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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #325 on: June 07, 2019, 02:51:47 pm »

I guess I'm voting for joth? Not the worst place to have my vote
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #326 on: June 07, 2019, 02:53:25 pm »

Game unrelated: debatepro did you use to do high school/college policy debate?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #327 on: June 07, 2019, 02:53:41 pm »

I guess I'm voting for joth? Not the worst place to have my vote

Pretty solid default vote apparently. But can I interest you in MiXing it up a little?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #328 on: June 07, 2019, 03:02:21 pm »

I guess I'm voting for joth? Not the worst place to have my vote

Pretty solid default vote apparently. But can I interest you in MiXing it up a little?

Nope!
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #329 on: June 07, 2019, 03:03:31 pm »

Oh yeah, it was the way you reacted to the voting bloc idea. You seemed desperate to be included, which I concluded was most likely to come from jittery scum.

Ah, my bad, I forgot you had this. Okay you're not conf!scum then.

Game unrelated: debatepro did you use to do high school/college policy debate?

Surely he has already answered this question with a "yes" elsewhere, right? Not that I remember it, just seems like an obvious thing to ask.

I guess I'm voting for joth? Not the worst place to have my vote

Pretty solid default vote apparently. But can I interest you in MiXing it up a little?

Are we gonna end up scumreading each other D1 again?

Oh, and by the way, anyone else interested in killin' off our boy, e?

I'm fine with this. Joth seems scummier, which is probably a towntell for him, still want him gone more than anyone else.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #330 on: June 07, 2019, 05:41:38 pm »

[quite]Are we gonna end up scumreading each other D1 again?[/quote]

I mean, I’m not like super-super sure you’re scum. You’re just the best bet for a D1 lynch as of now as far as I know. So we don’t have to make a big 1v1 thing about it. You want me to vote elsewhere? Make a better case. :)
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #331 on: June 08, 2019, 12:20:54 am »

Any other thoughts on e?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #332 on: June 08, 2019, 01:42:05 am »

Game unrelated: debatepro did you use to do high school/college policy debate?

Both. Judging both levels, some coaching, side hustles. But I’ve been in tech and cybersecurity for a couple decades.  WCD also debated and coached in college, it’s how we met.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #333 on: June 08, 2019, 02:05:23 am »

Any other thoughts on e?

Not sure if I’m missing it, but you haven’t said why you are voting for him. Care to share or do you have some other plan in the works?

I did ask if both you all would share some thoughts and reads about the game.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #334 on: June 08, 2019, 02:14:19 am »

I am not dead - camping until Sunday with way less access then i expected.

Glooble i think you should probably read more thoroughly before making accusations.

I’ll get a vote down tomorrow when i have a connection again after i catch up.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #335 on: June 08, 2019, 02:16:55 am »

Any other thoughts on e?

Not sure if I’m missing it, but you haven’t said why you are voting for him. Care to share or do you have some other plan in the works?

I did ask if both you all would share some thoughts and reads about the game.

Seems to fit.

Posts weird.

Dunno.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #336 on: June 08, 2019, 02:17:28 am »


Re: Glooble pushing DS

ADK gives town points 324
EFHW gives scum points 295

Others have any takes on this issue? Is this even a useful data point?

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #337 on: June 08, 2019, 03:39:57 am »

Vote Count 1.7

MiX (3): pingpongsam, Debatepro, jotheonah
DatSwan (3): 2.71828....., Glooble, gkrieg13
jotheonah (3): pubby, A Drowned Kernel, MiX
2.71828..... (1): Uncleeurope
Glooble (1): EFHW
pubby (2): silverspawn, mcmcsalot

Not Voting (2): DatSwan, ashersky

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 ends on June 10, 2019, 10:00:00 am.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #338 on: June 08, 2019, 04:57:44 am »

Any other thoughts on e?

Not sure if I’m missing it, but you haven’t said why you are voting for him. Care to share or do you have some other plan in the works?

I did ask if both you all would share some thoughts and reads about the game.

Seems to fit.

Posts weird.

Dunno.

Anything else? Okay: what about joth?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #339 on: June 08, 2019, 05:17:28 am »

Debatepro's probably scum. Let's analyze one of their posts, mainly the one with actual reads and not just questions: (I cut some of the flavour in it to get to the read list)

  • I want to read more from e, efhw, and eddie because I feel like I know them better than other players. No ideas on PPS and pubby, because they are not saying much, and I don't know them very well. Asher hasn't said much, I did agree with his take on DS's plan v planning, and they were helpful. I think at least one scum tends to be inactive in d1. But I have not played many games and thus a small sample size.
  • mcmc seems townie but being helpful is part of his meta. I may always equate being nice and helpful as a town trait. I’ll have to factor that into my calculation if I can.
  • This DS issue with plan vs. planning seemed contrived and shit, wouldn't be surprised if there was scum on and intentionally avoiding that discussion. Not a plus or minus for DS, mostly others. This doesn't exonerate DS, just thought it was crap.
  • MiX always seems scummy, even when he is town, I think that is well known. He does seem to be playing a little bit more deliberately, but I've heard he is doing this more and more. Wouldn't surprise me if scum team avoided voting for town!mix, hoping he will be lynched without their help.
  • My 'spidey senses' have occasionally been heightened by ADK, gkreig, glooble, & Joth. When i reread, I can convince myself that that they could be town.
  • SS - Not good at reading him, last time I played he was scum and had a town read on me. Probably won scum the game because I was too stubborn to see it for what it was. I'll probably read them more skeptically in this game.

Now let's process it:

e - He feels like he can read him better. No reads
Eddie - He feels like he can read him better. No reads
EFHW -He feels like he can read her better. No reads
pps - Doesn't know him, not saying much. Null, I presume
pubby - Doesn't know him, not saying much. Null, I presume
ash - Hasn't said much, agrees with him regarding Swan's plan vs planning thing (IIRC ash said it came more from town?). No reads (although he said he was helpful and then mentions that's a town trait)

Then a comment that "one scum tends to be inactive D1", I suppose throwing shade on everyone he had mentioned so far. Then he continues:

mcmc - Townie but he always sees helpful as town.
Swan - Plan vs planning thing doesn't change his read on Swan, so I presume it's null?
MiX - He's scummy when town, something about how I play, ends with "scum team doesn't want to vote for him, hoping he's lynched without their help". No real read here, unless that was supposed to say null.
ADK, gkrieg, Glooble and joth - Scummy, I presume. All lumped together and he even says he's not that sure.
silverspawn - Hard to read, then some talk about his previous game. No reads

Overall there's 1-2 town reads, 4 "scum" reads and the rest are a bunch of nully nulls. Meh, this probably fits town!Debatepro, but it wouldn't fit me if I didn't scumread him to hell and back.

Regardless, Debatepro, if you had to vote for someone right now, who would it be?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #340 on: June 08, 2019, 08:14:18 am »

I think debate is fine.

At least for now.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #341 on: June 08, 2019, 08:15:02 am »

Any other thoughts on e?

Not sure if I’m missing it, but you haven’t said why you are voting for him. Care to share or do you have some other plan in the works?

I did ask if both you all would share some thoughts and reads about the game.

Seems to fit.

Posts weird.

Dunno.

Anything else? Okay: what about joth?

Joth is... Joth...

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #342 on: June 08, 2019, 08:36:39 am »

I can see Eddie doesn't feel like being eloquent today. But seriously what do you think of joth?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #343 on: June 08, 2019, 09:02:54 am »

I can see Eddie doesn't feel like being eloquent today. But seriously what do you think of joth?

Eddie is giving a performance.  Does he decide to do that as town or scum?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #344 on: June 08, 2019, 09:21:08 am »

Sorry I was quiet, family emergency (everyone is okay).  I’ll try to contribute tomorrow (Sunday).
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #345 on: June 08, 2019, 10:00:50 am »

I can see Eddie doesn't feel like being eloquent today. But seriously what do you think of joth?

Eddie is giving a performance.  Does he decide to do that as town or scum?

Town.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #346 on: June 08, 2019, 10:16:49 am »

MiX, what exactly do you find scummy about joth? He's reading null-to-towny for me this game.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #347 on: June 08, 2019, 10:18:50 am »

Also, on a related note, if you think debatepro is probably scum why aren't you voting there?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #348 on: June 08, 2019, 11:06:49 am »

Debatepro's probably scum. Let's analyze one of their posts, mainly the one with actual reads and not just questions: (I cut some of the flavour in it to get to the read list)
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Overall there's 1-2 town reads, 4 "scum" reads and the rest are a bunch of nully nulls. Meh, this probably fits town!Debatepro, but it wouldn't fit me if I didn't scumread him to hell and back.

Are you just thinking out loud? You can work though all of theses issues, craft a post, and then at the end, delete it instead of posting if it is not a value add. Maybe I unable to decipher the last sentence.

Regardless, Debatepro, if you had to vote for someone right now, who would it be?

My vote is right where it belongs.



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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #349 on: June 08, 2019, 11:52:31 am »

MiX, what exactly do you find scummy about joth? He's reading null-to-towny for me this game.

He's playing up his town meta too much, pubby's case is alright and I don't really understand his case on me.

Also, on a related note, if you think debatepro is probably scum why aren't you voting there?

Not that sure. I would sooner vote for e in any case.

Debatepro's probably scum. Let's analyze one of their posts, mainly the one with actual reads and not just questions: (I cut some of the flavour in it to get to the read list)
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Overall there's 1-2 town reads, 4 "scum" reads and the rest are a bunch of nully nulls. Meh, this probably fits town!Debatepro, but it wouldn't fit me if I didn't scumread him to hell and back.

Are you just thinking out loud? You can work though all of theses issues, craft a post, and then at the end, delete it instead of posting if it is not a value add. Maybe I unable to decipher the last sentence.

I didn't know it was that useless...

Regardless, Debatepro, if you had to vote for someone right now, who would it be?

My vote is right where it belongs.

Do you have a reason for this vote?
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