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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1525 on: May 22, 2019, 03:10:17 pm »

But then they walk it back with this long post.

This and

But then switches over to glooble fairly quickly.

Kinda convinces me. But naaaah it's gkrieg.

I'm town, but nothing ADK has done has been all that scummy. MiX bussed Datswan pretty hard when it seemed like the momentum could have switched to joth D2, and then challenged chairs.

I would love for both of them to actually make cases for why I'm scum, instead of just being the default lynch.

I think I win LyLo against anyone so I don't really care anymore. I like your effort, I suppose.

vote: MiX

Is voting without explaining just what all the cool kids are doing now?
Vote: ADK

Is this why we think ADK is the lynchee?

Vote: ADK

And this one too. I guess it just means that MiX probably wasn't the lynchee.

Pretty much, yes. The way ADK became a major wagon and how Joseph was a major part of it is why I'm townreading him more than you.

PPE the other posts I think?
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #1526 on: May 22, 2019, 03:12:11 pm »

ADK has had six different players vote for them.

Faust - for ADK name dropping the traitor a whole bunch
Joseph - sheep’s Faust (before Faust gave reasons)
MiX - (presumably voting for a different viable wagon)
Joth - unexplained
Swan - based on the amount of promoter talk ADK engaged I
Chairs - sheep’s Faust (after Faust gave reasons)
Faust return
Mix return
Joesph return
So most of these cases are promoter or traitor talk
Both of which weren't super helpful

I think it's scummier than anything ari has done, so Vote: ADK

I'm sleeping now, will be back in ~8 hours

PPE: 1

votes for ADK then moves vote to joth. I think it is possible that joth was the lynchee.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1527 on: May 22, 2019, 03:14:51 pm »

But then they walk it back with this long post.

This and

But then switches over to glooble fairly quickly.

Kinda convinces me. But naaaah it's gkrieg.

I'm town, but nothing ADK has done has been all that scummy. MiX bussed Datswan pretty hard when it seemed like the momentum could have switched to joth D2, and then challenged chairs.

I would love for both of them to actually make cases for why I'm scum, instead of just being the default lynch.

I think I win LyLo against anyone so I don't really care anymore. I like your effort, I suppose.

vote: MiX

Is voting without explaining just what all the cool kids are doing now?
Vote: ADK

Is this why we think ADK is the lynchee?

Vote: ADK

And this one too. I guess it just means that MiX probably wasn't the lynchee.

Pretty much, yes. The way ADK became a major wagon and how Joseph was a major part of it is why I'm townreading him more than you.

PPE the other posts I think?

If it really were me, I would have self-voted. I hate being mislynched for dumb reasons over anything else.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1528 on: May 22, 2019, 03:22:53 pm »

I think I win LyLo against anyone so I don't really care anymore.

I will lynch you over ADK every time.
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TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1529 on: May 22, 2019, 03:25:09 pm »

I think I win LyLo against anyone so I don't really care anymore.

I will lynch you over ADK every time.

Aww. What if gkrieg isn't trying his hardest to win?
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1530 on: May 22, 2019, 03:52:06 pm »

I think I win LyLo against anyone so I don't really care anymore.

I will lynch you over ADK every time.

Aww. What if gkrieg isn't trying his hardest to win?

Why would you think he isn’t? He has nothing to lose by trying as Town or as scum.
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1531 on: May 22, 2019, 03:56:26 pm »

I think I win LyLo against anyone so I don't really care anymore.

I will lynch you over ADK every time.

Aww. What if gkrieg isn't trying his hardest to win?

Why would you think he isn’t? He has nothing to lose by trying as Town or as scum.

Yeah I kinda meant to say "as scum" in the end. I think he's scum that's trying to win instead of giving up.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1532 on: May 22, 2019, 04:27:05 pm »

I think I win LyLo against anyone so I don't really care anymore.

I will lynch you over ADK every time.

Aww. What if gkrieg isn't trying his hardest to win?

Why would you think he isn’t? He has nothing to lose by trying as Town or as scum.

Yeah I kinda meant to say "as scum" in the end. I think he's scum that's trying to win instead of giving up.

I said I would lynch you over ADK, not over Gkrieg. I still plan on lynching him today.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1533 on: May 22, 2019, 07:09:04 pm »

Request prod on Space.

Sorry.. I'm here! Work got busy, and I have no free weekends to use in compensation. I'm really sorry for my absences! :-(
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1534 on: May 22, 2019, 07:17:54 pm »

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Sorry.. I'm here! Work got busy, and I have no free weekends to use in compensation. I'm really sorry for my absences! :-(

Space, can you please do a fully targeted reread on MiX, and his potential to be scum with Chairs/Datswan.

How do you feel about him challenging Chairs in this pairing? Given the number of IC’s, the pressure to challenge Chairs over Gkrieg yesterday, and the overall feeling that scum were already backed into a corner, is it really that unreasonable of him to challenge his partner banking on the town!cred generated to buy him the following two mislynches he would need to win?
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1535 on: May 22, 2019, 07:21:36 pm »

Request prod on Space.

Sorry.. I'm here! Work got busy, and I have no free weekends to use in compensation. I'm really sorry for my absences! :-(

Space, can you please do a fully targeted reread on MiX, and his potential to be scum with Chairs/Datswan.

How do you feel about him challenging Chairs in this pairing? Given the number of IC’s, the pressure to challenge Chairs over Gkrieg yesterday, and the overall feeling that scum were already backed into a corner, is it really that unreasonable of him to challenge his partner banking on the town!cred generated to buy him the following two mislynches he would need to win?

Note, in fact, that yesterday I pointed out that had he challenged Gkrieg after it was made clear by active IC’s that he should challenge Chairs that it would’ve resulted in his immediate lynch - and if he flipped scum, Chairs’s immediate lynch today.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1536 on: May 22, 2019, 07:38:59 pm »

MiX was voting for chairs and the end of D3, as well as challenging him D4. He also headed the Swan wagon on D2, and didn't flinch after the wagon started growing, right up to Swan getting lynched. So that seems an unlikely set of scum actions.

This is me just looking at the voting states for the moment.. I've updated my lists, though not in a way that will let me post them to the thread in a coloured-in format.. I might need some time tomorrow for that, and also for the full targeted re-read of MiX.

My feelings for the moment are that gkrieg is the top pick, followed by MiX, followed by ADK.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1537 on: May 22, 2019, 07:58:41 pm »

Just vote gkrieg!
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1538 on: May 22, 2019, 09:18:11 pm »

Just vote gkrieg!

I would rather have Space’s analysis now, in case Gkrieg flips town and then Space dies at night.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1539 on: May 23, 2019, 12:31:18 am »

Just vote gkrieg!

I would rather have Space’s analysis now, in case Gkrieg flips town and then Space dies at night.

I am flipping town. Don't know why people are rushing this so much.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1540 on: May 23, 2019, 07:17:34 am »

Just vote gkrieg!

I would rather have Space’s analysis now, in case Gkrieg flips town and then Space dies at night.

I am flipping town. Don't know why people are rushing this so much.
What was the point of the long posts showing who was mentioned when by ADK and MiX? Did you draw any conclusions from that?
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #1541 on: May 23, 2019, 07:19:38 am »

vote: MiX

Is voting without explaining just what all the cool kids are doing now?
Vote: ADK

Is this why we think ADK is the lynchee?
It's the one where he says he had his own reasons for voting ADK. I quoted it awhile back and someone else quoted it a really long time ago, don't remember who.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1542 on: May 23, 2019, 07:20:30 am »

Probably Glooble.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1543 on: May 23, 2019, 07:36:31 am »

They killed the person most suspicious of MiX. Probably hoping to cast shadows over him.

That's my guess too
Doesn't seem worth it,  though.  Having joth around suspecting MiX would have been good for gkrieg.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1544 on: May 23, 2019, 09:23:19 am »

How do you feel about him challenging Chairs in this pairing? Given the number of IC’s, the pressure to challenge Chairs over Gkrieg yesterday, and the overall feeling that scum were already backed into a corner, is it really that unreasonable of him to challenge his partner banking on the town!cred generated to buy him the following two mislynches he would need to win?

I could've easily challenged gkrieg. There was pretty much no pressure. I knew I would win the challenge against both of them, so why pick my partner? Oh, right, because I'm the best busser around, starting D2 with saying Swan is scum and then NEVER FLIPPING MY STANCE all the way to his lynch. Ew, unless I did? I hope not...

Again, best busser, right here. Pro play scum, distancing myself from Swan's D1 wagon (he kinda started the Joseph thing), bussing him as hard as I could D2, then hammering Glooble for fun, then challenging chairs...I think I already told you guys the "MiX!chairs" nonsense before, it was a pretty big post in D4, feel free to check it out. It obviously points out how good I am as scum.

Is anyone going to lynch ADK over gkrieg? Because that's actually better for my survival.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1545 on: May 23, 2019, 02:24:29 pm »

Just vote gkrieg!

I would rather have Space’s analysis now, in case Gkrieg flips town and then Space dies at night.

I am flipping town. Don't know why people are rushing this so much.
What was the point of the long posts showing who was mentioned when by ADK and MiX? Did you draw any conclusions from that?

I was trying to highlight the partner interactions of ADK and MiX with their scum partners. I guess I was trying to show that either (if ADK is scum) you shouldn't give IC status based off the idea that ADK is the lynchee, or that MiX bussed his partners really hard.

One of the two must be true, so I was trying to figure out if ADK really was the lynchee, and if they weren't, what did their interactions with their partners look like, or to see if Datswan and chairs interacted with either ADK or MiX.

I'm town that is going to be lynched before anyone looks into ADK and MiX, so I was trying to make it easier to read them and their interactions with the two flipped scum.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1546 on: May 23, 2019, 02:26:53 pm »

How do you feel about him challenging Chairs in this pairing? Given the number of IC’s, the pressure to challenge Chairs over Gkrieg yesterday, and the overall feeling that scum were already backed into a corner, is it really that unreasonable of him to challenge his partner banking on the town!cred generated to buy him the following two mislynches he would need to win?

I could've easily challenged gkrieg. There was pretty much no pressure. I knew I would win the challenge against both of them, so why pick my partner? Oh, right, because I'm the best busser around, starting D2 with saying Swan is scum and then NEVER FLIPPING MY STANCE all the way to his lynch. Ew, unless I did? I hope not...

Again, best busser, right here. Pro play scum, distancing myself from Swan's D1 wagon (he kinda started the Joseph thing), bussing him as hard as I could D2, then hammering Glooble for fun, then challenging chairs...I think I already told you guys the "MiX!chairs" nonsense before, it was a pretty big post in D4, feel free to check it out. It obviously points out how good I am as scum.

Is anyone going to lynch ADK over gkrieg? Because that's actually better for my survival.

I mean bussing is a valid strategy, otherwise no one would do it...
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1547 on: May 23, 2019, 02:27:18 pm »

Just vote gkrieg!

I would rather have Space’s analysis now, in case Gkrieg flips town and then Space dies at night.

I am flipping town. Don't know why people are rushing this so much.
What was the point of the long posts showing who was mentioned when by ADK and MiX? Did you draw any conclusions from that?

I was trying to highlight the partner interactions of ADK and MiX with their scum partners. I guess I was trying to show that either (if ADK is scum) you shouldn't give IC status based off the idea that ADK is the lynchee, or that MiX bussed his partners really hard.

One of the two must be true, so I was trying to figure out if ADK really was the lynchee, and if they weren't, what did their interactions with their partners look like, or to see if Datswan and chairs interacted with either ADK or MiX.

I'm town that is going to be lynched before anyone looks into ADK and MiX, so I was trying to make it easier to read them and their interactions with the two flipped scum.
It's scummy to say "MiX voted his partner", when it's nowhere near conclusive that MiX is even scum.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1548 on: May 23, 2019, 03:04:44 pm »

Just vote gkrieg!

I would rather have Space’s analysis now, in case Gkrieg flips town and then Space dies at night.

I am flipping town. Don't know why people are rushing this so much.
What was the point of the long posts showing who was mentioned when by ADK and MiX? Did you draw any conclusions from that?

I was trying to highlight the partner interactions of ADK and MiX with their scum partners. I guess I was trying to show that either (if ADK is scum) you shouldn't give IC status based off the idea that ADK is the lynchee, or that MiX bussed his partners really hard.

One of the two must be true, so I was trying to figure out if ADK really was the lynchee, and if they weren't, what did their interactions with their partners look like, or to see if Datswan and chairs interacted with either ADK or MiX.

I'm town that is going to be lynched before anyone looks into ADK and MiX, so I was trying to make it easier to read them and their interactions with the two flipped scum.
It's scummy to say "MiX voted his partner", when it's nowhere near conclusive that MiX is even scum.

Note that I am approaching this as a hypothetical. Did you read the whole post? I also never actually said what you put in quotes, which is misleading.

The point was that when y'all lynch me today, you will have to think through the situation I just posed:

1. MiX is scum: requires that he bussed his partners very hard

2. ADK is scum: someone else was the lynchee

I'm trying to give you information (because no one seems to be rereading) so that minimal rereading is required to make that decision.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 5!)
« Reply #1549 on: May 23, 2019, 03:17:22 pm »

Just vote gkrieg!

I would rather have Space’s analysis now, in case Gkrieg flips town and then Space dies at night.

I am flipping town. Don't know why people are rushing this so much.
What was the point of the long posts showing who was mentioned when by ADK and MiX? Did you draw any conclusions from that?

I was trying to highlight the partner interactions of ADK and MiX with their scum partners. I guess I was trying to show that either (if ADK is scum) you shouldn't give IC status based off the idea that ADK is the lynchee, or that MiX bussed his partners really hard.

One of the two must be true, so I was trying to figure out if ADK really was the lynchee, and if they weren't, what did their interactions with their partners look like, or to see if Datswan and chairs interacted with either ADK or MiX.

I'm town that is going to be lynched before anyone looks into ADK and MiX, so I was trying to make it easier to read them and their interactions with the two flipped scum.
It's scummy to say "MiX voted his partner", when it's nowhere near conclusive that MiX is even scum.

Note that I am approaching this as a hypothetical. Did you read the whole post? I also never actually said what you put in quotes, which is misleading.

The point was that when y'all lynch me today, you will have to think through the situation I just posed:

1. MiX is scum: requires that he bussed his partners very hard

2. ADK is scum: someone else was the lynchee

I'm trying to give you information (because no one seems to be rereading) so that minimal rereading is required to make that decision.

Don’t feel too attacked here. I completely agree. There’s no new information forthcoming this game so I’m basically treating you as an IC that we’ll be lynching today. If you’re scum, we win. If you’re town, your input is equally as valid as any remaining IC tomorrow. You’re working with identical information as everyone else - so by all means go for it.
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Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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