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[SpaceAnemone]

My brain's a little dead rn Galz, so help me parse this: If [gkrieg/chairs/MiX] is scum and ADK is town, then scum's only hope is to get ADK mislynched, so [gkrieg/chairs/MiX] should be pushing back against the townread on ADK.

But if ADK is scum, then the townread is a godsend and scum would love to lock it in.

This makes a lot of sense. And if this were a normal day it would be a great time to start an ADK wagon, but of course our choice is now between MiX and chairs, whether we like it or not. So the question is, does the ADK question affect the MiX/chairs question. Is one of them more or less likely to be ADK's partner?

I guess the utility in talking about this stuff now is that there are more townies and ICs alive right now than there are likely to be tomorrow after a NK.

On a related note, sorry I'm being such an absent IC right now! I'll try to sink in half an hour of reading and stuff at the moment, then tomorrow night may be sparse, and Saturday night is Eurovision :-P

[chairs]

The logic pretzeling is real

[jotheonah]

The logic pretzeling is real

Are you at all concerned about your impending lynch?

[SpaceAnemone]

Was the main part of the argument for ADK being town that someone thought that Joseph was voting there a lot?

Here's the list of Joseph's votes, in case it's helpful in picking out a VT:

Votes "Space" at 20.
Votes "ADK" at 106.
Votes "chairs" at 165.
Votes "galz" at 364.
Votes "joth" at 420.
Votes "ADK" at 438.
Votes "mix" at 485.
Votes "ADK" at 529.
Votes "joth" at 590.

That's two joth votes, three ADK votes. His assorted other votes include me and galz, who are non-VTs (or at least, I abbreviate to VT, but the V is not vanilla!), so I don't think it says much about the assumed innocence of anyone else on that list, like chairs or MiX. Of the currently-alive people, the missing one is gkrieg, so I guess he's probably not the lynchee, but that's probably not terribly significant.

[SpaceAnemone]

Mods: may I post a coloured-in voting-history log?

EFHW asked for voting records at the end of D3, but the game had hit the night phase before I caught up.

[Uncleeurope]

Mods: may I post a coloured-in voting-history log?

EFHW asked for voting records at the end of D3, but the game had hit the night phase before I caught up.

Uncleeurope didn’t mind.

He was fairly certain the Mod colors were the only ones that were banned.

[jotheonah]

I can't believe we still have 4 days left in this day that has ground to a halt.

[MiX]

I can't believe we still have 4 days left in this day that has ground to a halt.

Mostly because you want to entertain the idea that I can be scum. I guess I understand, but chairs is a much better lynch anyway.

[gkrieg13]

I'm waiting for Space to post stuff.

[gkrieg13]

The logic pretzeling is real

This does seem like chairs has stopped trying.

[jotheonah]

I can't believe we still have 4 days left in this day that has ground to a halt.

Mostly because you want to entertain the idea that I can be scum. I guess I understand, but chairs is a much better lynch anyway.

You know if you would stop being so scummy it would help a lot.

[MiX]

I can't believe we still have 4 days left in this day that has ground to a halt.

Mostly because you want to entertain the idea that I can be scum. I guess I understand, but chairs is a much better lynch anyway.

You know if you would stop being so scummy it would help a lot.

I'm actually doing everything I can to make everyone be able to read me as best as they can in hope they figure out I'm town, but I guess it makes sense that I'm actually scum because I say a lot of "jokes" that are mostly useless banter, especially from D3 on. There's not a lot I can do in terms of reads and cracking the game, at least that don't assume I'm town, and even that I already did, but since I'm town a lot of speculation goes away. I don't know how to stop "being so scummy" but maybe this serious reply to an obvious-in-retrospect joke helps.

[jotheonah]

I guess it makes sense that I'm actually scum

--MiX

[MiX]

I guess it makes sense that I'm actually scum

--MiX

Sigh...okay I get it I won't persuade you. Meh.

[EFHW]

I can't believe we still have 4 days left in this day that has ground to a halt.

Mostly because you want to entertain the idea that I can be scum. I guess I understand, but chairs is a much better lynch anyway.

You know if you would stop being so scummy it would help a lot.

You seem scummy to me. So does Galz. But mostly likely I'm wrong. gkrieg seems towny.  Probably wrong there, too.

[chairs]

FWIW I think it’s Town Galz. Don’t have much else to say atm.

[jotheonah]

People who have played with chairs ... does scum!chairs just give up like this when he's overwhelmingly likely to be lynched? that feels much more like a town thing to me.

People who are voting chairs: Do you really think he's scum? Do you just think he's scummier then MiX? Is this all just PoE?

[EFHW]

People who have played with chairs ... does scum!chairs just give up like this when he's overwhelmingly likely to be lynched? that feels much more like a town thing to me.

People who are voting chairs: Do you really think he's scum? Do you just think he's scummier then MiX? Is this all just PoE?

I'm thinking about the VCA Glooble did. I don't think I've seen him fight as town or scum. I also have a strong townread on MiX. Maybe his appeals to emotion worked on me, but I don't have any reason to vote him.

[MiX]

Yay emotion! I usually prefer cold hard deduction but emotion's so much better as town since you know it will eventually be a towntell.

[A Drowned Kernel]

People who have played with chairs ... does scum!chairs just give up like this when he's overwhelmingly likely to be lynched? that feels much more like a town thing to me.

People who are voting chairs: Do you really think he's scum? Do you just think he's scummier then MiX? Is this all just PoE?

It's not all just PoE. chairs had lurked all game, and with his life on the line doesn't seem to be making any real attempt to make a case on mix. Mix has been much more active and all his weirdness seems to me like it's more likely to be town mix than not.

[jotheonah]

"with his life on the line doesn't seem to be making any real attempt to make a case on mix."

This is what worries me. Seems townie.

[jotheonah]

could we get a vote count?

[Uncleeurope]

Vote Count 4.2

"Why does everything have to be so boring."

Uncleeurope was bored.

"I hate this."

He hated this.

MiX (2):	VS	chairs (3):
jotheonah		MiX
chairs		EFHW
		A Drowned Kernel

Not voting (3): Galzria, SpaceAnemone, gkrieg13


With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Day 4 ends 20th of May, 9:30 am ft.

[A Drowned Kernel]

"with his life on the line doesn't seem to be making any real attempt to make a case on mix."

This is what worries me. Seems townie.

I mean, if the scum team is chairs/gkrieg, then they might feel like their only real hope is to go quiet and let people paranoid-talk themselves into switching to mix. chairs has a pretty lurky meta already, so I'm betting that scum!chairs would be banking on that saving him here.

[jotheonah]

"with his life on the line doesn't seem to be making any real attempt to make a case on mix."

This is what worries me. Seems townie.

I mean, if the scum team is chairs/gkrieg, then they might feel like their only real hope is to go quiet and let people paranoid-talk themselves into switching to mix. chairs has a pretty lurky meta already, so I'm betting that scum!chairs would be banking on that saving him here.

This seems like a stretch.