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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1075 on: May 23, 2019, 01:11:51 pm »

Mix, did your poem mention ashersky explicitly by name?

No, and it seemed to go to great lenghts to avoid saying any names. Although it refered to him in a very clear way, there's no one else it could refer to.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1076 on: May 23, 2019, 01:12:27 pm »

Mix, did your poem mention ashersky explicitly by name?

No, and it seemed to go to great lenghts to avoid saying any names. Although it refered to him in a very clear way, there's no one else it could refer to.

Absolutely no one?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1077 on: May 23, 2019, 01:12:38 pm »

Yay Awaclus understands me.

Fabulous but I still don't.  What I'm reading is, "If I were not VFD it would be anti-town for me to claim not-VFD."  Tell me what I'm missing because it seems like you're saying it would be anti-town for you to do exactly what you did in which case, explain why I shouldn't vote for you right now.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1078 on: May 23, 2019, 01:14:26 pm »

Mix, did your poem mention ashersky explicitly by name?

No, and it seemed to go to great lenghts to avoid saying any names. Although it refered to him in a very clear way, there's no one else it could refer to.

Absolutely no one?

Well, it mentioned mine...but no, no other names.

Yay Awaclus understands me.

Fabulous but I still don't.  What I'm reading is, "If I were not VFD it would be anti-town for me to claim not-VFD."  Tell me what I'm missing because it seems like you're saying it would be anti-town for you to do exactly what you did in which case, explain why I shouldn't vote for you right now.

I meant "If I were VFD it would be anti-town for me to claim not-VFD".
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1079 on: May 23, 2019, 01:19:26 pm »

Why did you get the note, MiX?  Was there any reason given?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1080 on: May 23, 2019, 01:23:08 pm »

Why did you get the note, MiX?  Was there any reason given?

No real reason given, no.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1081 on: May 23, 2019, 01:24:30 pm »

ADK, were you given a reason?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1082 on: May 23, 2019, 01:27:27 pm »

Actually, does MiX want to change his claim about not being a volunteer now that the cat about my role is explicitly out of the bag? I suppose it wouldn't have been very difficult for people to guess my role in the first place, just wanting to confirm this before I make night decisions based on MiX's claim.

I already claimed I'm a VT. It would be extremely anti-town for me to say I'm not VFD after you softclaimed D1 like that, I don't see why people thought I could be VFD. But, again, VFD have some strange powers so maybe that would make sense.

But...that's what you did?

Yeah and it would be anti-town for him to do that [unless he actually was not VFD].
Still confused. 

Awaclus, is mix town or being anti-town, both, or neither?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1083 on: May 23, 2019, 01:30:02 pm »

ADK, were you given a reason?

There's no content to the message other than the poem, the gist of poem is "there's a player that you should trust", there's an oblique reference to the player that could be read a couple of different ways. The player in question is referred to with masculine pronouns.

I'm also not discounting the possibility that it was sent by scum to try and muddy the waters, although the most likely character flavorwise to be sending poetry is likely town, so...
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1084 on: May 23, 2019, 01:35:09 pm »

ADK, were you given a reason?

There's no content to the message other than the poem, the gist of poem is "there's a player that you should trust", there's an oblique reference to the player that could be read a couple of different ways. The player in question is referred to with masculine pronouns.

I'm also not discounting the possibility that it was sent by scum to try and muddy the waters, although the most likely character flavorwise to be sending poetry is likely town, so...

Do you think there's 2 scum messengers? That's really the thing I don't understand here, that you don't trust the second messenger given one already flipped as scum.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1085 on: May 23, 2019, 01:45:32 pm »

Awaclus, is mix town or being anti-town, both, or neither?

Let me rephrase the conversation:

Awaclus: MiX, did you fakeclaim?
MiX: I did not.

Does it make sense now?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1086 on: May 23, 2019, 01:47:35 pm »

Do you think there's 2 scum messengers? That's really the thing I don't understand here, that you don't trust the second messenger given one already flipped as scum.

There could be, or the same messenger could be able to send multiple messages for some reason.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1087 on: May 23, 2019, 01:50:18 pm »

ADK, were you given a reason?

There's no content to the message other than the poem, the gist of poem is "there's a player that you should trust", there's an oblique reference to the player that could be read a couple of different ways. The player in question is referred to with masculine pronouns.

I'm also not discounting the possibility that it was sent by scum to try and muddy the waters, although the most likely character flavorwise to be sending poetry is likely town, so...

Do you think there's 2 scum messengers? That's really the thing I don't understand here, that you don't trust the second messenger given one already flipped as scum.

There could be, it's a closed setup, who knows how Joth was thinking. And it's possible that the non-volunteer non-baudelaire powers were distributed independent of alignment, like in DS9.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1088 on: May 23, 2019, 01:50:48 pm »

So I think faust is Esme and MiX is Olaf.  Likely MiX is a godfather or something that wouldn't investigate as VFD.  Neither claimed role makes sense with flavor and everybody else's does.

ADK, can you claim your flavor name, please?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1089 on: May 23, 2019, 01:50:52 pm »

Do you think there's 2 scum messengers? That's really the thing I don't understand here, that you don't trust the second messenger given one already flipped as scum.

There could be, or the same messenger could be able to send multiple messages for some reason.

I mean, that would require Eddie sending messages from beyond the grave, since I received my second message after he died.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1090 on: May 23, 2019, 01:51:15 pm »

So I think faust is Esme and MiX is Olaf.  Likely MiX is a godfather or something that wouldn't investigate as VFD.  Neither claimed role makes sense with flavor and everybody else's does.

ADK, can you claim your flavor name, please?

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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1091 on: May 23, 2019, 02:00:56 pm »

I'm pretty heavily considering spilling all my beans.  I think it ensures a win.  It feels like leaving things open to interpretation would be detrimental.  ADK, your call.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1092 on: May 23, 2019, 02:02:29 pm »

I'm pretty heavily considering spilling all my beans.  I think it ensures a win.  It feels like leaving things open to interpretation would be detrimental.  ADK, your call.

Unless you have a targetted commute I can't see any scenario where claiming everything is good, Then again I think you think I'm scum so obviously your plan won't work. But maybe you have even MORE powers, some that I couldn't even begin imagining...
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1093 on: May 23, 2019, 02:07:53 pm »

I'm pretty heavily considering spilling all my beans.  I think it ensures a win.  It feels like leaving things open to interpretation would be detrimental.  ADK, your call.

How confident are you that I've correctly identified the thing you know? If you're confident in that then I don't see the need to claim.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1094 on: May 23, 2019, 02:12:53 pm »

I'm pretty heavily considering spilling all my beans.  I think it ensures a win.  It feels like leaving things open to interpretation would be detrimental.  ADK, your call.

How confident are you that I've correctly identified the thing you know? If you're confident in that then I don't see the need to claim.

I was confident but I know something about N3 that makes me unsure. 
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1095 on: May 23, 2019, 02:16:17 pm »

I'm pretty heavily considering spilling all my beans.  I think it ensures a win.  It feels like leaving things open to interpretation would be detrimental.  ADK, your call.

How confident are you that I've correctly identified the thing you know? If you're confident in that then I don't see the need to claim.

I was confident but I know something about N3 that makes me unsure.

Do you know who I targeted N3?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1096 on: May 23, 2019, 02:17:09 pm »

I'm pretty heavily considering spilling all my beans.  I think it ensures a win.  It feels like leaving things open to interpretation would be detrimental.  ADK, your call.

How confident are you that I've correctly identified the thing you know? If you're confident in that then I don't see the need to claim.

I was confident but I know something about N3 that makes me unsure.

Do you know who I targeted N3?

I know who somebody else targeted and it wasn't the person it should have been.
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1097 on: May 23, 2019, 02:20:26 pm »

I know who somebody else targeted and it wasn't the person it should have been.

Oh ShiT, do I actually have a false positive on faust or are you talking about someone else?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1098 on: May 23, 2019, 02:21:53 pm »

I know who somebody else targeted and it wasn't the person it should have been.

Oh ShiT, do I actually have a false positive on faust or are you talking about someone else?

Did you get a note last night?
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Re: RMM53: A Series of Unfortunate Nightkills (Day 4)
« Reply #1099 on: May 23, 2019, 02:24:19 pm »

I know who somebody else targeted and it wasn't the person it should have been.

Oh ShiT, do I actually have a false positive on faust or are you talking about someone else?

Did you get a note last night?

I didn't as far as I can tell. There's nothing in my QT about it.
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