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Author Topic: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Town and Survivor win!)  (Read 157124 times)

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1350 on: July 01, 2019, 10:13:01 pm »

Vote: GK
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1351 on: July 01, 2019, 10:16:56 pm »

no doubt faust is sleeping.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1352 on: July 01, 2019, 10:27:28 pm »

Lame that third party is not playing to win unless they are SK
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1353 on: July 02, 2019, 01:25:52 am »

Lame that third party is not playing to win unless they are SK

I would agree with this statement as any alignment. I know there are many players who feel it is unsportsmanlike conduct (do we say unsportspersonlike now?) to purposely play against your wincon, which I think passing up on a free win constitutes.

So I feel your pain, man. Sorry you lose.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1354 on: July 02, 2019, 01:27:12 am »

Can role and faction powers self-target in this game?

I have an idea.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Night 3)
« Reply #1355 on: July 02, 2019, 01:33:08 am »

Day 4 Final Vote Count

gkrieg13 (5): pubby, MiX, Glooble, EFHW, DatSwan

Not Voting (3): pingpongsam, ashersky, gkrieg13

With 8 alive, it took 5 to lynch.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1356 on: July 02, 2019, 01:45:50 am »

Recent experimental evidence from CERN has solidified the many-worlds theory of quantum mechanics. In this paper, we discuss the philosophical implications of those discoveries, particularly in opposition to the "best of all possible worlds" argument in Leibniz's theodicy, but also their broader impact on the validity of religious belief systems.

- Philosophical paper, submitted 2056


gkrieg13 has been lynched! They were Metaphysical Salvation, the Mafia Goon!

Night 4 begins now and lasts until July 03, 2019, 02:00:00 pm. Note that I have shortened the night to account for a VLA. Night action deadline is still until then, i.e. 36 hours.

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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1357 on: July 03, 2019, 03:11:06 pm »

The Great Balkan Clone Wars were the final result of ever-increasing bio-engineering and genome manipulation. As armies of perfectly ruthless and obedient clones clashed, the land was wasted and the question of the morality of breeding humans for specific tasks gained new urgency. The Skopje Convention on Cloning was subsequently enforced strictly, a rare example of successful global tech regulation in those times.

MiX has been killed! They were Clone Breeding, the Vanilla Townie!

Day 5 begins!


Vote Count 5.0


Not Voting (6): Glooble, DatSwan, pingpongsam, EFHW, ashersky, pubby

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 5 ends on July 10, 2019, 03:00:00 pm.

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« Last Edit: July 08, 2019, 06:43:46 am by faust »
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1358 on: July 03, 2019, 03:53:39 pm »

I think there almost has to be scum in the neighborhood.  There's been no interest in lynching there and no nks there, likely out of fear of there also being a survivor.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1359 on: July 03, 2019, 04:03:05 pm »

Well it seems pretty obvious that the neighbor scum is Ash. Do you think there's someone else?

vote: ash
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1360 on: July 03, 2019, 05:39:21 pm »

Killing MiX was a weird move.

Ash is pretty likely scum.

How much of a time crunch are we in?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1361 on: July 03, 2019, 05:41:18 pm »

Well it seems pretty obvious that the neighbor scum is Ash. Do you think there's someone else?

vote: ash
It doesn't seem obvious to me. Can you elaborate? And why are you voting so quickly?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1362 on: July 03, 2019, 05:43:12 pm »

Killing MiX was a weird move.

Ash is pretty likely scum.

How much of a time crunch are we in?
MiX was obv!town by that point, and keeps the game going.

Why do you think ash is the scum?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1363 on: July 03, 2019, 05:53:09 pm »

Killing MiX was a weird move.

Ash is pretty likely scum.

How much of a time crunch are we in?
MiX was obv!town by that point, and keeps the game going.

Why do you think ash is the scum?

Well, for one thing he keeps not voting for scum?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1364 on: July 03, 2019, 06:27:15 pm »

Well it seems pretty obvious that the neighbor scum is Ash. Do you think there's someone else?

vote: ash

It still kind of doesn’t matter. I am at the point that i think skum is in the hood - as i think they would of started shooting at us by now if not.

Hood could have 1/3, or 0/3.
Outside Hood can have 1/4 or 2/4.
I am leaning probably 1/4 outside and 1/3 inside at this point, but bc of potential of it being a guaranteed loss if there is no skum in the hood... still makes me hesitant.

I need to re read with the mix flip tho.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1365 on: July 04, 2019, 07:59:18 am »

There's 6 people left in the game. Half the game at this point is the neighborhood. There's 2 scum. Both in the neighborhood is impossible. So for a player outside the neighborhood, lynching another player outside the neighborhood is a 50/50 shot.

From my perspective, since I know I am town, either pubby or pps is scum. Full stop.

Could be both, of course, if neighborhood is all town. But it's definitely at least one of them.

Either way I think my best course of action is to reread these two. I think it's pps, just cause pubby hammered e, but as I said before, I can see a scenario where scum does that for town points. And if there is only one scum outside the neighborhood, they're the traitor, so its possible they didn't know e was scum.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1366 on: July 04, 2019, 08:18:53 am »

That being said:

pubby, who is scummier between me and pps?

pps, who is scummier between me and pubby?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1367 on: July 04, 2019, 08:43:47 am »

Well it seems pretty obvious that the neighbor scum is Ash. Do you think there's someone else?

vote: ash
I think this is super scummy. I think pubby is suddenly posting because 2 of the mafia are dead and he's stepping up to fill in the void. His scum!ash theory got debunked, so unless he has more, this is a scummy vote.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1368 on: July 04, 2019, 08:52:27 am »

Current read: Ash, PPS as mafia. gkrieg as traitor.

If gkrieg is regular mafia, it seems very unlikely that PPS is scum based on yesterday's votes.
I'll moderate my previous post a bit, since I'm noticing that pubby tends to give his infrequent posts at the start of a day, so this post isn't sudden activity. 

I'd like to know, given the above quote,  who pubby thinks is the scum not in the neighborhood.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1369 on: July 04, 2019, 10:30:25 am »

That being said:

pubby, who is scummier between me and pps?

pps, who is scummier between me and pubby?
Pubby by a rather large margin.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1370 on: July 04, 2019, 12:10:33 pm »

I suspected pps scum days ago so I'm sticking to that. I think gkrieg/e voting him makes him look townier but he has not been voting against scum (neither has Ash) so he's still scummy in my eyes. I saw a link between Ash/ pps so if one's scum the other should be lynched as well.

Btw I do not see how scum Ash has been debunked.


I think pubby is suddenly posting because 2 of the mafia are dead
Mod said he'd replace me if I didn't start posting   :P
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1371 on: July 04, 2019, 01:13:54 pm »

A reread of the end of day 1 is informative. Gkrieg is number 5 on the pubby wagon.  Given that the debate wagon was also picking up steam at the time, and we know debate was town, it seems really weird for gkrieg to bus there. And then e puts pubby to L-1. I just don’t buy it if pubby’s scum. I don’t think scum buses like that day one, not when there’s a viable lynch on a townie with just as strong a case.

It’s got to be pps.

vote: pingpongsam
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1372 on: July 04, 2019, 01:30:24 pm »

On the other hand, how likely is it that the debatepro wagon was 100% town?
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1373 on: July 04, 2019, 01:43:36 pm »

You know what I forgot? Pubby/ pps is the traitor. Dammit. E and gkrieg wouldn’t have known day 1. My logic is flawed.

unvote for now.
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Re: M123: Doomsday Mafia (Day 5)
« Reply #1374 on: July 04, 2019, 01:45:01 pm »

What are the chances pps’s “is Traitor hunting a scumtell” comment was him signaling his traitorness?
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