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[Joseph2302]

Has everyone posted? I feel like everyone has posted.

So I am going to work under the assumption that joth and Joseph are both town for now.

So under this assumption, what happens if we wait for the duel and agree to vote down duels that include either of us? Is that any good probabilistically?

Sounds reasonable to me

[2.71828.....]

We also need to talk about dueling at some point. I feel like we have enough information for a good lynch without a duel.

But I also think another PR would be very useful. While we regrettable outed our JK, the way it happened basically have us an IC in the process. Which is nice.

[2.71828.....]

Has everyone posted? I feel like everyone has posted.

So I am going to work under the assumption that joth and Joseph are both town for now.

So under this assumption, what happens if we wait for the duel and agree to vote down duels that include either of us? Is that any good probabilistically?

Sounds reasonable to me

I mean, I might be inclined to say yes to a duel if it were say, Joseph v swan.

A duel like that requires a majority vote to lynch the non-IC player.

Which is basically like a lynch we just get another PR out of it

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There only issue is it is a secret ballot lynch where scum can lie about where they voted.

And it doesn't give the non-IC player a real chance to defend themselves

[Debatepro]

There only issue is it is a secret ballot lynch where scum can lie about where they voted.

And it doesn't give the non-IC player a real chance to defend themselves

There he is, where have "you" been.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Has everyone posted? I feel like everyone has posted.

So I am going to work under the assumption that joth and Joseph are both town for now.

So under this assumption, what happens if we wait for the duel and agree to vote down duels that include either of us? Is that any good probabilistically?

At this point I would only vote for duels that included either of you if the other person was a duel where I would vote yes if the duel was me vs. them (there are such people)

[2.71828.....]

There only issue is it is a secret ballot lynch where scum can lie about where they voted.

And it doesn't give the non-IC player a real chance to defend themselves

There he is, where have "you" been.

I am confused. Are you calling me scum here? The "you" is throwing me off. Or are you calling me town? Or neither? I just don't know.

[Debatepro]

Has everyone posted? I feel like everyone has posted.

So I am going to work under the assumption that joth and Joseph are both town for now.

So under this assumption, what happens if we wait for the duel and agree to vote down duels that include either of us? Is that any good probabilistically?

At this point I would only vote for duels that included either of you if the other person was a duel where I would vote yes if the duel was me vs. them (there are such people)

and "them" are?

[Debatepro]

There only issue is it is a secret ballot lynch where scum can lie about where they voted.

And it doesn't give the non-IC player a real chance to defend themselves

There he is, where have "you" been.

I am confused. Are you calling me scum here? The "you" is throwing me off. Or are you calling me town? Or neither? I just don't know.

Your play has been unusual. It made me question if you were a player on teamtown. Today, I am seeing more posts in the null to town range, instead of the null to scum range.

[2.71828.....]

There only issue is it is a secret ballot lynch where scum can lie about where they voted.

And it doesn't give the non-IC player a real chance to defend themselves

There he is, where have "you" been.

I am confused. Are you calling me scum here? The "you" is throwing me off. Or are you calling me town? Or neither? I just don't know.

Your play has been unusual. It made me question if you were a player on teamtown. Today, I am seeing more posts in the null to town range, instead of the null to scum range.

Oh, ok. That's nice.

[jotheonah]

Has everyone posted? I feel like everyone has posted.

So I am going to work under the assumption that joth and Joseph are both town for now.

So under this assumption, what happens if we wait for the duel and agree to vote down duels that include either of us? Is that any good probabilistically?

At this point I would only vote for duels that included either of you if the other person was a duel where I would vote yes if the duel was me vs. them (there are such people)

This seems nice in theory but in practice it just gives you wiggle room to vote however you want.

[Robz888]

Joth and Joseph are town. I think it's okay to vote for a duel that includes one of them as long as the other person is someone we are okay lynching (to get the PR). If the duel is the two of them, then no.

If the duel is like, Joseph vs ADK or E, I might be fine with it.

I could easily see Swan being scum who does the kill, but I could ALSO see him as the NK, since it wouldn't fundamentally change the dynamics of the game much and the dynamics of the game (until this series of claims at least) was decent for scum.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Has everyone posted? I feel like everyone has posted.

So I am going to work under the assumption that joth and Joseph are both town for now.

So under this assumption, what happens if we wait for the duel and agree to vote down duels that include either of us? Is that any good probabilistically?

At this point I would only vote for duels that included either of you if the other person was a duel where I would vote yes if the duel was me vs. them (there are such people)

This seems nice in theory but in practice it just gives you wiggle room to vote however you want.

I will vote however I want, thanks

[A Drowned Kernel]

Has everyone posted? I feel like everyone has posted.

So I am going to work under the assumption that joth and Joseph are both town for now.

So under this assumption, what happens if we wait for the duel and agree to vote down duels that include either of us? Is that any good probabilistically?

At this point I would only vote for duels that included either of you if the other person was a duel where I would vote yes if the duel was me vs. them (there are such people)

and "them" are?

robz, mcmc, and e come to mind

[2.71828.....]

Joth and Joseph are town. I think it's okay to vote for a duel that includes one of them as long as the other person is someone we are okay lynching (to get the PR). If the duel is the two of them, then no.

If the duel is like, Joseph vs ADK or E, I might be fine with it.

I could easily see Swan being scum who does the kill, but I could ALSO see him as the NK, since it wouldn't fundamentally change the dynamics of the game much and the dynamics of the game (until this series of claims at least) was decent for scum.

I could easily see this post coming from scum!Robz

Basically dining up everything everyone has said and starting a few other obvious things. Plus the obvious OMGUS perspective of me being in his top 2 scum reads.

I can join team vote: Robz

[A Drowned Kernel]

Actually given that the duel yesterday was town vs. town, it's pretty unlikely that scum just didn't vote, so maybe take mcmc off that list

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Actually given that the duel yesterday was town vs. town, it's pretty unlikely that scum just didn't vote, so maybe take mcmc off that list

This doesn't make sense. I would think in a TvT scum votes yes. Abstaining doesn't make sense

[jotheonah]

Has everyone posted? I feel like everyone has posted.

So I am going to work under the assumption that joth and Joseph are both town for now.

So under this assumption, what happens if we wait for the duel and agree to vote down duels that include either of us? Is that any good probabilistically?

At this point I would only vote for duels that included either of you if the other person was a duel where I would vote yes if the duel was me vs. them (there are such people)

This seems nice in theory but in practice it just gives you wiggle room to vote however you want.

I will vote however I want, thanks

What I'm getting at is this post sounds like it's committing to some kind of vote but it basically isn't.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Actually given that the duel yesterday was town vs. town, it's pretty unlikely that scum just didn't vote, so maybe take mcmc off that list

This doesn't make sense. I would think in a TvT scum votes yes. Abstaining doesn't make sense

What I mean is, with a TvT duel, scum doesn't end the day not voting like mcmc did

[A Drowned Kernel]

What I'm getting at is this post sounds like it's committing to some kind of vote but it basically isn't.

I promise you that I will place some kind of vote on the duel

[2.71828.....]

Actually given that the duel yesterday was town vs. town, it's pretty unlikely that scum just didn't vote, so maybe take mcmc off that list

This doesn't make sense. I would think in a TvT scum votes yes. Abstaining doesn't make sense

What I mean is, with a TvT duel, scum doesn't end the day not voting like mcmc did

Ah, ok. I thought you were talking about voting yes or no on whether the duel was going to happen. That clarifies things.

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What I'm getting at is this post sounds like it's committing to some kind of vote but it basically isn't.

I promise you that I will place some kind of vote on the duel

Thanks, you are the best

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Vote Count 3.0

Not Voting (11): Uncleeurope, mcmcsalot, EFHW, Debatepro, Awaclus, jotheonah, DatSwan, Joseph2302, e, Robz888, A Drowned Kernel

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Phase 1 of day 3 ends at September 20, 15:00 Forum Time.

So we have another 24 hours (ish) before the duel starts.  I am still pretty much firmly in the "yes" camp, especially if it is in the non-IC group of people.

[2.71828.....]

Where did everyone go? You are all scum for leaving. I am here ready to react to everything.

Also, slightly D A MA

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