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[Glooble]

Also if the scum nightkills the traitor the traitor doesn't die and joins the QT instead.

[EFHW]

I was thinking that we could kill actual scum first so scum can NK the traitor. Sadly, they can just dodge it with tge neighborhood. That reminds me, EFHW is town for saying what ash was talking about.

So, since scum won't realistically NK the traitor, we can safely assume the third-party's reporter or survivor. If survivor, they're town (since they could just not bus), so let's assume the worst, which is reporter. I found this in the setup:

"- Traitor does not constitute a power role"

Which means we don't want to leave them as the last scum lynch. Now we need to know this:

Does Neighbor count as a power role for Reporter?

If yes, the reporter kinda lost already...and we let ash live. Otherwise, we take out ash and pray the remaining scum are PRs. There's also the possibility traitor's PR, but I would say that's slim (only if they got RB).

For some reason I can't make any sense of most of this post.

[MiX]

Also if the scum nightkills the traitor the traitor doesn't die and joins the QT instead.

That still lets us enter normal LyLo, which is our win condition.


Sorry EFHW, I'll explain after faust answers my question. Mostly I thought we shouldn't kill traitor first, but then I realize we should.

[faust]

Does Neighbor count as a power role for Reporter?

Yes.

[Swowl]

Mix - i posted the same question in the hood thread last night . Honestly i am surprised at the answer.


Ashes/EFHW - I posted something in our hood thread within the minute that Faust locked thread and re opened game.

I instantly deleted it.

I am not under any penalty that i am aware of.

[Swowl]

Hmmm.

So let's say gkrieg is scum. There is, at most, one scum in the neighborhood (probably ash, but we can't say that definitively.) That leaves two more scum among {Glooble, MiX, pubby, pingpongsam}. In other words, if gkrieg is scum, someone is already bussing.

It's not 2 more scum, it's just 1. Clearly the third party's being town here. Of those 5, pps is the only one who didn't vote gkrieg. So if he's scum, he's not bussing.

Also, recall that traitor doesn't always know scum, although I believe everyone knew e was scum.

I meant to say 1. Sorry.

I don't get what's going on with numbers here. DatSwan made a number-of-scum error in the qt as well. There are 4 scum, we found 1, there are 3 more to catch. Right? Glooble assumed 1 in neighborhood, that leaves 2 more in the rest of you.

Obviously i can’t quote it, but it wasn’t a error it was a typo. Any time i talked about “2skum” i meant 2 mafia

[MiX]

Okay then I know precisely what is going to happen this game.

Vote: gkrieg

[MiX]

Everyone, including scum, should be voting on gkrieg as fast as possible, by the way. It's the correct move.

[Glooble]

I’m so confused.

[Glooble]

Why does speed matter?

[MiX]

Why does speed matter?

I will explain tomorrow. Maybe.

[MiX]

Because I'm not Swan, but aspire to be like him, I will give you a hint: it's a consequence of "neighbors are power roles". And like Swan's hints, I doubt you'll understand with just that.

[Glooble]

vote: gkrieg

[Glooble]

But only because I was going to anyway. I think I understand what you’re getting at, and If I’m right I’m not sure it works how you think it does. But I want to lynch gkrieg anyway.

[Glooble]

unvote

If I’m right about MiX’s plan it loses us the game.

MiX, you know lynching the third party is just as bad as lynching town, right?

[MiX]

unvote

If I’m right about MiX’s plan it loses us the game.

MiX, you know lynching the third party is just as bad as lynching town, right?

Third party? My plan goes deeper. It goes DEEP. Trust me Glooble, can gkrieg be anything but scum? No. So we lynch them.

[Glooble]

Good enough for me.

vote: gkrieg

[EFHW]

Hmmm.

So let's say gkrieg is scum. There is, at most, one scum in the neighborhood (probably ash, but we can't say that definitively.) That leaves two more scum among {Glooble, MiX, pubby, pingpongsam}. In other words, if gkrieg is scum, someone is already bussing.

It's not 2 more scum, it's just 1. Clearly the third party's being town here. Of those 5, pps is the only one who didn't vote gkrieg. So if he's scum, he's not bussing.

Also, recall that traitor doesn't always know scum, although I believe everyone knew e was scum.

I meant to say 1. Sorry.

I don't get what's going on with numbers here. DatSwan made a number-of-scum error in the qt as well. There are 4 scum, we found 1, there are 3 more to catch. Right? Glooble assumed 1 in neighborhood, that leaves 2 more in the rest of you.

Obviously i can’t quote it, but it wasn’t a error it was a typo. Any time i talked about “2skum” i meant 2 mafia

But we need to catch 3 more, not two more.

[EFHW]

MiX,  is there anything more you can say about your idea?

[Swowl]

I's like to hear from DatSwan and EFHW about their feelings vis a vis ash. Especially cause it sounds like something went down in the neighborhood last night.

I would like to keep my opinions of ash/EFHW to myself for now.
I still think there is no value in lynching within the hood and i don’t want to take away focus.

There are either 2/5 or 3/5 skum in the non - Hood pool.
There are either 0/3 or 1/3 skum in the hood.

I could think one of ashes/EFHW are skum, and i would still say we lynch outside the hood.

[gkrieg13]

If there is a survivor, you should claim now and you can win with scum.

If there is a second traitor, you should have claimed a long time ago.

If there is a reporter, we can help you win by helping you lynch and kill neighbors. That is basicallythe only way you win at this point is by cooperating with scum. If we no lynch today, we will kill a town neighbor. Then help us lynch the scum neighbor, then we will kill the other town neighbor. There are no other PRs. If we do this plan, you win and scum wins.

If you want me to lay out the plan better, I can.

[Swowl]

did GK just claim skum? Am I missing something?

[Glooble]

Looks like it to me.

[EFHW]

vote: gkrieg

[EFHW]

ash -- time to hammer!