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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #275 on: June 05, 2019, 12:09:32 pm »

Beautiful.

Just to clarify, you said that you have no reason to be honest as town and I policy voted you.

Why do you think this helps town? Is this a policy vote or expressing a will to policy lynch? Correct me if they're the same.

I'm not going to promise that I'll unvote you when you get close to being lynched; that would make the policy vote less effective. Maybe I will policy lynch you, maybe I won't. You definitely shouldn't intentionally lie-or-not-keep-promises as town.

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #276 on: June 05, 2019, 12:10:37 pm »

This post is over-the-top scummy. MiX is saying "explain your completely unexplained vote and I'll join your wagon, [apparently regardless of how bad the explanation is]". Why even ask for the explanation? So you have a flimsy pretense for your scummy vote?

vote: MiX

Consider yourself being in scum!Mix shoes. Does this really seem like a plausible thought process?

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #277 on: June 05, 2019, 12:26:05 pm »

Beautiful.

Just to clarify, you said that you have no reason to be honest as town and I policy voted you.

Why do you think this helps town? Is this a policy vote or expressing a will to policy lynch? Correct me if they're the same.

I'm not going to promise that I'll unvote you when you get close to being lynched; that would make the policy vote less effective. Maybe I will policy lynch you, maybe I won't. You definitely shouldn't intentionally lie-or-not-keep-promises as town.

So the key to not breaking promises is to not make them? Okay, I see.

@pubby, explain your vote and I'll probably sheep you.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #278 on: June 05, 2019, 12:41:04 pm »

This post is over-the-top scummy. MiX is saying "explain your completely unexplained vote and I'll join your wagon, [apparently regardless of how bad the explanation is]". Why even ask for the explanation? So you have a flimsy pretense for your scummy vote?

vote: MiX

Consider yourself being in scum!Mix shoes. Does this really seem like a plausible thought process?

I did say it was over the top.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #279 on: June 05, 2019, 02:15:37 pm »

Vote Count 1.5

MiX (4): pingpongsam, Debatepro, jotheonah, silverspawn
DatSwan (3): 2.71828....., Glooble, gkrieg13
jotheonah (2): pubby, A Drowned Kernel
EFHW (2): MiX, mcmcsalot
2.71828..... (1): Uncleeurope

Not Voting (3): DatSwan, ashersky, EFHW

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 ends on June 10, 2019, 10:00:00 am.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2019, 03:35:59 pm by faust »
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #280 on: June 05, 2019, 02:28:09 pm »

All the votes on Swan are lazy and he has done nothing scummy.

Gkrieg, can you explain why Swan is scum?

unvote. DatSwan does this kind of thing a lot. It has gotten him lynched correctly and gotten him mislynched. My opinion is that scum isn't going to try a purposeful misdirect this early in the game.

Vote: EFHW

PPE: Fine, I guess you're just bussing then.

He gave something that made it look like ash had contradicted himself and then didn't really comment on it. Scum likes to mention something and then let everyone else comment on it and then come back and comment on it later after they see how people respond to it.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #281 on: June 05, 2019, 02:31:44 pm »

Mcmcsalot is town
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #282 on: June 05, 2019, 10:04:21 pm »

@e, EFHW, Eddie - Any early reads?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #283 on: June 05, 2019, 10:53:38 pm »

Heh, you asked the “e” names.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #284 on: June 06, 2019, 12:02:48 am »

@e, EFHW, Eddie - Any early reads?

Is there actually a reason to ask those particular people?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #285 on: June 06, 2019, 04:56:58 am »

@pubby, explain your vote and I'll probably sheep you.
I think joth is trying harder than anyone else to appear innocent. I don't believe him when he says he's not "into" this game - I mean, he had opinions about voting blocs and strategy and even tallied up the votes for everyone.

But if he is town, I won't feel terrible if he's lynched. Because again, I'd rather lynch the guy who's not feeling the game than a player more involved.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #286 on: June 06, 2019, 06:02:30 am »

Vote: joth sounds good, I might have to metaread EFHW since it's the first time I think she's scum.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #287 on: June 06, 2019, 07:52:52 am »

@pubby, explain your vote and I'll probably sheep you.
I think joth is trying harder than anyone else to appear innocent. I don't believe him when he says he's not "into" this game - I mean, he had opinions about voting blocs and strategy and even tallied up the votes for everyone.

But if he is town, I won't feel terrible if he's lynched. Because again, I'd rather lynch the guy who's not feeling the game than a player more involved.

This game is the most important thing in the world to me.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #288 on: June 06, 2019, 09:09:49 am »

@e, EFHW, Eddie - Any early reads?

Is there actually a reason to ask those particular people?

- I iso'd everyone
- I have played with each of them more than once (fds/lynchpool)
- I have been partners with them (lynchpool Less Pressure #2 & #5)
- I wanted to see what they had to say
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #289 on: June 06, 2019, 09:11:59 am »

@e, EFHW, Eddie - Any early reads?

Is there actually a reason to ask those particular people?

- I iso'd everyone
- I have played with each of them more than once (fds/lynchpool)
- I have been partners with them (lynchpool Less Pressure #2 & #5)
- I wanted to see what they had to say

What is your early read?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #290 on: June 06, 2019, 09:18:59 am »

This game feels like it has stalled. Someone do something scummy.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #291 on: June 06, 2019, 12:45:40 pm »

I am about to be VLA for at least a week. My schedule will be more closely aligned to those playing in western Europe. I will try to check in at least once a day. The good news is, some of that time will be in the night so I won't miss anything.

Exceedingly early feelings for the record, perhaps it helps team "destroy the earth", I am fond of the impact from a large object hurling through space variety.
  • I want to read more from e, efhw, and eddie because I feel like I know them better than other players. No ideas on PPS and pubby, because they are not saying much, and I don't know them very well. Asher hasn't said much, I did agree with his take on DS's plan v planning, and they were helpful. I think at least one scum tends to be inactive in d1. But I have not played many games and thus a small sample size.
  • mcmc seems townie but being helpful is part of his meta. I may always equate being nice and helpful as a town trait. I’ll have to factor that into my calculation if I can.
  • This DS issue with plan vs. planning seemed contrived and shit, wouldn't be surprised if there was scum on and intentionally avoiding that discussion. Not a plus or minus for DS, mostly others. This doesn't exonerate DS, just thought it was crap.
  • MiX always seems scummy, even when he is town, I think that is well known. He does seem to be playing a little bit more deliberately, but I've heard he is doing this more and more. Wouldn't surprise me if scum team avoided voting for town!mix, hoping he will be lynched without their help.
  • My 'spidey senses' have occasionally been heightened by ADK, gkreig, glooble, & Joth. When i reread, I can convince myself that that they could be town.
  • SS - Not good at reading him, last time I played he was scum and had a town read on me. Probably won scum the game because I was too stubborn to see it for what it was. I'll probably read them more skeptically in this game.

Cheers!





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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #292 on: June 06, 2019, 12:52:26 pm »

I'm ridiculously busy. Next week I am going to a 3 day conference in Boston for work so I expect I'll probably be pretty busy then as well. I am definitely following along but am not finding time for rereads and not getting the feeling right now any are actually warranted. I'm no fan of D1 for lots of reasons. Once there is some real activity to ponder over I can assure you I will be more active.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #293 on: June 06, 2019, 12:53:37 pm »

I'm ridiculously busy. Next week I am going to a 3 day conference in Boston for work so I expect I'll probably be pretty busy then as well. I am definitely following along but am not finding time for rereads and not getting the feeling right now any are actually warranted. I'm no fan of D1 for lots of reasons. Once there is some real activity to ponder over I can assure you I will be more active.

I live in Boston! Lmk in PM if you want to grab a drink and not talk about this game. :P
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #294 on: June 06, 2019, 04:36:17 pm »

I'm thinking vote: Glooble. He seemed overly enthusiastic about my DatSwan case and was maybe looking for something to talk about in analyzing the last game instead of this one.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #295 on: June 06, 2019, 09:33:52 pm »

Also been crazy busy. Sorry for that.

Typical race to a rushed D1 lynch in the cards, I think.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #296 on: June 06, 2019, 10:02:35 pm »

Also been crazy busy. Sorry for that.

Typical race to a rushed D1 lynch in the cards, I think.

We do have four more days. I will try to do a reread tomorrow and sort some people.

Care to put your vote anywhere?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #297 on: June 07, 2019, 03:57:39 am »

Reread the game.

So ash said something that appears like a contradiction and DatSwan pulled out some quotes pointing this out. Then he got heat for it. I think everyone who pointed out that this doesn't make DS scummy deserves some town points. That's at least EFHW and ash.

I think pubby's appearance so far is not good. Here is the full ISO for you:


vote: pingpongsam

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I cannot get into this game guys. Try as I might.

That's OK. It means I won't feel guilty about...

vote: jotheonah

Not expecting to change my vote from this.

@pubby, explain your vote and I'll probably sheep you.
I think joth is trying harder than anyone else to appear innocent. I don't believe him when he says he's not "into" this game - I mean, he had opinions about voting blocs and strategy and even tallied up the votes for everyone.

But if he is town, I won't feel terrible if he's lynched. Because again, I'd rather lynch the guy who's not feeling the game than a player more involved.

3 posts, and all are scummy.

I'm also wary of debatepro. In my first game with them – well, I was scum and knew they were town, so it's possible I deluded myself, but I nonetheless – I got super strong town vibes from them pretty much the entire game. This time I don't. Is it just because they're not as new anymore? Very possible.

This is also interesting:

Can a friendly town person please give me a high-level explanation of what the traitor is and how it works? I've never played with one and read the mafia wiki on it, but I'm still unsure how it works in or could work in this game.

I did stuff like that as scum when I was new. Actually did it in my first scum game. But the fact that they say they've read on it in the wiki is the kind of detail that makes it more likely to be true.

@Mcmc: you've never answered me about how seriously you took your attempt to create the bloc. Please respond.


This post is over-the-top scummy. MiX is saying "explain your completely unexplained vote and I'll join your wagon, [apparently regardless of how bad the explanation is]". Why even ask for the explanation? So you have a flimsy pretense for your scummy vote?

vote: MiX

Consider yourself being in scum!Mix shoes. Does this really seem like a plausible thought process?

I did say it was over the top.

But you voted anyway. Why?

Here's where I'm at right now.

Town: ADK, Gloooble, Eddie, joth
Scum: pubby

vote: pubby

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #298 on: June 07, 2019, 08:02:20 am »

Holy lurker lynch Batman that’s a small number of posts!

I’ll give vote: pubby a try
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #299 on: June 07, 2019, 08:36:22 am »

Vote Count 1.6

MiX (2): pingpongsam, Debatepro,
DatSwan (3): 2.71828....., Glooble, gkrieg13
jotheonah (3): pubby, A Drowned Kernel, MiX
EFHW (1): mcmcsalot
2.71828..... (1): Uncleeurope
Glooble (1): EFHW
pubby (2): silverspawn, jotheonah

Not Voting (2): DatSwan, ashersky

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 ends on June 10, 2019, 10:00:00 am.
« Last Edit: June 09, 2019, 03:36:16 pm by faust »
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