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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #425 on: June 09, 2019, 07:08:29 pm »

I refuse to unvote pubby until they at least try to do something. If they're this quick to give up then we might as well lynch them.

Leaving for the night, so while I sleep Vote: pubby. Okay, we're not lynching joth, nor e, nor EFHW, nor gkrieg...I think the only other person I would lynch is Glooble?

Have fun guys!

Vote: pubby so it's more visible
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #426 on: June 09, 2019, 07:09:55 pm »

I prefer debate, but if that proves to be a non starter, I'll consolidate elsewhere in time to be useful. I can't be on at deadline.

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #427 on: June 09, 2019, 07:12:15 pm »

I can be on at deadline.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #428 on: June 09, 2019, 07:15:11 pm »

I'll be on later this evening as well as at deadline. My only concern with the pubby wagon is that it's so lazy, but I'll vote there if necessary to get a lynch
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #429 on: June 09, 2019, 07:16:45 pm »

I just saw pubby's post up there. It makes me want to vote him a lot less.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #430 on: June 09, 2019, 07:22:22 pm »

I just saw pubby's post up there. It makes me want to vote him a lot less.

Why? Curious, cause it made me want to vote him more.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #431 on: June 09, 2019, 07:28:02 pm »


So when I flip town, you will have waited all this time on me.

Classic scum phrasing for real though.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #432 on: June 09, 2019, 07:32:57 pm »

I guess I could switch to pubby. If we’re doomed to have a crappy consensus lynch, it may as well be not me.

It’s not really clear to me how much my head is on the proverbial block though. Seems like not very much, but if there’s an “oh crap it’s deadline let’s pile on the largest wagon” moment, it feels like that could hit me.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #433 on: June 09, 2019, 07:44:23 pm »

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #434 on: June 09, 2019, 07:45:48 pm »

I just saw pubby's post up there. It makes me want to vote him a lot less.

Why? Curious, cause it made me want to vote him more.

He's sticking to his guns, when I would expect scum to either go completely silent or backpedal.

They're kind of crappy guns, but he's sticking to them
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #435 on: June 09, 2019, 07:57:27 pm »

I just saw pubby's post up there. It makes me want to vote him a lot less.

Why? Curious, cause it made me want to vote him more.

He's sticking to his guns, when I would expect scum to either go completely silent or backpedal.

They're kind of crappy guns, but he's sticking to them

If pubby had said all of the things he's been saying and than also laid out an actual case on joth, I'd probably be townreading him. But this is his supposedly air-tight, "not likely to move" case:

@pubby, explain your vote and I'll probably sheep you.
I think joth is trying harder than anyone else to appear innocent. I don't believe him when he says he's not "into" this game - I mean, he had opinions about voting blocs and strategy and even tallied up the votes for everyone.

But if he is town, I won't feel terrible if he's lynched. Because again, I'd rather lynch the guy who's not feeling the game than a player more involved.

That does not seem to me like a case that's worth plopping down with a week to deadline and then calling it a day.

If pubby is scumreading joth so strongly, why isn't he trying to get others to vote for him? Why isn't he engaging with joth and trying to get him to slip up? If he's a towny who really thinks joth is scum, I think he'd be working to get joth lynched.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #436 on: June 09, 2019, 08:04:05 pm »

I just saw pubby's post up there. It makes me want to vote him a lot less.

Why? Curious, cause it made me want to vote him more.

He's sticking to his guns, when I would expect scum to either go completely silent or backpedal.

They're kind of crappy guns, but he's sticking to them

If pubby had said all of the things he's been saying and than also laid out an actual case on joth, I'd probably be townreading him. But this is his supposedly air-tight, "not likely to move" case:

@pubby, explain your vote and I'll probably sheep you.
I think joth is trying harder than anyone else to appear innocent. I don't believe him when he says he's not "into" this game - I mean, he had opinions about voting blocs and strategy and even tallied up the votes for everyone.

But if he is town, I won't feel terrible if he's lynched. Because again, I'd rather lynch the guy who's not feeling the game than a player more involved.

That does not seem to me like a case that's worth plopping down with a week to deadline and then calling it a day.

If pubby is scumreading joth so strongly, why isn't he trying to get others to vote for him? Why isn't he engaging with joth and trying to get him to slip up? If he's a towny who really thinks joth is scum, I think he'd be working to get joth lynched.

I dunno. I guess the way that I'm reading pubby is that there's a lot of players in this game, it's easy to feel overwhelmed, and he found a semi-decent read and plopped himself there.

Maybe I'm protecting too much of my own feelings onto another player, but I just don't seem the scum narrative for pubby's play
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #437 on: June 09, 2019, 08:42:17 pm »

I refuse to unvote pubby until they at least try to do something. If they're this quick to give up then we might as well lynch them.

Reasonable. Though you moving off of pubby would leave only the joth wagon, and that’s a wagon I’m unlikely to join.

Debatepro, Eddie. You’re each on your own little wagons. Are any of the slightly larger wagons appealing to you?

Nope.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #438 on: June 09, 2019, 09:56:29 pm »

I don't like the pubby lynch. And Debate has been scummy, imo. The case against silver was over the top, as they say, and he feels aggressive or amped up to me. MiX was right about the reads list, too, even if he was a bit heavy handed in how he pointed out that it actually said very little.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #439 on: June 09, 2019, 09:57:15 pm »

vote count please
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #440 on: June 09, 2019, 09:57:59 pm »

I'm around for the next 30-50 minutes or so.  Any particular passages to re-read that would be useful?  I have "read" up to now, mostly skimming long posts and looking for votes and such.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #441 on: June 09, 2019, 10:03:27 pm »

ISO debate and tell us what you think.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #442 on: June 09, 2019, 10:10:01 pm »

I just saw pubby's post up there. It makes me want to vote him a lot less.

Why? Curious, cause it made me want to vote him more.

He's sticking to his guns, when I would expect scum to either go completely silent or backpedal.

They're kind of crappy guns, but he's sticking to them

If pubby had said all of the things he's been saying and than also laid out an actual case on joth, I'd probably be townreading him. But this is his supposedly air-tight, "not likely to move" case:

@pubby, explain your vote and I'll probably sheep you.
I think joth is trying harder than anyone else to appear innocent. I don't believe him when he says he's not "into" this game - I mean, he had opinions about voting blocs and strategy and even tallied up the votes for everyone.

But if he is town, I won't feel terrible if he's lynched. Because again, I'd rather lynch the guy who's not feeling the game than a player more involved.

That does not seem to me like a case that's worth plopping down with a week to deadline and then calling it a day.

If pubby is scumreading joth so strongly, why isn't he trying to get others to vote for him? Why isn't he engaging with joth and trying to get him to slip up? If he's a towny who really thinks joth is scum, I think he'd be working to get joth lynched.

I dunno. I guess the way that I'm reading pubby is that there's a lot of players in this game, it's easy to feel overwhelmed, and he found a semi-decent read and plopped himself there.

Maybe I'm protecting too much of my own feelings onto another player, but I just don't seem the scum narrative for pubby's play

If that’s where he is, then his ragging on me for saying I can’t get into the game comes off a bit hypocritical IMO.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #443 on: June 09, 2019, 10:14:26 pm »

ISO debate and tell us what you think.

Town or Traitor.

A majority of their posts are questions (either about something or to someone), which is very faust-ian.  When faust does it, it's alignment-null, but unclear here.

I'm taking into consideration that I don't know debatepro at all (we may have played in a game together, but I honestly don't know at this point without looking).  There's a mention that they are an adult, has debate experience.  The posts that aren't questions focus on the semantics of posts (I think I'm using semantics correctly here) as much or more than the content of posts, which feels debate-y to me.

There's also the "I'm town so it's your fault if you lynch me" warning in there that someone flagged as an auto-scum-response.

Basically, I think the traitor question reads like an "I'm the traitor you guys!" post from a new-ish player trying to figure out how to play the role (incorrectly).  So traitor is on the table.

I don't see as much scumminess in the rest of the posts as compared to others, but maybe me not being directly involved in the quotes helps me there.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #444 on: June 09, 2019, 10:21:07 pm »

I ISOed EFHW too, since she responded to me.

Strong town read.  Nothing out of place from what I would expect from town!EFHW.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #445 on: June 09, 2019, 10:55:08 pm »

Just got settled in a hotel room. I can probably be around at deadline but I will be relatively ill informed, or whatever that means for D1. I’m always good for a hammer vote, though, those are fun. So count me in for hammering the popular vote if need be. Maybe ash and I can race for old times’ sake.

Hopefully night lasts until I get back home and I can actually give this game some attention with some D2 information to work with.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #446 on: June 10, 2019, 12:24:48 am »

ISO debate and tell us what you think.

Town or traitor

Basically, I think the traitor question reads like an "I'm the traitor you guys!" post from a new-ish player trying to figure out how to play the role (incorrectly).  So traitor is on the table.

I don't see as much scumminess in the rest of the posts as compared to others, but maybe me not being directly involved in the quotes helps me there.

If I was assigned some role and any role, you can bet your ass I would read and research everything I could about it, like looking for other games it was deployed, before asking how it worked. It doesn’t do me any good to tip my hand. If you think it’s signaling, I wasn’t the one who started the discussion about traitor. Probably doesn’t matter, SS thinks it was towny-ish.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #447 on: June 10, 2019, 01:23:24 am »

Vote: pubby

Reason: I certainly have given SS enough reasons to vote for me, yet he is sticking with his pubby vote. Given how much pubby has said and contributed to the game, I'm not sure scum!ss would be sticking with a pubby vote, unless they suspect a pr.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #448 on: June 10, 2019, 01:29:44 am »

vote count please

Vote count 1.81 (unofficial)

MiX (1): pingpongsam
DatSwan (1): 2.71828.....
jotheonah (2): pubby, A Drowned Kernel
2.71828..... (1): Uncleeurope
pubby (6): silverspawn, mcmcsalot, Glooble, MiX, gkrieg13, Debatepro,
Debatepro (2): jotheonah, EFHW

Not Voting (2): DatSwan, ashersky

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #449 on: June 10, 2019, 02:29:54 am »

Have finally arrived back at home. Catching up now.

Will be around for a bit and then back for DL.
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