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[MiX]

What part of this is confusing to people? I feel like I’m not expressing myself well.

Your plan is only perfect if there were 4 people in the bigger lynch pool: then we could afford to lynch them all. We have exactly 2 possible mislynches, but 5 people on lynch pool, which means we can't just lynch people based on "what if Galz is actually scum?", we cannot waste time killing town.

[Glooble]

What part of this is confusing to people? I feel like I’m not expressing myself well.

Your plan is only perfect if there were 4 people in the bigger lynch pool: then we could afford to lynch them all. We have exactly 2 possible mislynches, but 5 people on lynch pool, which means we can't just lynch people based on "what if Galz is actually scum?", we cannot waste time killing town.

Which is the beauty of you being in both lynch pools. Lynching you now maximizes or chances.

[MiX]

What part of this is confusing to people? I feel like I’m not expressing myself well.

Your plan is only perfect if there were 4 people in the bigger lynch pool: then we could afford to lynch them all. We have exactly 2 possible mislynches, but 5 people on lynch pool, which means we can't just lynch people based on "what if Galz is actually scum?", we cannot waste time killing town.

Which is the beauty of you being in both lynch pools. Lynching you now maximizes or chances.

Only if you disregard reads. Galz is pretty towny and so am I, me being in both lynch pools doesn't mean I'm scummier than the rest.

[Glooble]

Someone please give me a case for MiX being town that doesn’t rely on Galz being town.

[Glooble]

All my other points aside, look at the way MiX tries to just slide himself onto the list of ICs based on nothing and tell me what’s towny about that?

[MiX]

Someone please give me a case for MiX being town that doesn’t rely on Galz being town.

Can I do this? Maybe I'll actually put in effort!

[jotheonah]

vote: MiX

I 100% agree with everything my twin is saying.

[gkrieg13]

vote: MiX

He was scummy from the start anyway.

[A Drowned Kernel]

vote: MiX

I 100% agree with everything my twin is saying.

Here's the thing: pushing mix is exactly what scum!glooble needs to do right at this moment. There's a very small pool of people that are still viable lynches, and mix and galz are teetering at the edge of that pool.

Glooble's posts here are very consistent with the idea that he's putting everything he has into getting one of them lynched while he still can; then if he goes down tomorrow, his other partner (gkrieg or chairs) would hopefully make it through lylo.

I think this is just caught scum being desperate.

vote: glooble

[jotheonah]

vote: MiX

I 100% agree with everything my twin is saying.

Here's the thing: pushing mix is exactly what scum!glooble needs to do right at this moment. There's a very small pool of people that are still viable lynches, and mix and galz are teetering at the edge of that pool.

Glooble's posts here are very consistent with the idea that he's putting everything he has into getting one of them lynched while he still can; then if he goes down tomorrow, his other partner (gkrieg or chairs) would hopefully make it through lylo.

I think this is just caught scum being desperate.

vote: glooble

I respect that take. But what do we do tomorrow if he flips town? We're back where we were. He's right about MiX being the most informational lynch.

[EFHW]

Vote Count 1.final


MiX (2): Glooble, gkrieg13
A Drowned Kernel (1): mcmcsalot
jotheonah (5): chairs, Galzria, arishipshape, Joseph2302, MiX
Joseph2302 (6): SpaceAnemone, DatSwan, EFHW, faust, jotheonah, A Drowned Kernel

Not voting (0):


With 14 alive, it took 6 to lynch.

vote:chairs

It seems likely that at the end of day 1 when the main two lynch options were joth and Joseph, there would be at least one scum on each. That would make either chairs or MiX scum. And I really do think MiX is likely town.

What happened with this? It seems like Glooble has done a complete 180.

[EFHW]

I'm so disappointed Space wasn't scum.

[EFHW]

What information do we get if MiX flips town? If he flips scum? It seems to me that we'll still have inconclusive suppositions.

[jotheonah]

What information do we get if MiX flips town? If he flips scum? It seems to me that we'll still have inconclusive suppositions.

We'll either win or rule out this MiX-Galz theory, which Glooble and I see as highly plausible.

[Galzria]

What information do we get if MiX flips town? If he flips scum? It seems to me that we'll still have inconclusive suppositions.

If he (or anybody), flips scum, it proves I’m town. The point Joth is making is that he’s concerned about a Galz/MiX scum team where I’m the scum!Traitor that was protecting Scum!Promoter MiX (note that it DOESN’T work the other way around because Scum!Promoter!Galz wouldn’t know MiX was Traitor).

The biggest problem with that theory is that 100% of my play from D1 is consistent with me being the promoter, regardless of what you think my alignment to be.

If MiX flips town, we gain nothing except a wasted day, and an IC (Faust) killed at night - and no actual new information, as I could STILL be scum!Promoter in this scenario, and I would be forced to set up a gladiator for tomorrow where the correct play, in all honesty, would be to challenge & lynch me to rule that out.

This buys Glooble two mislynch’s - me/MiX, and the ability to kill Faust/EFHW at night. This leaves the game:

IC!Space
Glooble, ADK, Joth, Chairs, Gkrieg

With 2 scum alive, that’s MyLo.

[Galzria]

Joth would also be IC. So:

IC!Space, IC!Joth
ADK, Glooble, Chairs, Gkrieg

In MyLo.

[faust]

The lynch should probably get a say as well, since if they flip town they'll be an IC.

I'm planning to lynch scum today.

[Galzria]

The lynch should probably get a say as well, since if they flip town they'll be an IC.

I'm planning to lynch scum today.

[faust]

My preferred Gladiator pick I think is gkrieg. That is, if we lynch Glooble. Otherwise of course Glooble.

[faust]

I'd like to hear faust's case on Glooble.

I'm feeling it.

I think it comes down to Galz and MiX being reasonably towny, chairs as well. I think Glooble's jump on the DatSwan wagon was late, awkward, and then after the fakeclaim he goes on to push for a joth lynch, but phrases it as a question which is super shady. Then today he does pretty much exactly what I expect scum to do here, as ADK pointed out. Oh ADK is also towny by the way.

[Glooble]

MiX and Galz are playing all of you and I hope when I flip town you will see that.

[Glooble]

For what iits worth I agree that ADK is towny, so if MiX’s partner isn’t Galz it’s probably chairs or Gkrieg. So you should be okay even if you mislynch me. I just feel bad about costing town what could have been a perfect game.

[faust]

MiX and Galz are playing all of you and I hope when I flip town you will see that.

I have to say that upon further consideration I regret not having tracked one of them. I think the way the game was going had me overconfident and not thinking enough.

I can say it now, I tracked Space. So it doesn't even give any further info.

[faust]

Meh, looking at D1 around the time we got the MiX wagon it actually kinda makes sense with Galz and DatSwan as partners.

unvote

[EFHW]

For what iits worth I agree that ADK is towny, so if MiX’s partner isn’t Galz it’s probably chairs or Gkrieg. So you should be okay even if you mislynch me. I just feel bad about costing town what could have been a perfect game.

vote: Glooble