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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #750 on: May 19, 2019, 10:46:32 am »

Is anyone else following mix's logic?

Do you believe Awaclus is town?

I'm leaning that way. Right now I'm at the point where I honestly want to lynch Faust.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #751 on: May 19, 2019, 10:48:38 am »

Who has the sugar bowl now?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #752 on: May 19, 2019, 10:49:11 am »

Is anyone else following mix's logic?

That's a hard no from me.

Okay, let's take a look at what we know:

- ADK is town
- ash is town
- If Awaclus is town, shraeye is town
- If shraeye is town, raerae is town
- If raerae is town, shraeye is town

If we believe all of these, and we believe Awaclus is town, then there's only 5 possible people that can be scum. Since I'm town, I can lower this to 4. Since I do believe Awaclus is town, I think scum's in {Uncle, faust, Swan, mcmc, MiX}.

...Or I'm trusting the shraeye/raerae situation too much? Anyway, that's my logic.

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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #753 on: May 19, 2019, 10:49:57 am »

It rhymed, that's how weirdly it was written. It wasn't straightforward, in fact I might've gotten some things wrong. I...think it's a bit meta to say if I think whoever sent it would write it like that, this would probably be a clue to whoever sent it, which is something I have no reason to out right now. If the sender is scum, I don't think they would dare saying a fellow scumbuddy is scum, so I trust that ash's town completely.

Bold should be "scumbuddy is town"

It rhymed, and as far as you can tell, it was the player who wrote it that way, not the mods?

And just to clarify further, the reason why we're supposed to believe that ash is town is that you think scum wouldn't lie, but as far as you can tell, they could?

Precisely.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #754 on: May 19, 2019, 10:50:41 am »

Is anyone else following mix's logic?

That's a hard no from me.

Okay, let's take a look at what we know:

- ADK is town
- ash is town
- If Awaclus is town, shraeye is town
- If shraeye is town, raerae is town
- If raerae is town, shraeye is town

If we believe all of these, and we believe Awaclus is town, then there's only 5 possible people that can be scum. Since I'm town, I can lower this to 4. Since I do believe Awaclus is town, I think scum's in {Uncle, faust, Swan, mcmc, MiX}.

...Or I'm trusting the shraeye/raerae situation too much? Anyway, that's my logic.

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No. WE don't know that Ash is town. You've CLAIMED he is. What's to stop scum from doing that to keep two of them off the table today?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #755 on: May 19, 2019, 10:53:00 am »

Is anyone else following mix's logic?

That's a hard no from me.

Okay, let's take a look at what we know:

- ADK is town
- ash is town
- If Awaclus is town, shraeye is town
- If shraeye is town, raerae is town
- If raerae is town, shraeye is town

If we believe all of these, and we believe Awaclus is town, then there's only 5 possible people that can be scum. Since I'm town, I can lower this to 4. Since I do believe Awaclus is town, I think scum's in {Uncle, faust, Swan, mcmc, MiX}.

...Or I'm trusting the shraeye/raerae situation too much? Anyway, that's my logic.

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The shraeye/raerae connection is my biggest stumbling point in your post
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #756 on: May 19, 2019, 10:53:40 am »

No. WE don't know that Ash is town. You've CLAIMED he is. What's to stop scum from doing that to keep two of them off the table today?

Also the claim that Ash is town is based on the premise that scum wouldn't lie. That's not very convincing even if we believe MiX.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #757 on: May 19, 2019, 10:57:28 am »

Who has the sugar bowl now?

Wait, this is baudelaire hunting.

vote: raerae
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #758 on: May 19, 2019, 11:00:14 am »

Who has the sugar bowl now?

Wait, this is baudelaire hunting.

vote: raerae

Nope, seems like Didds was killed because she had it. Send like she would have passed out to somebody she trusted. Would have thought the VFD would have tried to stop her death if they could. I was surprised to see her as the kill.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #759 on: May 19, 2019, 11:02:21 am »

- If shraeye is town, raerae is town
- If raerae is town, shraeye is town
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #760 on: May 19, 2019, 11:03:33 am »

- If shraeye is town, raerae is town
- If raerae is town, shraeye is town
?

-raerae/shraeye/shraerae: I definitely noticed her townreading me yesterday when (based on how I had been playing) I expected her not too.  Super odd; I thought deeply about it and have come to the conclusion that she literally knows I'm town.  Now you might argue "that's because all scum know who town is", but you would be wrong.  So, I'm not sure if I've buddied her yet, but consider this hardcore buddying.  If you have any reason to believe I'm town, believe that raerae is town.  And vice-versa.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #761 on: May 19, 2019, 11:06:48 am »

- If shraeye is town, raerae is town
- If raerae is town, shraeye is town
?

-raerae/shraeye/shraerae: I definitely noticed her townreading me yesterday when (based on how I had been playing) I expected her not too.  Super odd; I thought deeply about it and have come to the conclusion that she literally knows I'm town.  Now you might argue "that's because all scum know who town is", but you would be wrong.  So, I'm not sure if I've buddied her yet, but consider this hardcore buddying.  If you have any reason to believe I'm town, believe that raerae is town.  And vice-versa.
You buy that because raerae read shraeye differently from what he expected, se couldn't possibly be scum?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #762 on: May 19, 2019, 11:07:20 am »

Is anyone else following mix's logic?

Do you believe Awaclus is town?

I'm leaning that way. Right now I'm at the point where I honestly want to lynch Faust.
And why might that be?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #763 on: May 19, 2019, 11:09:44 am »

{Uncle, faust, Swan, mcmc, MiX}.
And why is Eddie the scummiest of those?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #764 on: May 19, 2019, 11:13:41 am »

- If shraeye is town, raerae is town
- If raerae is town, shraeye is town
?

-raerae/shraeye/shraerae: I definitely noticed her townreading me yesterday when (based on how I had been playing) I expected her not too.  Super odd; I thought deeply about it and have come to the conclusion that she literally knows I'm town.  Now you might argue "that's because all scum know who town is", but you would be wrong.  So, I'm not sure if I've buddied her yet, but consider this hardcore buddying.  If you have any reason to believe I'm town, believe that raerae is town.  And vice-versa.
You buy that because raerae read shraeye differently from what he expected, se couldn't possibly be scum?

I'm assuming they have Very Important Roles that somehow confirm each other. I could be wrong, but it's not the worst assumption to make. In fact, I would like for shraeye and raerae to detail how much they trust each other.

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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #765 on: May 19, 2019, 11:21:07 am »

{Uncle, faust, Swan, mcmc, MiX}.
And why is Eddie the scummiest of those?

Barely talked...at all. I mean, seriously, look at D2, after he places his vote on Didds all he does is answer my questioning on shraeye. Oh and some raerae related things, I guess. He was already my scumread at the start of D2 and if pubby didn't work (man, that role is really scummy...) then it's probably Uncle. The pool's really small, which means it could be more people, especially mcmc, he also hasn't said anything, but I prefer an Uncle lynch now.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #766 on: May 19, 2019, 11:22:44 am »

I wish I felt better about this lynch.

I have to say I found this post concerning, although I know that A Drowned Kernal is extra paranoid about these things, so...

I think MiX is handing out “you’re 100% good” cards without much discretion. Choosing to trust raerae is town based on shraeye’s post is one thing, choosing to trust Shraeye is town based on what Shraeye said his assumptions about raerae are? Questionable.

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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #767 on: May 19, 2019, 11:26:24 am »

I wish I felt better about this lynch.

I have to say I found this post concerning, although I know that A Drowned Kernal is extra paranoid about these things, so...

I think MiX is handing out “you’re 100% good” cards without much discretion. Choosing to trust raerae is town based on shraeye’s post is one thing, choosing to trust Shraeye is town based on what Shraeye said his assumptions about raerae are? Questionable.

Vote: Mcmc

Well, if I trust raerae then I should trust her massive townread on shraeye. I think we're much more likely to hit scum in that lynch pool than otherwise, unless you think scum all tied themselves, which is possible, but unlikely.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #768 on: May 19, 2019, 11:28:01 am »

{Uncle, faust, Swan, mcmc, MiX}.
And why is Eddie the scummiest of those?

Barely talked...at all. I mean, seriously, look at D2, after he places his vote on Didds all he does is answer my questioning on shraeye. Oh and some raerae related things, I guess. He was already my scumread at the start of D2 and if pubby didn't work (man, that role is really scummy...) then it's probably Uncle. The pool's really small, which means it could be more people, especially mcmc, he also hasn't said anything, but I prefer an Uncle lynch now.

I am scummiest for not talking yet Mcmc is fine? His entire post count is coming in and saying fairly obvious (or non-confrontational) things, voting for me, then leaving. That is much different than his normal self AND he isn’t talking.

And day two ended early, I was out all day in class driving home when it hammered.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #769 on: May 19, 2019, 11:41:57 am »

{Uncle, faust, Swan, mcmc, MiX}.
And why is Eddie the scummiest of those?

Barely talked...at all. I mean, seriously, look at D2, after he places his vote on Didds all he does is answer my questioning on shraeye. Oh and some raerae related things, I guess. He was already my scumread at the start of D2 and if pubby didn't work (man, that role is really scummy...) then it's probably Uncle. The pool's really small, which means it could be more people, especially mcmc, he also hasn't said anything, but I prefer an Uncle lynch now.

I am scummiest for not talking yet Mcmc is fine? His entire post count is coming in and saying fairly obvious (or non-confrontational) things, voting for me, then leaving. That is much different than his normal self AND he isn’t talking.

And day two ended early, I was out all day in class driving home when it hammered.

Yeah a mcmc lynch is fine, the only problem is you're behind it. No offence.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #770 on: May 19, 2019, 12:02:27 pm »

How in the world is that a problem.  You think scum is afraid to bus at this point??
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« Reply #771 on: May 19, 2019, 12:03:36 pm »

In fact, I would like for shraeye and raerae to detail how much they trust each other.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #772 on: May 19, 2019, 12:04:40 pm »

Is anyone else following mix's logic?

Do you believe Awaclus is town?

I'm leaning that way. Right now I'm at the point where I honestly want to lynch Faust.
Seems ok to me, but mcmc first?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #773 on: May 19, 2019, 12:06:55 pm »

How in the world is that a problem.  You think scum is afraid to bus at this point??

Not really. Oh, actually

Vote: mcmc, I'm pretty sure scum busses here pretty much every time.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #774 on: May 19, 2019, 12:14:59 pm »

Vote: mcmc seems fine.
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