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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #450 on: April 30, 2019, 09:18:02 am »

MiX is coming off scummier and scummier. A lot of his posting seems very self-aware, there's a post back there where he outrights says he doesn't want to vote for mcmc because it "seems OMGUS-y". My original vote on MiX was based on some partner-y interaction bullshit that looking back on I realize didn't make sense but I'm happy with my vote there now.

What do you mean by self-aware here? Yes, I know how my posts sound to everyone else, since you tell me your opinions on them, so I can infer what future posts will look like. What was your original reason to vote me?

My original vote was based on interactions with you and joth, that I thought looked partnery, which looking back on it, they weren't. And now looking back at it now, I think I was reading too much into a couple of comments you made. So, meh.

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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #451 on: April 30, 2019, 09:20:10 am »

I think dissolving the MiX wagon is a mistake, for the record, but I'm also fine with vote: ari and I like it a lot better than ADK.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #452 on: April 30, 2019, 09:24:29 am »

I think dissolving the MiX wagon is a mistake, for the record, but I'm also fine with vote: ari and I like it a lot better than ADK.

What makes you think an ari lynch is better than an ADK lynch? Also, ewwww on ari votes, unless he completely revolutionizes his scum meta we'll get him by D3, don't worry.
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« Reply #453 on: April 30, 2019, 09:31:34 am »

Oh shit. I just assumed it was pm for some reason. I still think MiX is the scummiest so I'mma stay here for now but I guess if it falls apart completely in the next few hours I'll move my vote someplace else.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #454 on: April 30, 2019, 09:33:14 am »

I think dissolving the MiX wagon is a mistake, for the record, but I'm also fine with vote: ari and I like it a lot better than ADK.
What about Joseph?
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #455 on: April 30, 2019, 09:34:38 am »

I think dissolving the MiX wagon is a mistake, for the record, but I'm also fine with vote: ari and I like it a lot better than ADK.
What about Joseph?

I could live with it. The two people voting there now are town reads, and he is not. But I like ari better.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #456 on: April 30, 2019, 09:37:24 am »

MiX is coming off scummier and scummier. A lot of his posting seems very self-aware, there's a post back there where he outrights says he doesn't want to vote for mcmc because it "seems OMGUS-y". My original vote on MiX was based on some partner-y interaction bullshit that looking back on I realize didn't make sense but I'm happy with my vote there now.

What do you mean by self-aware here? Yes, I know how my posts sound to everyone else, since you tell me your opinions on them, so I can infer what future posts will look like. What was your original reason to vote me?

My original vote was based on interactions with you and joth, that I thought looked partnery, which looking back on it, they weren't. And now looking back at it now, I think I was reading too much into a couple of comments you made. So, meh.

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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #457 on: April 30, 2019, 09:42:04 am »

I think dissolving the MiX wagon is a mistake, for the record, but I'm also fine with vote: ari and I like it a lot better than ADK.

What makes you think an ari lynch is better than an ADK lynch? Also, ewwww on ari votes, unless he completely revolutionizes his scum meta we'll get him by D3, don't worry.

Because I think ari is more likely to be scum than ADK? I don't understand the question.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #458 on: April 30, 2019, 10:13:07 am »

MiX is coming off scummier and scummier. A lot of his posting seems very self-aware, there's a post back there where he outrights says he doesn't want to vote for mcmc because it "seems OMGUS-y". My original vote on MiX was based on some partner-y interaction bullshit that looking back on I realize didn't make sense but I'm happy with my vote there now.

What do you mean by self-aware here? Yes, I know how my posts sound to everyone else, since you tell me your opinions on them, so I can infer what future posts will look like. What was your original reason to vote me?

My original vote was based on interactions with you and joth, that I thought looked partnery, which looking back on it, they weren't. And now looking back at it now, I think I was reading too much into a couple of comments you made. So, meh.

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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #459 on: April 30, 2019, 10:35:39 am »

For the record, I don't think that Joseph is a great lunch
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #460 on: April 30, 2019, 10:40:49 am »

For the record, I don't think that Joseph is a great lunch

I fear that you or me die this day: if you had to, who would you vote? Quoting this because Joseph seems to be a viable lynch as well.
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« Reply #461 on: April 30, 2019, 10:43:34 am »

I think dissolving the MiX wagon is a mistake, for the record, but I'm also fine with vote: ari and I like it a lot better than ADK.

What makes you think an ari lynch is better than an ADK lynch? Also, ewwww on ari votes, unless he completely revolutionizes his scum meta we'll get him by D3, don't worry.

Because I think ari is more likely to be scum than ADK? I don't understand the question.

Well why is this the case? I've heard your ari case but why is ADK less scummy?

Also, I'll be here untill 10 hours to deadline. I might wake up right before deadline but I doubt it.
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« Reply #462 on: April 30, 2019, 10:49:15 am »

MiX feels pretty much the same as he did in the only other game I played: he was town. However, I was scum that game, so coulda been biased because I totally knew what he was. But still. I'm not getting on the MiX wagon.

Your last post was also a defense of me; I get it, it won a game for you, but instead of defending me you should find a scumread and push it. You haven't done much with your vote, seems like you ran out of things to do.
My scumread is Faust. But I tried gunning against him, and look how that worked out. Everybody saying "Your case sucks" and with no reasons why (except SpaceAnemone, who addressed my dislike of meta rather than the case itself). So I did run out of things to do. I can't attack my scumread, I can't defend my townread. I'm gonna iso ADK and see whether I like lynching him. And I'll be here till about 5 hours to deadline, if it's 5:30 AM.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #463 on: April 30, 2019, 10:49:50 am »

For the record, I don't think that Joseph is a great lunch

I fear that you or me die this day: if you had to, who would you vote? Quoting this because Joseph seems to be a viable lynch as well.

Are you asking who I would vote between you and me? You, obviously, but I don't think we should get in the mindset of lynching in a subset of players. Anything's possible with a plurality lynch.
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« Reply #464 on: April 30, 2019, 10:55:21 am »

MiX feels pretty much the same as he did in the only other game I played: he was town. However, I was scum that game, so coulda been biased because I totally knew what he was. But still. I'm not getting on the MiX wagon.

Your last post was also a defense of me; I get it, it won a game for you, but instead of defending me you should find a scumread and push it. You haven't done much with your vote, seems like you ran out of things to do.
My scumread is Faust. But I tried gunning against him, and look how that worked out. Everybody saying "Your case sucks" and with no reasons why (except SpaceAnemone, who addressed my dislike of meta rather than the case itself). So I did run out of things to do. I can't attack my scumread, I can't defend my townread. I'm gonna iso ADK and see whether I like lynching him. And I'll be here till about 5 hours to deadline, if it's 5:30 AM.

Get. More. Scum. Reads. Please? You did last time (in a very fake way, really) so I know you can do the same.

For the record, I don't think that Joseph is a great lunch

I fear that you or me die this day: if you had to, who would you vote? Quoting this because Joseph seems to be a viable lynch as well.

Are you asking who I would vote between you and me? You, obviously, but I don't think we should get in the mindset of lynching in a subset of players. Anything's possible with a plurality lynch.

No, I'm asking, if you had to vote someone right now, who would that be? I understand that you're not ready, but at this point I want more from you.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #465 on: April 30, 2019, 10:58:50 am »

I think dissolving the MiX wagon is a mistake, for the record, but I'm also fine with vote: ari and I like it a lot better than ADK.

What makes you think an ari lynch is better than an ADK lynch? Also, ewwww on ari votes, unless he completely revolutionizes his scum meta we'll get him by D3, don't worry.

Because I think ari is more likely to be scum than ADK? I don't understand the question.

Well why is this the case? I've heard your ari case but why is ADK less scummy?

*sigh*

I have concrete reasons to believe ari is scum (did a thing which is a personal scum tell, case on faust feels fake, the whole weird buddying/defending thing you two have going on). I have only abstract reasons to believe ADK might be (feels off, voting patterns are trending toward opportunistic). Honestly, my read on ADK is more null than scum.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #466 on: April 30, 2019, 11:00:05 am »


Get. More. Scum. Reads. Please? You did last time (in a very fake way, really) so I know you can do the same.


Wait what? Making up fake scum reads as scum and coming up with actual scum reads as town are completely different skill sets. How does his ability to do one tell you anything about his ability to do the other?
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« Reply #467 on: April 30, 2019, 11:08:58 am »

Iso'd ADK, he kept me accountable on many of my worse points, and forced me to answer a question I missed. He also seems generally townie IMHO. Here's another wagon I'm not getting on, without a good case or something. Faust, order these from most to least scummy: Me, MiX, ADK, Joseph. And before anyone says "But Ari, you said Faust was your scumread!" I KNOW. Faust still is.
MiX feels pretty much the same as he did in the only other game I played: he was town. However, I was scum that game, so coulda been biased because I totally knew what he was. But still. I'm not getting on the MiX wagon.

Your last post was also a defense of me; I get it, it won a game for you, but instead of defending me you should find a scumread and push it. You haven't done much with your vote, seems like you ran out of things to do.
My scumread is Faust. But I tried gunning against him, and look how that worked out. Everybody saying "Your case sucks" and with no reasons why (except SpaceAnemone, who addressed my dislike of meta rather than the case itself). So I did run out of things to do. I can't attack my scumread, I can't defend my townread. I'm gonna iso ADK and see whether I like lynching him. And I'll be here till about 5 hours to deadline, if it's 5:30 AM.

Get. More. Scum. Reads. Please? You did last time (in a very fake way, really) so I know you can do the same.
Jothenoah has arbitrarily hated me all game. Did an iso, not liking it to much. I wont get more specific, because obviously that would help scum.
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Re: M122: Lalight's run out of ideas Mafia (Day 1!)
« Reply #468 on: April 30, 2019, 11:13:25 am »


Get. More. Scum. Reads. Please? You did last time (in a very fake way, really) so I know you can do the same.


Wait what? Making up fake scum reads as scum and coming up with actual scum reads as town are completely different skill sets. How does his ability to do one tell you anything about his ability to do the other?

It's a pretty bad joke, but I'm still proud of it. The point was that ari's been through been asked to have more scumreads by me.


Who's a player that hasn't been talked about at all today? I want to lynch them.
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« Reply #469 on: April 30, 2019, 11:18:18 am »

Iso'd ADK, he kept me accountable on many of my worse points, and forced me to answer a question I missed. He also seems generally townie IMHO. Here's another wagon I'm not getting on, without a good case or something. Faust, order these from most to least scummy: Me, MiX, ADK, Joseph. And before anyone says "But Ari, you said Faust was your scumread!" I KNOW. Faust still is.
MiX feels pretty much the same as he did in the only other game I played: he was town. However, I was scum that game, so coulda been biased because I totally knew what he was. But still. I'm not getting on the MiX wagon.

Your last post was also a defense of me; I get it, it won a game for you, but instead of defending me you should find a scumread and push it. You haven't done much with your vote, seems like you ran out of things to do.
My scumread is Faust. But I tried gunning against him, and look how that worked out. Everybody saying "Your case sucks" and with no reasons why (except SpaceAnemone, who addressed my dislike of meta rather than the case itself). So I did run out of things to do. I can't attack my scumread, I can't defend my townread. I'm gonna iso ADK and see whether I like lynching him. And I'll be here till about 5 hours to deadline, if it's 5:30 AM.

Get. More. Scum. Reads. Please? You did last time (in a very fake way, really) so I know you can do the same.
Jothenoah has arbitrarily hated me all game. Did an iso, not liking it to much. I wont get more specific, because obviously that would help scum.

1. It's not arbitrary
2. I don't hate you
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« Reply #470 on: April 30, 2019, 11:18:39 am »


Get. More. Scum. Reads. Please? You did last time (in a very fake way, really) so I know you can do the same.


Wait what? Making up fake scum reads as scum and coming up with actual scum reads as town are completely different skill sets. How does his ability to do one tell you anything about his ability to do the other?

It's a pretty bad joke, but I'm still proud of it. The point was that ari's been through been asked to have more scumreads by me.


Who's a player that hasn't been talked about at all today? I want to lynch them.

chairs?
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« Reply #471 on: April 30, 2019, 11:21:28 am »

1. It's not arbitrary
2. I don't hate you

I want to emphasize #2 here because I know I can be a little harsh sometimes in-game, but at the end of the day it is just a game and as a human being I like you just fine and think you're very nice.
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« Reply #472 on: April 30, 2019, 11:31:58 am »

1. It's not arbitrary
2. I don't hate you

I want to emphasize #2 here because I know I can be a little harsh sometimes in-game, but at the end of the day it is just a game and as a human being I like you just fine and think you're very nice.
Apologies. "Hate" was an unnecessarily strong word, and it didn't apply. I think you're fine and nice as well. What I meant to say was you've been arbitrarily considering me to be scum all game. Vote: Chairs Why? I know why: I'm just not gonna say it. ...Fine, it's because we haven't talked about him all game and I want to spark discussion.
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« Reply #473 on: April 30, 2019, 11:33:41 am »

1. It's not arbitrary
2. I don't hate you

I want to emphasize #2 here because I know I can be a little harsh sometimes in-game, but at the end of the day it is just a game and as a human being I like you just fine and think you're very nice.
Apologies. "Hate" was an unnecessarily strong word, and it didn't apply. I think you're fine and nice as well. What I meant to say was you've been arbitrarily considering me to be scum all game. Vote: Chairs Why? I know why: I'm just not gonna say it. ...Fine, it's because we haven't talked about him all game and I want to spark discussion.

There won't be a discussion this close to deadline. My thought was: why is everyone on the viable lynch pool very towny and/or joth? And I feel like the answer is there's scum in whoever we haven't even touched yet.
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« Reply #474 on: April 30, 2019, 11:41:34 am »

1. It's not arbitrary
2. I don't hate you

I want to emphasize #2 here because I know I can be a little harsh sometimes in-game, but at the end of the day it is just a game and as a human being I like you just fine and think you're very nice.
Apologies. "Hate" was an unnecessarily strong word, and it didn't apply. I think you're fine and nice as well. What I meant to say was you've been arbitrarily considering me to be scum all game. Vote: Chairs Why? I know why: I'm just not gonna say it. ...Fine, it's because we haven't talked about him all game and I want to spark discussion.

There won't be a discussion this close to deadline. My thought was: why is everyone on the viable lynch pool very towny and/or joth? And I feel like the answer is there's scum in whoever we haven't even touched yet.
We haven't touched Faust. Everybody just takes his towniness as guaranteed. And I disagree regarding discussion: we've got a day, I think we can at least make something we can look back on in later days, even if we don't lynch chairs today.
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