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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #550 on: June 12, 2019, 11:15:05 am »

Eddy is a weird kill choice, given his role in the debatepro lynch. I would have kept him around as a good mislynch. Did he have any strong scumreads? We should look closely at them...

So this means probably no SK, as one kill is from the neighborhood and the other is from scum. Unless the SK got blocked somehow or happened to target the same person as one of the others.
Which third party role would you pick?

Probably the serial killer.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #551 on: June 12, 2019, 11:16:28 am »

Not sure how I feel about neighborhood claiming, but definitely if there are 4 neighbors I think they should claim, as four neighbors definitely means scum is in the neighborhood.

More accurately, it means non-town is in the neighhborhood. Three town and a Bodyguarded Neighbor Survivor third party is also possible.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #552 on: June 12, 2019, 11:18:19 am »

Not sure how I feel about neighborhood claiming, but definitely if there are 4 neighbors I think they should claim, as four neighbors definitely means scum is in the neighborhood.

More accurately, it means non-town is in the neighhborhood. Three town and a Bodyguarded Neighbor Survivor third party is also possible.

Oh wait, no it's not. Removes Neighbor from town list.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #553 on: June 12, 2019, 11:18:37 am »

Not sure how I feel about neighborhood claiming, but definitely if there are 4 neighbors I think they should claim, as four neighbors definitely means scum is in the neighborhood.

More accurately, it means non-town is in the neighhborhood. Three town and a Bodyguarded Neighbor Survivor third party is also possible.

Is it? Look closer.

So this means probably no SK, as one kill is from the neighborhood and the other is from scum. Unless the SK got blocked somehow or happened to target the same person as one of the others.
Which third party role would you pick?

Such a fun question: I would be super tempted to pick SK as well, but hopefully I wouldn't given the reputation I got last time...

PPE: There you go.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #554 on: June 12, 2019, 11:20:00 am »

So I agree, a 4-person neighborhood should claim here. Would love a 1/4 chance of hitting scum.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #555 on: June 12, 2019, 11:20:29 am »

Eddy is a weird kill choice, given his role in the debatepro lynch. I would have kept him around as a good mislynch. Did he have any strong scumreads? We should look closely at them...


e. He really wanted to lynch e. But I'm reasonably sure Eddie was the vig kill and ADK was the scum kill.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #556 on: June 12, 2019, 11:22:10 am »

So I agree, a 4-person neighborhood should claim here. Would love a 1/4 chance of hitting scum.

We have higher chances outsider this group. This is a fun setup.

Eddy is a weird kill choice, given his role in the debatepro lynch. I would have kept him around as a good mislynch. Did he have any strong scumreads? We should look closely at them...


e. He really wanted to lynch e. But I'm reasonably sure Eddie was the vig kill and ADK was the scum kill.

I disagree completely, I think it's almost obvious it's the contrary.

Vote: Glooble because why not.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #557 on: June 12, 2019, 11:24:12 am »

So I agree, a 4-person neighborhood should claim here. Would love a 1/4 chance of hitting scum.

We have higher chances outsider this group. This is a fun setup.


True, but it still gives us a good split of groups we can think about.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #558 on: June 12, 2019, 11:25:10 am »

So I agree, a 4-person neighborhood should claim here. Would love a 1/4 chance of hitting scum.

We have higher chances outsider this group. This is a fun setup.

Eddy is a weird kill choice, given his role in the debatepro lynch. I would have kept him around as a good mislynch. Did he have any strong scumreads? We should look closely at them...


e. He really wanted to lynch e. But I'm reasonably sure Eddie was the vig kill and ADK was the scum kill.

I disagree completely, I think it's almost obvious it's the contrary.

Vote: Glooble because why not.

Haha, didn't even read the second half of the quote. Why do you think Eddie was killed by scum? His D1 EoD is very scummy.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #559 on: June 12, 2019, 11:25:52 am »

So I agree, a 4-person neighborhood should claim here. Would love a 1/4 chance of hitting scum.

We have higher chances outsider this group. This is a fun setup.

Eddy is a weird kill choice, given his role in the debatepro lynch. I would have kept him around as a good mislynch. Did he have any strong scumreads? We should look closely at them...


e. He really wanted to lynch e. But I'm reasonably sure Eddie was the vig kill and ADK was the scum kill.

I disagree completely, I think it's almost obvious it's the contrary.

Vote: Glooble because why not.

Why do you think the contrary is obvious?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #560 on: June 12, 2019, 11:27:10 am »

So I agree, a 4-person neighborhood should claim here. Would love a 1/4 chance of hitting scum.

We have higher chances outsider this group. This is a fun setup.


True, but it still gives us a good split of groups we can think about.

Agreed, it's a really good thing to reveal, but we should lynch outside of it.

PPE 2: Because I think Uncle was very very very very towny.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #561 on: June 12, 2019, 11:27:32 am »

I think I asked Glooble about joth, but what does joth think about Glooble this game?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #562 on: June 12, 2019, 11:32:36 am »


PPE 2: Because I think Uncle was very very very very towny.

And you don't think ADK was?

Now that I think about it, I don't think anyone raised much suspicion on either of them Day 1. I'd have to read back to be sure.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #563 on: June 12, 2019, 11:35:12 am »

Eddy is a weird kill choice, given his role in the debatepro lynch. I would have kept him around as a good mislynch. Did he have any strong scumreads? We should look closely at them...


FOS: joth.

ADK's last post was this:

I think we should take a serious look at joth tomorrow

Trying to shift discussion to the *other* nightkill's scumreads when one nightkill's top scumread is very obviously you is hella suspicious.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #564 on: June 12, 2019, 11:36:34 am »


PPE 2: Because I think Uncle was very very very very towny.

And you don't think ADK was?

Now that I think about it, I don't think anyone raised much suspicion on either of them Day 1. I'd have to read back to be sure.

ADK is also a weird read, but all we know there's only 1 neighbor and they were scumreading ADK. But okay I suppose there's people who didn't like Uncle's D1 EoD so both are possible. If that's true then it's sad...

Okay both are possible but I have to agree that it makes more sense that ADK was the NK.

PPE: I think it's both Glooble and joth here.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #565 on: June 12, 2019, 11:37:55 am »

I think I asked Glooble about joth, but what does joth think about Glooble this game?

I think he's towny. Or I did until the post he just made.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #566 on: June 12, 2019, 11:39:02 am »

Eddy is a weird kill choice, given his role in the debatepro lynch. I would have kept him around as a good mislynch. Did he have any strong scumreads? We should look closely at them...


FOS: joth.

ADK's last post was this:

I think we should take a serious look at joth tomorrow

Trying to shift discussion to the *other* nightkill's scumreads when one nightkill's top scumread is very obviously you is hella suspicious.

I assumed someone would bring that up eventually, but I thought bringing up proactively would be read as scummy. Guess it's a damned-if-you-do-damned-if-you-don't kind of a thing? Anyway, ADK was town and also wrong about me. A thing that happens all the time.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #567 on: June 12, 2019, 11:39:56 am »

The other benefit of a neighborclaim is that they can tell us which kill was whose.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #568 on: June 12, 2019, 11:41:21 am »

I think I asked Glooble about joth, but what does joth think about Glooble this game?

I think he's towny. Or I did until the post he just made.


What exactly was it about that post that changed your read on me?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #569 on: June 12, 2019, 11:42:41 am »

I think I asked Glooble about joth, but what does joth think about Glooble this game?

I think he's towny. Or I did until the post he just made.


What exactly was it about that post that changed your read on me?

Nothing. It was a joke. I still think you're town. But that thing you said about switching focus was quite a stretch.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #570 on: June 12, 2019, 11:44:13 am »

Well, let’s try it.

vote: MiX

Yeah, there’s not enough time Eddie. Let’s go back to vote: debate

This was a waste of time that made you not look like the first person on board debate's wagon.

The rest of this day will be me switching votes between Glooble and joth.

Vote: joth
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #571 on: June 12, 2019, 11:46:11 am »

Well, let’s try it.

vote: MiX

Yeah, there’s not enough time Eddie. Let’s go back to vote: debate

This was a waste of time that made you not look like the first person on board debate's wagon.

The rest of this day will be me switching votes between Glooble and joth.

Vote: joth

That was me sincerely trying to get you lynched, but everybody was asleep and it almost cost us the debate lynch. But I guess if we're gonna do this we might as well do this.

vote: MiX
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #572 on: June 12, 2019, 11:46:29 am »


PPE: I think it's both Glooble and joth here.

Interesting, why?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 1)
« Reply #573 on: June 12, 2019, 11:47:01 am »

I feel like there's a good chance MiX came into the scum QT with "my meta is basically endlessly fighting with joth even when we're both town, so I'm gonna hard commit to that"
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #574 on: June 12, 2019, 11:47:29 am »

Well, let’s try it.

vote: MiX

Yeah, there’s not enough time Eddie. Let’s go back to vote: debate

This was a waste of time that made you not look like the first person on board debate's wagon.

The rest of this day will be me switching votes between Glooble and joth.

Vote: joth

That was me sincerely trying to get you lynched, but everybody was asleep and it almost cost us the debate lynch. But I guess if we're gonna do this we might as well do this.

vote: MiX

This is a scummy vote.
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