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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #700 on: May 16, 2019, 04:58:19 pm »

Yikes, 5 votes. Now I remember why I quit playing mafia games. Anyway, I'm gonna be at a convention for all of tomorrow so I guess I'll claim.

I'm a flavor-cop for Baudelaires. I can test to see who's Baudelaire and who isn't. I investigated Awaclus last night and he's not Baudelaire. He claims to be non-volunteer, so that means 50% chance he's scum. (I'm non-volunteer, so that's why it's 3/6 instead of 3/7)

I was gonna vote for him after observing his behavior d2, and well, I guess he's already voted and shared so
Vote: Awaclus

Pubby, if you've had this information all day why are you just now pushing for an Awaclus lunch?

PLEASE IGNORE ALL PROBABILITY.  THIIIIIIIISSSSS IS THE IMPORTANT ARGUMENT.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #701 on: May 16, 2019, 04:59:46 pm »

And by argument, I mean question.  Or point.  Whatever.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #702 on: May 16, 2019, 05:02:06 pm »

I love you shraeye, I was about to say "you're assuming there's 3 VFD scum and 3 non-VFD scum" and you just said it. So, thank you.

Anyway that was a fun distraction that made pubby not answer my real questions...sorry.

Why did you target Awaclus? Why did you claim? Why did you reveal your target? And I forgot the other one actually, weren't they four?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #703 on: May 16, 2019, 05:18:48 pm »

Well I’m completely up for a pubby lynch at this point I think that claim was extremely scummy.

A bauldiaer cop is more likely to be scum
Awaclus claims to be Roleblocker and pubby claims to have targeted awaclus
Pubby outs a non bauldaire for a claimed reason of building a case but could have and should have been pushing the case prior to claiming.

vote: pubby that is L-1
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #704 on: May 16, 2019, 05:22:55 pm »

Shraeye, according to ADK nobody but the actual volunteers can claim to be volunteer without being immediately outed as fraud.

I figured the reason why I targeted Awaclus was obvious. Two people claimed non-volunteer, therefore I was going to pick one of the two. And yes, the math does make sense, in a way.

Either:

A) You believe I'm lying, which will be proven false when I'm lynched and my role revealed.
B) Awaclus is lying through the teeth and actually a volunteer.
C) Awaclus is telling the truth, a non-volunteer, and therefore a 50-50 chance of being scum.

Now here's where things get interesting. If Awaclus was actually lying, he's going to flip and say he's a volunteer. If he's actually a volunteer, ADK can confirm him and we won't lynch a townie. If he's scum, ADK can out them and we'll have a guaranteed scum lynch.

So yeah, the math works out. It's 50-50, roughly.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #705 on: May 16, 2019, 05:35:21 pm »

Pubby, are you planning on answering me or no?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #706 on: May 16, 2019, 05:39:26 pm »

Well I’m completely up for a pubby lynch at this point I think that claim was extremely scummy.

A bauldiaer cop is more likely to be scum
Awaclus claims to be Roleblocker and pubby claims to have targeted awaclus
Pubby outs a non bauldaire for a claimed reason of building a case but could have and should have been pushing the case prior to claiming.

vote: pubby that is L-1

Awaclus claimed to have been roleblocked, not that he is a roleblocker. Just wanted to clarify there.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #707 on: May 16, 2019, 05:44:17 pm »

Now here's where things get interesting. If Awaclus was actually lying, he's going to flip and say he's a volunteer. If he's actually a volunteer, ADK can confirm him and we won't lynch a townie. If he's scum, ADK can out them and we'll have a guaranteed scum lynch.

I don't really see how things get interesting here.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #708 on: May 16, 2019, 05:46:34 pm »

Sorry, should have finished my thought, I get you wanted to observe him and you didn't just want to throw a vote down but you did nothing to engage him, to get the interaction that would help you determine how alignment. Why just sit back?
Well there's three reasons I guess:

A) I don't know what I'm doing

B) People were/are attacking me for questioning Awaclus d1. I mean, I'm getting lynched because I asked him a question d1. Seemed pretty bad to repeat that mistake.

C) The roleblock threw me off for a moment. I assumed it was a scum RB for awhile, but now not sure. I think scum had a better RB target in ADK, but who knows.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #709 on: May 16, 2019, 05:48:17 pm »

A) I don't know what I'm doing

Then why claim now? Why out your information when you're probably going to get lynched anyway?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #710 on: May 16, 2019, 05:51:56 pm »

Sorry, should have finished my thought, I get you wanted to observe him and you didn't just want to throw a vote down but you did nothing to engage him, to get the interaction that would help you determine how alignment. Why just sit back?
Well there's three reasons I guess:

A) I don't know what I'm doing

B) People were/are attacking me for questioning Awaclus d1. I mean, I'm getting lynched because I asked him a question d1. Seemed pretty bad to repeat that mistake.

C) The roleblock threw me off for a moment. I assumed it was a scum RB for awhile, but now not sure. I think scum had a better RB target in ADK, but who knows.

So who do you think his partners are?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #711 on: May 16, 2019, 05:52:54 pm »

A) I don't know what I'm doing

Then why claim now? Why out your information when you're probably going to get lynched anyway?

This seems like an unnecessary attack that won't change your feelings.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #712 on: May 16, 2019, 06:05:40 pm »

So who do you think his partners are?
If Awa is scum I'd look to shraeye and MiX next.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #713 on: May 16, 2019, 06:08:11 pm »

I appreciate the answer but this is my intent to hammer.

I'm going to go get my kid up and take him home, I'll hammer after I let the dogs out so, say, 45-90 minutes from now? If you've got anything else to spill or any better arguments is suggest making them known.

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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #714 on: May 16, 2019, 06:29:22 pm »

vote: pubby just to steal the hammer.

Also “speific role that scum can kill to win” cop is a scummy role, so that’s just...I don’t know. I can think of a few players who get that as scum and can pull off the claim, but that’s tough.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #715 on: May 16, 2019, 06:32:32 pm »

I wish I felt better about this lynch.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #716 on: May 16, 2019, 06:32:44 pm »

I will say, if the role was in town’s hands, Awaclus isn’t a terrible target. I think the better conclusion to draw is “appears Awa didn’t lie about at least part of his role” instead of “high chance of scum.”  I would think ADK was a better choice, though.

But man, what do you do with the information other than never reveal it unless it directly contradicts a mason claim at L-1?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #717 on: May 16, 2019, 06:32:49 pm »

vote: pubby just to steal the hammer.

Also “speific role that scum can kill to win” cop is a scummy role, so that’s just...I don’t know. I can think of a few players who get that as scum and can pull off the claim, but that’s tough.

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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #718 on: May 16, 2019, 06:33:09 pm »

I wish I felt better about this lynch.

Just imagine it’s D1, then you will.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #719 on: May 16, 2019, 07:06:53 pm »


One term often used in literary conversations is "the death of the author", which typically refers to a movement which eschews any interpretation of a text based on biographical data and holds the writing and its creator as completely unrelated. "The death of the author" does not typically mean that the author has literally been killed.

In this case, however, I am sad to report the term is meant literally, not figuratively. pubby has been lynched. He wasLemony Snicket, the Town-Aligned Baudelaire Cop.


Voting - Fatal Denunciation 2.3

WestCoastDidds (1): UncleEurope
MiX (2): DatSwan, faust
pubby (7): Awaclus, MiX, WestCoastDidds, shraeye, A Drowned Kernel, mcmcsalot, ashersky
Awaclus (1): pubby

Not voting (1): raerae

With 12 players alive, it took 7 to lynch. Night 2 begins now and will end some time after 7:00 PM FT on May 18th.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #720 on: May 16, 2019, 07:07:25 pm »

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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #721 on: May 18, 2019, 10:40:41 pm »

Unfortunately one of your mods is extremely drunk and the other is apparently busy or some suck so probably this thread will reopen some time tomorrow. We apologize for the delay.
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« Reply #722 on: May 18, 2019, 10:41:35 pm »

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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #723 on: May 19, 2019, 09:20:59 am »


It is too late to stop playing this mafia game. But if you are considering the option of simply ceasing to read the dreadfully grim flavor, there will be some advantages to doing so right now. If you do not continue reading beyond this paragraph, you can choose to believe that Sunny Baudelaire, the youngest of the Baudelaire orphans, survived this entire ordeal. You can believe that she grew up to be a successful and accomplished young woman, that she was adopted by a loving family, and that she was somehow able to escape the terrible fates prone to befall members of her family.

If you choose to read on, however, you will have to read, however obliquely, about a baby trapped in a large bird cage and about a large bird cage dropped from the top of an elevator shaft and about a sister who was once again unable to save her sibling from the machinations of Count Olaf and, in this case, his associate Esme Squalor.

WestCoastDidds has been killed. She was Sunny Baudelaire, the Town-Aligned Survivor-Mason Loved One-Shot Roleblocker.


Voting - Frightful Dawn 3.0

Not voting (1): UncleEurope, DatSwan, faust, Awaclus, MiX, shraeye, A Drowned Kernel, mcmcsalot, ashersky, raerae

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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #724 on: May 19, 2019, 09:39:25 am »

Shraeye is town.
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