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[Glooble]

If we’re ignoring MiX’s set order I’ll go ahead and say I voted no. I’m townreading ADK, e hadn’t really said enough to give me a read one way or the other, and I honestly didn’t think the power role gained would have been particularly useful on night one, especially with information twisted as it would have been by the duel.

Can you expand on this idea? What were you thinking about exactly when you said this?

We have no idea what the roles are, except that there are four of them, and they probably don’t include jailkeeper. Still most roles are going to do nothing unless you hit scum (vig, roleblocker) or hit the NK target (doctor). The odds of getting that right night 1 in a town this big are extremely slim.

The one role that silver might include that would actually be good night 1 is cop, but even that is iffy with the scum player getting to know what the power would have been, since they can fake claim freely so you can’t really even trust the result until the cop is dead.

[MiX]

If we’re ignoring MiX’s set order I’ll go ahead and say I voted no. I’m townreading ADK, e hadn’t really said enough to give me a read one way or the other, and I honestly didn’t think the power role gained would have been particularly useful on night one, especially with information twisted as it would have been by the duel.

Can you expand on this idea? What were you thinking about exactly when you said this?

We have no idea what the roles are, except that there are four of them, and they probably don’t include jailkeeper. Still most roles are going to do nothing unless you hit scum (vig, roleblocker) or hit the NK target (doctor). The odds of getting that right night 1 in a town this big are extremely slim.

Why do we have to use them night 1?

[Glooble]

I don’t see DatSwan’s reasoning at all by the way, about Robz. “The wagon built fast so it must be on town” is one of those arguments that comes up every game and has almost no basis in reality.

PPE: It’s in the rules post. If we don’t use them might one they go away.

[Glooble]

...  [2] At the start of the following night, a random player is selected. If they are town, they receive one of a list of one-shot powers (randomly selected) which they may use that night. If they are mafia, they will be told what that power is but will not receive it. This list of powers is fixed pre-game by the mod but is not revealed. All powers in it are either standard or standard with minor variations. The same power will not be selected twice in the game (regardless of whether the player was town or mafia). The list consists of four entries. In the case that all four are used up throughout the game, the duel mechanic disappears and further days are 240 hours long.

Bolding mine.

[MiX]

...  [2] At the start of the following night, a random player is selected. If they are town, they receive one of a list of one-shot powers (randomly selected) which they may use that night. If they are mafia, they will be told what that power is but will not receive it. This list of powers is fixed pre-game by the mod but is not revealed. All powers in it are either standard or standard with minor variations. The same power will not be selected twice in the game (regardless of whether the player was town or mafia). The list consists of four entries. In the case that all four are used up throughout the game, the duel mechanic disappears and further days are 240 hours long.

Bolding mine.

Sure, but I only asked this here:

Finally, 1-shot abilities very often come to nothing, especially when you don't get to pick which night to use them.

I haven't seen anyone address this: do the one-shot PRs need to be used the night they're gained?

How did you deduce that you couldn't use them at any other night?

Vote: Glooble

[Glooble]

MiX, that’s been I. The set-up post the whole time.

[Glooble]

*in

[MiX]

MiX, that’s been in the set-up post the whole time.

Fine, but it's really not clear just from reading it. Unless it is and I can't read?

[Glooble]

It was completely clear to me. If you could use the power for the rest of the game he would have said that.

[MiX]

Vote: Debatepro

[MiX]

MiX: doesn’t want to lynch e by default

Also MiX: wants to lynch e the regular way instead

Well then I guess ADK's also scum for doing the same thing... I would rather have a real day than a random lynch (E loses the duel everytime anyway) and a one-shot PR.

Meh. That's such a non-post.

I wasn’t calling you scummy for it. Sorry if it came off that way. I was just being flip.

What was this about Glooble?

Can you tell I'm looking for reasons to scumread you?

[MiX]

If we’re ignoring MiX’s set order I’ll go ahead and say I voted no. I’m townreading ADK, e hadn’t really said enough to give me a read one way or the other, and I honestly didn’t think the power role gained would have been particularly useful on night one, especially with information twisted as it would have been by the duel.

Safe vote explanation, set up by his prior post.

What prior post?

Well then I guess both questions in that post were ignored so I need to repost them. That's what I get for doing things between a twin fight.

[Glooble]

MiX: doesn’t want to lynch e by default

Also MiX: wants to lynch e the regular way instead

Well then I guess ADK's also scum for doing the same thing... I would rather have a real day than a random lynch (E loses the duel everytime anyway) and a one-shot PR.

Meh. That's such a non-post.

I wasn’t calling you scummy for it. Sorry if it came off that way. I was just being flip.

What was this about Glooble?

Can you tell I'm looking for reasons to scumread you?

It was about I made a joke, you took it as an accusation, I didn’t mean it as one so I set the record straight.

[MiX]

Glooble (1): jotheonah
jotheonah (1): Glooble

Can both of you (especially Glooble) explain what this is supposed to mean to everyone else?

This is my way of asking "why is he the scummiest player" to both of you.

[Glooble]

Glooble (1): jotheonah
jotheonah (1): Glooble

Can both of you (especially Glooble) explain what this is supposed to mean to everyone else?

This is my way of asking "why is he the scummiest player" to both of you.

I still think joth’s more than likely scum. But you’re right, it’s not a useful place to have my vote right now.

I’m gonna join this Robz train. He’s a very good joth partner candidate.

vote: Robz

[silverspawn]

I should be voting for pubby.

The program recognizes the name as whatever is bolded and after the colon and whitespace of a vote. Since you put the smiley inside of the bolded tags, you voted for "pubby ", which is not a valid nickname for pubby. Please vote again.

[Awaclus]

I should be voting for pubby.

The program recognizes the name as whatever is bolded and after the colon and whitespace of a vote. Since you put the smiley inside of the bolded tags, you voted for "pubby ", which is not a valid nickname for pubby. Please vote again.

That's stupid.

Vote: pubby

[MiX]

Glooble (1): jotheonah
jotheonah (1): Glooble

Can both of you (especially Glooble) explain what this is supposed to mean to everyone else?

This is my way of asking "why is he the scummiest player" to both of you.

I still think joth’s more than likely scum.

Why? And I ask this less because I want to sheep you but more because I want to direct the lynch towards you and I'll need good arguments for that. But I do want to sheep, just not today.

[EFHW]

...  [2] At the start of the following night, a random player is selected. If they are town, they receive one of a list of one-shot powers (randomly selected) which they may use that night. If they are mafia, they will be told what that power is but will not receive it. This list of powers is fixed pre-game by the mod but is not revealed. All powers in it are either standard or standard with minor variations. The same power will not be selected twice in the game (regardless of whether the player was town or mafia). The list consists of four entries. In the case that all four are used up throughout the game, the duel mechanic disappears and further days are 240 hours long.

Bolding mine.

Sure, but I only asked this here:

Finally, 1-shot abilities very often come to nothing, especially when you don't get to pick which night to use them.

I haven't seen anyone address this: do the one-shot PRs need to be used the night they're gained?

How did you deduce that you couldn't use them at any other night?

Vote: Glooble

Why are you voting Glooble over this but not me? I don't understand this tunneling of Glooble. 

[EFHW]

Unless you are actually trying to clear him?

[MiX]

...  [2] At the start of the following night, a random player is selected. If they are town, they receive one of a list of one-shot powers (randomly selected) which they may use that night. If they are mafia, they will be told what that power is but will not receive it. This list of powers is fixed pre-game by the mod but is not revealed. All powers in it are either standard or standard with minor variations. The same power will not be selected twice in the game (regardless of whether the player was town or mafia). The list consists of four entries. In the case that all four are used up throughout the game, the duel mechanic disappears and further days are 240 hours long.

Bolding mine.

Sure, but I only asked this here:

Finally, 1-shot abilities very often come to nothing, especially when you don't get to pick which night to use them.

I haven't seen anyone address this: do the one-shot PRs need to be used the night they're gained?

How did you deduce that you couldn't use them at any other night?

Vote: Glooble

Why are you voting Glooble over this but not me? I don't understand this tunneling of Glooble. 

I asked myself the very same question when I voted. The tunnel's...pretty hard here.

I just want to be right on Glooble before I move onto Robz/pubby/Debatepro (or something, those seem like the lynches for today).

Unless you are actually trying to clear him?

Uuuuuh I'm trying to remove the tunnel, idk if that's trying to clear Glooble.

[EFHW]

Can we have a sub for 0Ix?

[jotheonah]

vote: debatepro

[MiX]

Look at the current wagons:

Robz888 (5): e, EFHW, Debatepro, pubby, Glooble
Debatepro (4): A Drowned Kernel, DatSwan, MiX, jotheonah
pubby (4): mcmcsalot, Robz888, Joseph2302, Awaclus

Man, if the twin fight doesn't have scum in it...I'll wake up from the dream.

[EFHW]

Look at the current wagons:

Robz888 (5): e, EFHW, Debatepro, pubby, Glooble
Debatepro (4): A Drowned Kernel, DatSwan, MiX, jotheonah
pubby (4): mcmcsalot, Robz888, Joseph2302, Awaclus

Man, if the twin fight doesn't have scum in it...I'll wake up from the dream.

What? We're all consolidated into 3 wagons. Obviously some of the voters are scum. I don't see how you draw inferences about anybody from this vote count.