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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #400 on: June 09, 2019, 08:17:05 am »

I still have no clue what EFHW question you're talking about. Nothing I asked was based on anything she said.
I asked mcmc how he thought the voting bloc thing would work. You also did that, but Debate missed your post, so he thought you were complaining that my post didn't get answered.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #401 on: June 09, 2019, 08:17:36 am »

@ss: I don't know if this affects your debatepro read or not, but it might be relevant information: I looked back at his first scum on the other site, and he did make a point to ask a question about the mechanics of the scum's kill in the main thread, rather than asking his teammates in scum's daychat

I'm null on debate at the moment but it's worth pointing out

What don't you like about a gkrieg lynch?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #402 on: June 09, 2019, 08:18:34 am »

Left out the space. vote: pubby. Normally I hate lurker lynches but given how the game basically died for like two days despite being a 15-person game I’m guessing we got some scum lurkers.
I don't follow your logic here.

I’m saying we have a lot of... let’s not saying lurkers, but not-super-active player. Enough that there’s almost certainly some scum there. And lynching a player who 1. Isn’t  really contributing and 2. We won’t have much info on going into future days is not the worst idea.

I’d rather lynch someone who’s acting scummy, but so far no one has really crossed that threshold for me.

Also I really want pubby to explain why he said he was unlikely to move his vote from joth.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #403 on: June 09, 2019, 08:29:41 am »

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vote: debate. Even if he did appropriate my question,  that's not very scummy.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #404 on: June 09, 2019, 08:44:38 am »

@ss: I don't know if this affects your debatepro read or not, but it might be relevant information: I looked back at his first scum on the other site, and he did make a point to ask a question about the mechanics of the scum's kill in the main thread, rather than asking his teammates in scum's daychat

I'm null on debate at the moment but it's worth pointing out

What don't you like about a gkrieg lynch?

Yeah, that makes me want to lynch him quite a bit more. Still not going to unvote pubby until they at least show up, though.

I'm townreading gkrieg, partially based on gut and partially based on something I don't really want to disclose.

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #405 on: June 09, 2019, 09:15:07 am »

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #406 on: June 09, 2019, 10:07:50 am »

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SS isn’t this flawed as Town

vote: debate. Even if he did appropriate my question,  that's not very scummy.

The evidence is below.

SS continues to pester (98 & 315) MCMC about how serious was he about the block plan, but MCMC already said it, not once but twice (253 & 271). They MCMC & SS where functionally taking about MiX being scummy about lying in that same timeframe (MCMC-258 & SS-261).

When confronted with this fact (MiX 317), SS says that wasn't his question (yes it was) and morphs the question into EFHWs question (260). Why is SS push MCMC when MCMC answered the question twice while SS was on? Why does SS ask EFHW's question, partners?


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SS (320) - Not quite answer, want to know what would they have done if people went along?

MiX (317) - they did in 271.

SS (315) - 2 days later - Please answer my ?

SS (276) 1009am - dialog mix policy vote, don’t lie or not keep promises as Town.

MCMC (275) 1006am - answers db8’s question about how scum hunting can be non-protown

MCMC (271) 956am - had some town reads, block could have led to interesting interactions for future examination

SS (261) 911am - Vote MiX for “there is no reason for me to follow through with my word”

EFHW (260) 908am - How did you imagine the plan working?

MCMC (258) 854am - Questions MiX for “there is no reason for me to follow through with my word”

MCMC (253) 758am - Vote: EFHW & Serious

SS (98) - how serious was your block?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #407 on: June 09, 2019, 10:27:01 am »

debatepro, what are you actually imagining is happening here? Even if you disagree with me that the question wasn't answered, how could that possibly be interesting enough to talk so much about?

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #408 on: June 09, 2019, 11:42:09 am »

Also I really want pubby to explain why he said he was unlikely to move his vote from joth.
Dunno what's confusing about this. Joth was and is my strongest scumread by large enough margin to make up my mind. I don't see the point in second-guessing myself or muddying up the thread with meme votes. My vote remains.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #409 on: June 09, 2019, 11:58:50 am »

Between debate and pubby I definitely would vote pubby. Let me find a vote count
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #410 on: June 09, 2019, 12:01:34 pm »

Vote Count 1.8

MiX (1): pingpongsam
DatSwan (2): 2.71828....., gkrieg13
jotheonah (3): pubby, A Drowned Kernel, MiX
2.71828..... (1): Uncleeurope
Glooble (1): EFHW
pubby (3): silverspawn, mcmcsalot, Glooble
silverspawn (1): Debatepro
Deatepro (1): jotheonah

Not Voting (2): DatSwan, ashersky

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 ends on June 10, 2019, 16:00. That is in under 27 hours.

Something is wrong with this deadline. This still isn’t under 27 hours
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #411 on: June 09, 2019, 12:03:02 pm »

Anyways, I thought the deadline was sooner and that we were picking between debate and pubby. I’ll look at joth though. I don’t really remember anything from him.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #412 on: June 09, 2019, 12:03:24 pm »

How does globule feel about joth?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #413 on: June 09, 2019, 12:07:02 pm »

Also I really want pubby to explain why he said he was unlikely to move his vote from joth.
Dunno what's confusing about this. Joth was and is my strongest scumread by large enough margin to make up my mind. I don't see the point in second-guessing myself or muddying up the thread with meme votes. My vote remains.

That is an answer, but not one that makes me want to move my vote off of you.

Have you considered how this position looks to the rest of us? How it excludes you from interactions that we could use to judge your towniness?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #414 on: June 09, 2019, 12:10:46 pm »

How does globule feel about joth?

Seems like he’s playing like he always does. Maybe a little less invested than usual. I guess that could be a scumtell, but eh, it’s not a great one. Easily explained by irl pressures. On the whole I’m townreading him.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #415 on: June 09, 2019, 12:41:00 pm »

Vote Count 1.8

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 ends on June 10, 2019, 16:00. That is in under 27 hours.

Something is wrong with this deadline. This still isn’t under 27 hours

Yeah, the math doesn’t add up. Time zones are hard. It’s almost 27 hours away now. 

EDIT: This information was unfortunately wrong. The correct deadline is June 10, 2019, 10:00:00 am. Sorry about the confusion.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2019, 03:40:25 pm by faust »
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #416 on: June 09, 2019, 02:04:14 pm »

debatepro, what are you actually imagining is happening here? Even if you disagree with me that the question wasn't answered, how could that possibly be interesting enough to talk so much about?

Why was it so important he answer it again to you?

Do you have a better case on someone else I should be examining? I mean you have been pushing me, which is wrong. I’ve never played with a traitor, asked a question, and that makes me candidate 1 to you.

So when I flip town, you will have waited all this time on me.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #417 on: June 09, 2019, 02:12:48 pm »

The traitor thing is the biggest argument against your lynch. It makes you less scummy, not more. You're scummy based on attitude.

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #418 on: June 09, 2019, 02:13:30 pm »

Why was it so important he answer it again to you?

Please don't be condescending. I don't think he ever answered it.

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #419 on: June 09, 2019, 03:14:50 pm »

Had a super busy weekend, I'll get to this later today or tomorrow morning
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #420 on: June 09, 2019, 03:38:37 pm »

Vote Count 1.8

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 ends on June 10, 2019, 16:00. That is in under 27 hours.

Something is wrong with this deadline. This still isn’t under 27 hours
Yeah, the math doesn’t add up. Time zones are hard. It’s almost 27 hours away now. 
In fact, the time tag got lost somewhere it is now fixed. The deadline is June 10, 2019, 10:00:00 am, in about 18.5 hours.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #421 on: June 09, 2019, 06:48:20 pm »

This is not a great situation for town to be in with 16 hours to deadline. We really need to start consolidating around a candidate if we want a lynch to happen.

Everyone is talking about debatepro but only 2 people are actually voting debatepro. That’s weird, isn’t it? This close to the end of the day shouldn’t we be talking about the leading wagons?

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #422 on: June 09, 2019, 06:53:10 pm »

I refuse to unvote pubby until they at least try to do something. If they're this quick to give up then we might as well lynch them.

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #423 on: June 09, 2019, 07:06:50 pm »

I refuse to unvote pubby until they at least try to do something. If they're this quick to give up then we might as well lynch them.

Reasonable. Though you moving off of pubby would leave only the joth wagon, and that’s a wagon I’m unlikely to join.

Debatepro, Eddie. You’re each on your own little wagons. Are any of the slightly larger wagons appealing to you?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #424 on: June 09, 2019, 07:08:07 pm »

Wait, I guess it would leave the debatepro wagon the same size as the joth wagon.
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