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Author Topic: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Game Over: Town wins)  (Read 147325 times)

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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #400 on: May 12, 2019, 12:33:26 am »

ok so it is like really soon.
8:53am on May 12th FT to be exact.

Can I get any love for the Mix wagon?
I am pretty much a no go for ADK or Awaclus today.

No lynch, is as it always is, a horrible idea. The argument that "no one has a solid skum read" is the absolute most nonsense I have ever heard. It is D1 in a 13 player game. The upside of NOT lynching town today is heavily... heavily outweighed by the info gained from the D1 lynch. There are never any "solid skum reads" on day 1. Not even if you think you have a good read, get that player lynched, and are correct and they flip skum.... it still wasn't solid. It was based on no info, no VCA... nothing. Just player meta from previous games. Which of course, can be manipulated.

The "info gained" today is heavily outweighed by ALL THE REASONS I HAVE LISTED.  Take your "info gained" mantra and lock it back in it's box, dude.  This is Role Madness, joth style.  Let me catch you up to speed on what happened last joth-mod RMM.  The always-lynch-squad shot down an IC for the sake of  GHAAINNNING INPHOOOO!!

I'm not asking for a bulletproof case.  There literally aren't any cases.  People are just now catching up; it is not realistic to think that we can have everybody up to speed, a sensible discussion, a high-success-lynch in the next 9 hours when more than 60% of the players will be asleep for more than 60% of that time. 

It is too late; it is no-lynch time.

The problem is with DL where it is and you promoting this stance.
There is no Plurality this game.
So we have a wagon max of what... 3?

Getting people to go no lynch is IN FACT a way to take away info from future days in a very substantial way.

If there is a NO LYNCH because we all try to lynch and no one is lynched... that is one thing.
But in a world where there is no real wagon, and we have a bunch of people on a NO LYNCH... that is just the worst + the worst.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #401 on: May 12, 2019, 12:38:10 am »

There's very few lynches I actually like at this point. No Lynch might actually be the way to go.

But of any Lynch, I think the best bet is

vote: eddie

So I'll put my vote there. Might be best to let things just go to deadline though.

summarize eddie for me please.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #402 on: May 12, 2019, 12:41:53 am »

I dislike the DatSwan votes, btw.

Feels like that's worth mentioning.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #403 on: May 12, 2019, 12:46:23 am »

There's very few lynches I actually like at this point. No Lynch might actually be the way to go.

But of any Lynch, I think the best bet is

vote: eddie

So I'll put my vote there. Might be best to let things just go to deadline though.

summarize eddie for me please.
Super quick style.

Im going to out on a limb here and say that he is a bit of an odd guy. Kinda awkward, a bit of a milk fanatic, maybe a touch morose at times.

He's the kind of person who would mess up high-fives a lot, but he tries his best.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #404 on: May 12, 2019, 02:38:41 am »

There's very few lynches I actually like at this point. No Lynch might actually be the way to go.

But of any Lynch, I think the best bet is

vote: eddie

So I'll put my vote there. Might be best to let things just go to deadline though.

summarize eddie for me please.
Super quick style.

Im going to out on a limb here and say that he is a bit of an odd guy. Kinda awkward, a bit of a milk fanatic, maybe a touch morose at times.

He's the kind of person who would mess up high-fives a lot, but he tries his best.

When you high five is it on “ 1,2,3” or “1,2,3, go”?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #405 on: May 12, 2019, 03:11:36 am »

I dislike the DatSwan votes, btw.

Feels like that's worth mentioning.

So you dislike mix vote? Bc the only other vote was for the person you are voting. Kind of a “i would be willing to go for swan but also the only person swan has voted for” vibe.

Thought it was worth mentioning.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #406 on: May 12, 2019, 03:12:42 am »

Europeans where you at I’m running out of juice here
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #407 on: May 12, 2019, 03:25:55 am »

Europeans where you at I’m running out of juice here

Just waking up
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #408 on: May 12, 2019, 03:29:35 am »

If ANYTHING happens at night, then we don't go into D2 with "no information".

Don't give me that line either, it's total crap

Yeah, and I am sure you will be first to claim.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #409 on: May 12, 2019, 03:44:54 am »

But yeah, it doesn't look like a lynch is going to happen
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #410 on: May 12, 2019, 04:29:32 am »

I can vote MiX as a possible ADK partner based on Sean’s logic, assuming a more complicated plan cooked up by ADK or Faust or something.  Since ADK seems strongly unlynchable today...

vote: MiX

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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #411 on: May 12, 2019, 04:45:41 am »

MiX isn't a terrible lynch here

Vote: MiX
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #412 on: May 12, 2019, 04:57:12 am »

Vote: MiX
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #413 on: May 12, 2019, 05:34:07 am »

faust's vote count

shraeye (2): faust, Eddie
ashersky (1): Awaclus
DatSwan (1): mcmc
MiX (4): DatSwan, ash, e, pubby
Eddie (1): ADK

No lynch (4): shraeye, MiX, raerae, WCD
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #414 on: May 12, 2019, 05:47:02 am »

Well I've reread some people and arrived at a solid meh. Like DatSwan... contrived setup mistake, plan talking, disappearance, then trying to start a new wagon... meh. The most likely outcome is no lynch, he was on a wagon when he voted for MiX and left it for everyone's favorite mislynch.

Eddie... absent, mostly short posts that announce his feelings about stuff but don't further the game, pushing for people who are going to be easy to read later on and have no support.

MiX... premature claim and then backpedaling, probing for things and not really sticking to them. I don't know if it's actually scummy for him. At least he's probably not going to be scum with Awaclus? Which is weird because I seem to remember that that is exactly the angle Swan was pushing.

So I'm actively opposed to ashersky and no lynch, and I could do any of he three above but MiX is not my favorite.

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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #415 on: May 12, 2019, 05:57:20 am »

Vote: Eddie
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #416 on: May 12, 2019, 06:34:33 am »

Okay so the case on me is...I trust ADK? What a crime!

Vote: ash because people actually bought the idea that ADK could reasonably be scum without him doing a crazy gambit while guessing what VFD's roles will say, that's just...that's just not something ADK can do as scum.

Either ash or Swan here, but I think Swan's case makes more sense, since it comes from a "ADK's plan is scummy" perspective, which ash started. And I know how wrong Swan can be regarding setup, so he gets a pass. Ash doesn't.

I'll reread what happened while I was gone away and chime in about other things.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #417 on: May 12, 2019, 06:50:26 am »

Okay, so ash's reasoning for voting for me is terrible and still implies ADK is scum, something that I can't really see here after his talk about VFD catching fakeclaims (somehow), why would scum say that? And how would they guess this is the case? And if it is the case, won't scum!ADK be caught anyway? Because the real VFD have fakeclaim-catching things? So all in all ash's scumread on ADK makes absolutely no sense.

e and pubby's vote, however, don't actually have explanation. Do you care to explain, because I would love to know if your'e sheeping ash or swan.

Eddie seems as detached from the game as he said he was in RMM52 (he was town), but I'll have to reread that game to see how he was. Nevertheless he doesn't seem scummy as much as null and a bit confused about no lynch. Again, I'll reread his past games.

I can understand shraeye votes, but now is not the time for them, if at all. He played me last time so I don't know if this no-lynch scenario means he's scummy or not, it's still the correct thing to do (other than an ash lynch) so he shouldn't be scumread for it.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #418 on: May 12, 2019, 07:05:04 am »

I'm here, I would vote for mix to get a lynch through
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #419 on: May 12, 2019, 07:08:12 am »

I’m here and like vote: Eddie more than a mix lynch
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #420 on: May 12, 2019, 07:09:04 am »

I'm here, I would vote for mix to get a lynch through

We could always no lynch, you know. The case on me's weak and it's mostly because I trusted ADK's plan enough to claim on the spot without thinking about every possible scenario. Unless there's a better one?

I’m here and like vote: Eddie more than a mix lynch

Ew. But I might join this, even just for my survival. Oh that reminds me I need to reread him!
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #421 on: May 12, 2019, 07:10:29 am »

Okay so the case on me is...I trust ADK? What a crime!

Vote: ash because people actually bought the idea that ADK could reasonably be scum without him doing a crazy gambit while guessing what VFD's roles will say, that's just...that's just not something ADK can do as scum.
When did you change your mind about no lynch?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #422 on: May 12, 2019, 07:13:36 am »

Okay so the case on me is...I trust ADK? What a crime!

Vote: ash because people actually bought the idea that ADK could reasonably be scum without him doing a crazy gambit while guessing what VFD's roles will say, that's just...that's just not something ADK can do as scum.
When did you change your mind about no lynch?

Never:

I'm down for it, actually, but I would rather lynch ash.

Vote: No Lynch, but I will hammer ash.

But for why I prefer ash lynch to no lynch now, it's mostly because he voted for me with the worst possible reason. Also because self-preservation. I still like no lynch.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 1)
« Reply #423 on: May 12, 2019, 07:16:51 am »

Hmm, I reread Uncle, and I have a big question:

@Eddie, can you explain every single vote you did? Because I can't see any good explanation for any of them (except the raerae one I suppose). Is uncle even here? I hope he wakes up before the day's over...
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« Reply #424 on: May 12, 2019, 07:17:59 am »

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