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[jotheonah]

Vote Count 3.3

DatSwan (5): mcmcsalot, A Drowned Kernel, Joseph2302, e, Awaclus
A Drowned Kernel (3): Uncleeurope, Debatepro, EFHW
Joseph2302 (1): DatSwan

Not Voting (2): Robz888, jotheonah

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 3 ends at Sep. 27, 18:00 forum time. That is in 3 days and 4+ hours.

Well well well. The Swan lynch is not a fait accompli after all. Robz and I together could make ADK happen. What do you think about that Robz? Better or worse than Swan?

[Robz888]

Vote Count 3.3

DatSwan (5): mcmcsalot, A Drowned Kernel, Joseph2302, e, Awaclus
A Drowned Kernel (3): Uncleeurope, Debatepro, EFHW
Joseph2302 (1): DatSwan

Not Voting (2): Robz888, jotheonah

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 3 ends at Sep. 27, 18:00 forum time. That is in 3 days and 4+ hours.

Well well well. The Swan lynch is not a fait accompli after all. Robz and I together could make ADK happen. What do you think about that Robz? Better or worse than Swan?

ADK's wagon is townier to me than Swan's, and also I have been more suspicious of ADK than Swan, so yes I would do that.

[Robz888]

Here, I'll give you the option, Jo.

Vote: ADK

[A Drowned Kernel]

Very convenient

[jotheonah]

I guess the real duel was inside us all along.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I guess the real duel was inside us all along.

Please tell me you see how terrible the wagon on me is

[EFHW]

I'm not exactly staying off the DS wagon, but it would be the hammer if I voted him now, and we should let our IC do that, right?

Why?

[Robz888]

I guess the real duel was inside us all along.

Now if only we were doing this for a PR!

[Robz888]

I'm not exactly staying off the DS wagon, but it would be the hammer if I voted him now, and we should let our IC do that, right?

Why?

I meant I thought we should let our IC decide when this day ends.

[jotheonah]

What if DatSwan and ADK and Joseph and I are all town?

And what if we went back to vote: Robz?

[Debatepro]

Yep yep. Vote: Robz

[A Drowned Kernel]

I don't hate it

vote: robz

[Uncleeurope]

Vote: e

Ack, I missed.

[Robz888]

I was scum I would have just hammered Dat Swan...

[A Drowned Kernel]

I was scum I would have just hammered Dat Swan...

Eh, maybe. Is datswan town?

[EFHW]

Robz wagon looks scummy.

[EFHW]

Vote: e

Ack, I missed.

??

[Joseph2302]

I was scum I would have just hammered Dat Swan...

It would be a bit obvious though if you were scum and Swan is town

[Swowl]

Vote Count 3.3

DatSwan (5): mcmcsalot, A Drowned Kernel, Joseph2302, e, Awaclus
A Drowned Kernel (3): Uncleeurope, Debatepro, EFHW
Joseph2302 (1): DatSwan

Not Voting (2): Robz888, jotheonah


So what we are saying here is that there is all town in [Joth, Joseph, ADK, Swan, Joth]?

That would leave [MCMC, E, Awaclus] sitting on Swan.
And [Eddoe. Debate. EFHW] on ADK.
And Robz in the no vote camp.

So I would say there, the skum plan would be to spread out over me and ADK, which does isolate Robz a bit.

That being said, if we do not assume ADK is town (or any one person, tbf) I find the whole situation far more likely. I think that possibly because I voiced Robz as an alternate lynch candidate this could be getting played up to save ADK.

We have to start thinking about pools. If anyone flips red it is good.

The below is from POV (and assuming Joth and Joseph are Town):

If ADK flips red, then we have the off pool of 4, and the on pool of 3.
If ADK flips green, then we have the off pool of 3, and the on pool of 3.

If Robz flips red, then we have the on pool of 4 and the off pool of 3.
If Robz flips green, then we have the on pool of 4 and the off pool of 3.

So the lynch doesn't matter really in regards to isolating the choice for tomorrow. One way we isolate the off pool and the other the on pool.

So either it is all town, as presented, or someone is skum.
I would argue that the fact that I sat at L1 for so long without a lynch means that I have saturated skum on me and last one did not want to hammer.
OTOH I would argue that the fact that the ADK wagon took off and then we had 3 people that are not ADK jump on Robz, then ADK on robz, then another with a random off vote.... That all just seems like people jumped at the first possible reason to leave ADK. Now I have no idea who in the hell skum is out of that group if true, and today, honestly, IDC. But it leads to adk being skummy.

I think it is more likely ADK is skum and Robz is town, or ADK is skum and Robz is skum, than Robz is skum and ADK is town. And then if we add in the "we are all town concept" that is assuming like 6 people of 11 players are town... which is getting a little ridiculous.

I still want to lynch ADK.

And honestly, the fact that Robz is the target just argues more in that favor from my POV. Anyone from a town perspective that was on me, should of been more suspicious of the wagoners on ADK than the off-voter Robz. If they so easily thing ADK is town, and are willing to go Robz over both ADK and myself... why would the people on me be willing to leave me for Robz instead of trying to leave me for someone that was voting ADK?

Robz could be skum sure. But he could be town, and he could be skum with ADK. But I doubt that ADK is town.

[Swowl]

Vote Count - Swan

DatSwan (5): mcmcsalot, A Drowned Kernel, Joseph2302, e, Awaclus
A Drowned Kernel (5): Uncleeurope, Debatepro, EFHW, DatSwan, Robz888
Not Voting (2):  jotheonah

However, in favor of me and ADK both being town and Robz being skum, I could totally see him moving to ADK here and putting it on Joth the way he did. To the extent that I guess I think it is pretty unlikely that the both of them are skum.

[Awaclus]

Vote Count - Swan

DatSwan (5): mcmcsalot, A Drowned Kernel, Joseph2302, e, Awaclus
A Drowned Kernel (5): Uncleeurope, Debatepro, EFHW, DatSwan, Robz888
Not Voting (2):  jotheonah

Well, this is pretty obviously not the vote count.

[silverspawn]

Vote Count 3.4

DatSwan (4): mcmcsalot, Joseph2302, e, Awaclus
e (1): Uncleeurope
Robz888 (3): jotheonah, Debatepro, A Drowned Kernel
A Drowned Kernel (3): EFHW, DatSwan, Robz888

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 3 ends at Sep. 27, 18:00 forum time. That is in 2 days and 11+ hours.

[Debatepro]

Robz wagon looks scummy.

ADK, Robz, and Aweclus have been in my preferred Lynch pool all day. So it just scummy from ADK? In his defense he’s followed the IC on two consecutive votes.

I assumed you would support this vote because of this....

I'm going with vote: Robz because I felt like he was trying to sway town through social pressure more than logic.

[jotheonah]

I think we’ve generated a lot of info today and now we need a flip to make it useful.

I’m obviously paralyzed by indecision about which flip to go for, but I’m going to

vote: Datswan

Robz, the hammer is yours.

[EFHW]

Robz wagon looks scummy.

ADK, Robz, and Aweclus have been in my preferred Lynch pool all day. So it just scummy from ADK? In his defense he’s followed the IC on two consecutive votes.

I assumed you would support this vote because of this....

I'm going with vote: Robz because I felt like he was trying to sway town through social pressure more than logic.

You didn't join me when I voted Robz before,  and you weren't even voting then, iirc.