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[EFHW]

Town!DatSwan is more likely to talk off the top of his head in rapid fire deductions, sometimes going astray. But I'd still vote him over joth. I'll reread a few people, see if I have a better suggestion.

[MiX]

Town!DatSwan is more likely to talk off the top of his head in rapid fire deductions, sometimes going astray. But I'd still vote him over joth. I'll reread a few people, see if I have a better suggestion.

I can't see Swan doing all of these mistakes...at all. So my gut tells me "scum, scum, obv!scum!', but I have no idea if that means Swan is scum...

There's probably a better answer for "who should be challenged", which is: almost everyone. But I like the Swan.

Vote: gkrieg for being the weakest link.

[jotheonah]

Swan’s “Mistakes” read a lot like scum trying to sow confusion because town is too close to figuring it all out.

What’s the case on gkrieg? He’s a PoE choice. I’m not challenging a PoE choice, it’s the worst kind of case. Someone give me something real to go on and I’ll consider it.

[EFHW]

I actually just reread gkrieg, and can't support a wagon on him. Here's the blow-by-blow

28 RVS Joseph
45 Tells ari to chill re: RVS Joseph [ari seemed to take it literally]
47 RVS Space
162 Agrees with faust, disagrees with joth, vig is better than promoter because gives a town-controlled kill.
163 v. MiX for joth vote.

388 MiX a bit scummy for post expressing no reads, low effort
390 townpoints to joth for seeing ari as scummy
392 Doesn't remember faust being coy before. [This is weird to me. faust does things without explaining all the time.]
393 Sometimes good to lie as town [I'd policy vote him for this, but not scummy]
394 Disagrees with ari voting faust.
396 joth is scummy for townreading faust [I didn't understand this one]
397 "Lol, this is the Spaceiest thing that has ever Spaced.  <3"
398

Vote: ari

Perfectly timed bus. Well-done.

Is it bad if I agree with you, but also kind of think you are scum?

399 ari is showing OMGUS
400 explaining his absences
401 His reads change quickly
402 Would jump on the Joseph traitor slip except that it was Joseph.
403 criticizes MiX
407 Townreads: faust, space, Joseph, chairs, EFHW. Scumreads: MiX, Ari, ADK b/c of faust's case
408 Accepts Space's explanation for why faust crotchety.
495 v. ari
496 v. MiX. Doesn't explain switch
579 Scumreads: MiX, ADK, ari

733 We don't have a jester

875 defends himself.

[EFHW]

joth, have you considered ari?

[MiX]

Swan’s “Mistakes” read a lot like scum trying to sow confusion because town is too close to figuring it all out.

What’s the case on gkrieg? He’s a PoE choice. I’m not challenging a PoE choice, it’s the worst kind of case. Someone give me something real to go on and I’ll consider it.

There is no case on gkrieg...just that faust told me he's good as town and I haven't seen that at all. But given he hasn't done anything it's more NAI than anything.

In the end, this is your decision, mostly because there's a very very very slim chance you're scum so I have no reason to tell you what town knows. I'm fine with Swan.

[EFHW]

Partway through ari reread. His main themes are: How town should play; How he is playing; That he is town, not scum like last time. Trying to contribute but feels like he's running out of things to do. Nullish so far. I'm taking a break for now.

[Swowl]

I feel like people are reading my words and not understanding my logic, or at least the wording of it.

As I stated, i do not think the concept of having every player that is potentially going to be targeted as a gladiator claim is a good idea. So i will not be claiming at this time.

I also, after a read, don’t really have a super case to make on anyone outside of what i have said.

The players that are painting me skummy by pretending they think i am confused based on how i type... are in fact skummy. I play this way 100% of the time. It is not towny, or skummy. Only played a few with mix, but makes me suspect EFHW.

[MiX]

The players that are painting me skummy by pretending they think i am confused based on how i type... are in fact skummy. I play this way 100% of the time. It is not towny, or skummy. Only played a few with mix, but makes me suspect EFHW.

Hold on...didn't EFHW defend you? She even said you're "town > scum", why is she scummy?

[Swowl]

I feel like people are reading my words and not understanding my logic, or at least the wording of it.

As I stated, i do not think the concept of having every player that is potentially going to be targeted as a gladiator claim is a good idea. So i will not be claiming at this time.

I also, after a read, don’t really have a super case to make on anyone outside of what i have said.

The players that are painting me skummy by pretending they think i am confused based on how i type... are in fact skummy. I play this way 100% of the time. It is not towny, or skummy. Only played a few with mix, but makes me suspect EFHW.

Hm actually I guess not so much actually. I read the part where she said swan>Joth, but missed the swan town>skum part.

[Swowl]

The players that are painting me skummy by pretending they think i am confused based on how i type... are in fact skummy. I play this way 100% of the time. It is not towny, or skummy. Only played a few with mix, but makes me suspect EFHW.

Hold on...didn't EFHW defend you? She even said you're "town > scum", why is she scummy?

Yeah mb i am reading backwards on my phone - see most recent

[MiX]

I also, after a read, don’t really have a super case to make on anyone outside of what i have said.

If you had to pick from {ADK, Glooble, gkrieg, EFHW, ari, Space, chairs} to challenge, who would it be?

[MiX]

1) All the skum is within [Ari, Swan, Chairs, ADK, GK, Glooble, Space, EFHW]... which is either 2/8 or 3/8
2) Some amount of skum is within the same pool, and another is within [Joth, Mix, Galz, faust]

Why is it either 2/8 or 3/8?

[Swowl]

1) All the skum is within [Ari, Swan, Chairs, ADK, GK, Glooble, Space, EFHW]... which is either 2/8 or 3/8
2) Some amount of skum is within the same pool, and another is within [Joth, Mix, Galz, faust]

Why is it either 2/8 or 3/8?

Just separating the traitor out. Technically it is 3/8 either way.

[Swowl]

I also, after a read, don’t really have a super case to make on anyone outside of what i have said.

If you had to pick from {ADK, Glooble, gkrieg, EFHW, ari, Space, chairs} to challenge, who would it be?

Not really a question that matters, as I am not the one doing the choosing.

[MiX]

I also, after a read, don’t really have a super case to make on anyone outside of what i have said.

If you had to pick from {ADK, Glooble, gkrieg, EFHW, ari, Space, chairs} to challenge, who would it be?

Not really a question that matters, as I am not the one doing the choosing.

How about...if you had mind control powers over joth, and joth is town, who would you make him pick? Or really, what is your top scumread, I'm pretty sure joth will pick you so you might as well defend yourself now, pick is lynch, I can't see anyone voting joth over you.

[faust]

Swan’s “Mistakes” read a lot like scum trying to sow confusion because town is too close to figuring it all out.

I think scum doesn't do that often.

[MiX]

1) All the skum is within [Ari, Swan, Chairs, ADK, GK, Glooble, Space, EFHW]... which is either 2/8 or 3/8
2) Some amount of skum is within the same pool, and another is within [Joth, Mix, Galz, faust]

Why is it either 2/8 or 3/8?

Just separating the traitor out. Technically it is 3/8 either way.

Hold on, I just saw a contradiction here. It is impossible for the Traitor to lie there AND to be 2 scum there. I believe this mistake comes more from scum that absolutely know there IS no Traitor. How do you explain this Swan?

Swan’s “Mistakes” read a lot like scum trying to sow confusion because town is too close to figuring it all out.

I think scum doesn't do that often.

Do you think Swan's getting everything about the setup wrong as town? Because that would be according to his meta for sure, something scum!Swan would love to do as well.

[faust]

I can't see anyone voting joth over you.

I would.

[MiX]

I can't see anyone voting joth over you.

I would.

I would ask why, but you're the IC. Do you wish to state why you believe joth is scum?

[faust]

Swan’s “Mistakes” read a lot like scum trying to sow confusion because town is too close to figuring it all out.

I think scum doesn't do that often.

Do you think Swan's getting everything about the setup wrong as town? Because that would be according to his meta for sure, something scum!Swan would love to do as well.

I think it serves no purposes for scum!Swan to throw around wrong info as there are enough savvy people around that it will be figured out in no time. So he got it wrong genuinely or just to towncred himself, where I think the former is more likely because it's really not that much of a source of towncred anyways.

[faust]

I can't see anyone voting joth over you.

I would.

I would ask why, but you're the IC. Do you wish to state why you believe joth is scum?

I think he's throwing around his challengee target at a lot of people in order to draw as many claims as possible.

[Swowl]

1) All the skum is within [Ari, Swan, Chairs, ADK, GK, Glooble, Space, EFHW]... which is either 2/8 or 3/8
2) Some amount of skum is within the same pool, and another is within [Joth, Mix, Galz, faust]

Why is it either 2/8 or 3/8?

Just separating the traitor out. Technically it is 3/8 either way.

Hold on, I just saw a contradiction here. It is impossible for the Traitor to lie there AND to be 2 scum there. I believe this mistake comes more from scum that absolutely know there IS no Traitor. How do you explain this Swan?

Swan’s “Mistakes” read a lot like scum trying to sow confusion because town is too close to figuring it all out.

I think scum doesn't do that often.

Do you think Swan's getting everything about the setup wrong as town? Because that would be according to his meta for sure, something scum!Swan would love to do as well.

You are parsing 2 different trains of my thought together. All i Did was point out the maximum potential amount of skum -  could be 2 skum in the pool or 3 skum in the pool.

[MiX]

1) All the skum is within [Ari, Swan, Chairs, ADK, GK, Glooble, Space, EFHW]... which is either 2/8 or 3/8
2) Some amount of skum is within the same pool, and another is within [Joth, Mix, Galz, faust]

Why is it either 2/8 or 3/8?

Just separating the traitor out. Technically it is 3/8 either way.

Hold on, I just saw a contradiction here. It is impossible for the Traitor to lie there AND to be 2 scum there. I believe this mistake comes more from scum that absolutely know there IS no Traitor. How do you explain this Swan?

You are parsing 2 different trains of my thought together. All i Did was point out the maximum potential amount of skum -  could be 2 skum in the pool or 3 skum in the pool.

Then why did you answer the first question with "separating the traitor out"?

[jotheonah]

challenge: DatSwan

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