Dominion Strategy Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Pages: 1 ... 4 5 [6] 7 8 ... 51  All

Author Topic: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Game Over: Town wins)  (Read 147436 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

WestCoastDidds

  • Ambassador
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 33
  • Shuffle iT Username: WestCoastDidds
  • Didds, ya'll
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #125 on: May 07, 2019, 09:46:51 pm »

Also, my middle name is Olaf.  But don't lynch me, ok?

We watched that whole damn series.  I'm married to you.  We considering including that name in our child's name.  It took me until now to realize the correlation.  I am ashamed.

In your defense, his middle name is probably not “Count Olaf”. You’d have noticed that,
Logged
classic Diddsian meddling
I never got to read what Didds said, but whatever she's saying, she's right.

Awaclus

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11809
  • Shuffle iT Username: Awaclus
  • (´。• ω •。`)
    • View Profile
    • Birds of Necama
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #126 on: May 07, 2019, 09:52:52 pm »

In your defense, his middle name is probably not “Count Olaf”. You’d have noticed that,

But what if his first name is Count?
Logged
Bomb, Cannon, and many of the Gunpowder cards can strongly effect gameplay, particularly in a destructive way

The YouTube channel where I make musicDownload my band's Creative Commons albums for free

shraeye

  • Minion
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 690
  • Shuffle iT Username: shraeye
  • More Graph Theory please
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #127 on: May 07, 2019, 09:58:45 pm »

Well that is a sequence of five of interesting facts.

It's funny how I don't even know you.

But, game talk real quick, you a solid yea or a nay on the claim game?  Or you feeling wishy washy today?
Honestly, I don't really care.  This is the "yes, it's the best; no, it's the worst; wait, your opinion is scummy; oh, no yours is; well I guess you're not scummy, but you're still wrong; well I'll vote you anyway; not if I vote you first" that everybody keeps circling back to on future days like it actually meant something. 

So I'm not nay, nor yay, nor wishy washy.  I'm aggressively against all sides in this debate.
Logged

raerae

  • Thief
  • ****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 96
  • Shuffle iT Username: raerae
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #128 on: May 07, 2019, 10:33:23 pm »

Well that is a sequence of five of interesting facts.

It's funny how I don't even know you.

But, game talk real quick, you a solid yea or a nay on the claim game?  Or you feeling wishy washy today?
Honestly, I don't really care.  This is the "yes, it's the best; no, it's the worst; wait, your opinion is scummy; oh, no yours is; well I guess you're not scummy, but you're still wrong; well I'll vote you anyway; not if I vote you first" that everybody keeps circling back to on future days like it actually meant something. 

So I'm not nay, nor yay, nor wishy washy.  I'm aggressively against all sides in this debate.

Cool.  So how do we move forward then?

Vote: shraeye?
Logged

shraeye

  • Minion
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 690
  • Shuffle iT Username: shraeye
  • More Graph Theory please
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #129 on: May 07, 2019, 10:34:35 pm »

I'm just over here popping for joke-making and waiting the storm out.
Logged

Uncleeurope

  • Pawn
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #130 on: May 07, 2019, 11:21:31 pm »

Also, my middle name is Olaf.  But don't lynch me, ok?

But can you count?

Wait, what was your job again?

Aren’t you so good at being a count that you teach other people how to count?

,’: |

Vote: Shraeye





(Vote: Pubby)
Logged
Don't worry, no one can read uncle correctly.

Uncleeurope Eddie

pubby

  • Minion
  • *****
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 548
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #131 on: May 08, 2019, 01:21:18 am »

Also, if I were to attempt to guess the set up -

3 Children
3 Arsonists
3 VFD
1 Olaf SK
3 VTs (or some random town PR)

The setup post specifically says "the other four town players". Also, I would be surprised if they were all just VTs.
RMM means it's role mania, yeah? And that means 4 VTs is super unlikely?
Logged

Swowl

  • Pawn
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1
  • Shuffle iT Username: Swowl
  • Snow.Owl.Duh.
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #132 on: May 08, 2019, 01:24:41 am »

Also, if I were to attempt to guess the set up -

3 Children
3 Arsonists
3 VFD
1 Olaf SK
3 VTs (or some random town PR)

The setup post specifically says "the other four town players". Also, I would be surprised if they were all just VTs.
RMM means it's role mania, yeah? And that means 4 VTs is super unlikely?

Yeah also the set up does say 4 town so i guess that means no SK
Logged
Jesus how did i fuck that up
real good. That’s how
Town:  14 wins, 14 losses (1 MVP)
Skum: 7 wins, 7 losses (1 MVP)
3-Party: 4 wins, 1 loss

MiX

  • Navigator
  • ****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 77
  • Shuffle iT Username: MiX
  • It's me.
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #133 on: May 08, 2019, 02:16:29 am »

I guess Swan opens every game with strange, convoluted, wrong theories regarding the setup? I fail to see how he forgot scum can claim 1 or 2 Volunteers, that's really the worst part about this plan.

I did some math, and even if we somehow lynched the scum!Volunteer D1, all scum needs to do is NK Baudelaire and they end up in an aproximately 30.55% winrate for town (barring PRs, so it should go higher). This wouldn't be so bad, but that's only if we get remarkably lucky D1, which is incredibly hard. Great, now I'm against the plan, should've thought about it. Hopefully the 2 claims help ADK's targetting.
Logged

ashersky

  • Board Moderator
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2343
  • 2013/2014/2015 Mafia Mod of the Year
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #134 on: May 08, 2019, 03:17:02 am »

For the record, every single player should claim Mason at L-1.
Logged
f.ds Mafia Board Moderator

2013, 2014, 2015 Mafia Mod of the Year
2015 f.ds Representative, World Forum Mafia Championships
2013, 2014 Mafia Player of the Year (Tie)

11x MVP: M30, M83, ZM16, M25, M38, M61, M76, RMM5, RMM41, RMM46, M51

MiX

  • Navigator
  • ****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 77
  • Shuffle iT Username: MiX
  • It's me.
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #135 on: May 08, 2019, 04:04:03 am »

For the record, every single player should claim Mason at L-1.

So, no one should claim?
Logged

Swowl

  • Pawn
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1
  • Shuffle iT Username: Swowl
  • Snow.Owl.Duh.
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #136 on: May 08, 2019, 04:04:47 am »

I guess Swan opens every game with strange, convoluted, wrong theories regarding the setup? I fail to see how he forgot scum can claim 1 or 2 Volunteers, that's really the worst part about this plan.

I did some math, and even if we somehow lynched the scum!Volunteer D1, all scum needs to do is NK Baudelaire and they end up in an aproximately 30.55% winrate for town (barring PRs, so it should go higher). This wouldn't be so bad, but that's only if we get remarkably lucky D1, which is incredibly hard. Great, now I'm against the plan, should've thought about it. Hopefully the 2 claims help ADK's targetting.

I did not forget. I thought it through at the time, and upon re looking at it... yeah that is an option. Tbh it is actually probably the route they would take - specifically that only one would fake claim if they did.

With that, i am now also against the plan.

I do think the plan potentially has value - if one claims we have 25%, 2 we have 40% chance, 3 we have 50% chance.
Even at a 25% chance, it gives all town except the children a better than usual shot st finding skum.
But factoring in the isolation of the children for the NKs... yeah it probably isn’t the best.
Logged
Jesus how did i fuck that up
real good. That’s how
Town:  14 wins, 14 losses (1 MVP)
Skum: 7 wins, 7 losses (1 MVP)
3-Party: 4 wins, 1 loss

Swowl

  • Pawn
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1
  • Shuffle iT Username: Swowl
  • Snow.Owl.Duh.
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #137 on: May 08, 2019, 04:05:36 am »

For the record, every single player should claim Mason at L-1.

Why should a VT claim mason at L1?
All that does is open up a CC from an actual Mason in a town v town situation.
Logged
Jesus how did i fuck that up
real good. That’s how
Town:  14 wins, 14 losses (1 MVP)
Skum: 7 wins, 7 losses (1 MVP)
3-Party: 4 wins, 1 loss

MiX

  • Navigator
  • ****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 77
  • Shuffle iT Username: MiX
  • It's me.
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #138 on: May 08, 2019, 04:09:38 am »

For the record, every single player should claim Mason at L-1.

Why should a VT claim mason at L1?
All that does is open up a CC from an actual Mason in a town v town situation.

No mason should counterclaim ever, unless we're ahead (more Baudelaires than scum), and even then.

25% chance to nab scum is only slightly higher than what we do have, and since when does scum get lynched D1? Never, right?
Logged

faust

  • Board Moderator
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3377
  • Shuffle iT Username: faust
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #139 on: May 08, 2019, 04:26:01 am »

A lot of people here seem strongly in the business of "let's tell scum how to play best". Here's a suggestion: Let's not.
Logged
You say the ocean's rising, like I give a shit
You say the whole world's ending, honey it already did

faust

  • Board Moderator
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3377
  • Shuffle iT Username: faust
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #140 on: May 08, 2019, 04:34:49 am »

Maybe people would enjoy a Vote: Awaclus?

If we have a 3/6 chance of lynching scum and they have a 3/7 chance of killing Baudelaire and we get to go first, mathematically speaking we win. There's no way they're going to let this scenario happen.
This is the most outrageous example of telling scum what to do. Add in that at that point he had already claimed non-Volunteer and thus had to signal his teammates to not follow suit.
Logged
You say the ocean's rising, like I give a shit
You say the whole world's ending, honey it already did

MiX

  • Navigator
  • ****
  • Online Online
  • Posts: 77
  • Shuffle iT Username: MiX
  • It's me.
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #141 on: May 08, 2019, 04:55:46 am »

But it's so obviously true! Also I'm against all Awaclus lynches, last time we played I was really really happy he got lynched.
Logged

faust

  • Board Moderator
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3377
  • Shuffle iT Username: faust
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #142 on: May 08, 2019, 04:57:46 am »

But it's so obviously true! Also I'm against all Awaclus lynches, last time we played I was really really happy he got lynched.
What if I told you you can be that happy again?
Logged
You say the ocean's rising, like I give a shit
You say the whole world's ending, honey it already did

Uncleeurope

  • Pawn
  • **
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 3
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #143 on: May 08, 2019, 05:19:03 am »

It’s amazing how easily attained true happiness can be.
Logged
Don't worry, no one can read uncle correctly.

Uncleeurope Eddie

Awaclus

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11809
  • Shuffle iT Username: Awaclus
  • (´。• ω •。`)
    • View Profile
    • Birds of Necama
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #144 on: May 08, 2019, 05:33:49 am »

Maybe people would enjoy a Vote: Awaclus?

If we have a 3/6 chance of lynching scum and they have a 3/7 chance of killing Baudelaire and we get to go first, mathematically speaking we win. There's no way they're going to let this scenario happen.
This is the most outrageous example of telling scum what to do. Add in that at that point he had already claimed non-Volunteer and thus had to signal his teammates to not follow suit.

Bullshit. It's just really important that some form of the plan takes place, which is why I made a case for why the plan is better than DatSwan made it sound like.
Logged
Bomb, Cannon, and many of the Gunpowder cards can strongly effect gameplay, particularly in a destructive way

The YouTube channel where I make musicDownload my band's Creative Commons albums for free

A Drowned Kernel

  • 2015 World Champion
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1067
  • They/Them
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #145 on: May 08, 2019, 06:29:40 am »

For the record, every single player should claim Mason at L-1.

No, bad, awful.
Logged
The perfect engine
But it will never go off
Three piles are empty

A Drowned Kernel

  • 2015 World Champion
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1067
  • They/Them
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #146 on: May 08, 2019, 07:17:43 am »

Last post on claiming for now: volunteers, I am perfectly ok with you just unilaterally claiming, if you feel that that's right. We don't actually need a consensus for this.
Logged
The perfect engine
But it will never go off
Three piles are empty

WestCoastDidds

  • Ambassador
  • ***
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 33
  • Shuffle iT Username: WestCoastDidds
  • Didds, ya'll
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #147 on: May 08, 2019, 07:59:09 am »

Last post on claiming for now: volunteers, I am perfectly ok with you just unilaterally claiming, if you feel that that's right. We don't actually need a consensus for this.

Good morning, ADK! How does the volunteers claiming help town? It seems like folks have come to the conclusion theta claiming in no bueno, yes? Or no? Does it help you or us to know who your buddies are?
Logged
classic Diddsian meddling
I never got to read what Didds said, but whatever she's saying, she's right.

Awaclus

  • Adventurer
  • ******
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 11809
  • Shuffle iT Username: Awaclus
  • (´。• ω •。`)
    • View Profile
    • Birds of Necama
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #148 on: May 08, 2019, 08:09:43 am »

Last post on claiming for now: volunteers, I am perfectly ok with you just unilaterally claiming, if you feel that that's right. We don't actually need a consensus for this.

Good morning, ADK! How does the volunteers claiming help town? It seems like folks have come to the conclusion theta claiming in no bueno, yes? Or no? Does it help you or us to know who your buddies are?

I don't want to reveal everything that I know about the subject but it helps town pretty substantially.
Logged
Bomb, Cannon, and many of the Gunpowder cards can strongly effect gameplay, particularly in a destructive way

The YouTube channel where I make musicDownload my band's Creative Commons albums for free

A Drowned Kernel

  • 2015 World Champion
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1067
  • They/Them
    • View Profile
Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #149 on: May 08, 2019, 08:15:56 am »

Last post on claiming for now: volunteers, I am perfectly ok with you just unilaterally claiming, if you feel that that's right. We don't actually need a consensus for this.

Good morning, ADK! How does the volunteers claiming help town? It seems like folks have come to the conclusion theta claiming in no bueno, yes? Or no? Does it help you or us to know who your buddies are?

It helps me, I will say that much
Logged
The perfect engine
But it will never go off
Three piles are empty
Pages: 1 ... 4 5 [6] 7 8 ... 51  All
 

Page created in 0.102 seconds with 20 queries.