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Temper Tantrum
« on: February 12, 2019, 01:08:01 am »
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Is it appropriate to post screenshots of a chat between myself and my opponent from a recent game?  Part of me says no... but this player had a serious meltdown - snide remarks and angry outbursts, sprinkled with profanity - and I want to reveal it.
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Re: Temper Tantrum
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2019, 01:10:34 am »
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If posting screenshots of a chat are a faux pas, I guess I could always just paste the text of the chat with the opponent's name redacted.
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Re: Temper Tantrum
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2019, 04:09:25 pm »
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Please redact the name ...and bring 'em on!!!

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Re: Temper Tantrum
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2019, 06:08:27 pm »
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I get some strange satisfaction out of reading these kinds of things....so I'd be happy if you posted it. It's funny to see people melt down over one online game.
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Re: Temper Tantrum
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2019, 11:20:58 pm »
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Alright, below is the link to a sequence of screenshots along with some commentary, including the list of kingdom cards, in certain places where extra explanation could be helpful.  I'll unabashedly admit that I was taking a lot longer on my turns than my opponent was on their turns.  I'm very experienced with Dominion, Intrigue, Seaside, Prosperity, and Dark Ages.  I have very limited exposure to the other expansions.  In this game I tried to be deliberate and methodical in strategizing - long-term and hand-to-hand - in order to minimize my chance of overlooking combinations, subtleties, nuances, etc.

https://imgur.com/a/ih5ru16

My opponent resigned in the middle of their turn, after getting what was presumably an unsatisfactory Margrave draw.  The turn count was in the mid-teens, I think.  My opponent was harboring a 5-10 point deficit and at least 4 debt due to gaining a City Quarter on the previous turn.  Sadly, I can't give all of these details with perfect accuracy because I can't review the post-game board.  I don't have the subscription for all of the expansions.

I had purchased Provinces on two of my last three turns, I think, and I was consistently drawing my deck each turn.  I was getting +3-7 draw (and +3-4 actions) at the start of each turn due to Haunted Woods and Ghost Towns.  This was practically negating my opponents' Margrave and Villain attacks.  I was getting more +draw from Margrave and Secret Passage.  I was getting more +action and Villagers from Border Village and Patron, respectively.  I was getting +coins and Coffers from Patron and Villain, respectively.  I was trashing/gaining with Altars.  My opponent's deck's prospects were grim in comparison, probably largely due to a snowball effect caused by a prolonged neglect of Haunted Woods on a board heavy with hand-size attacks.  I would argue that haste was my opponent's Achilles' Heel.

So there you have it.  Hopefully this is coherent enough, despite my description being divided between this post and Imgur.  Please excuse any typos.  This process was exhausting.
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Re: Temper Tantrum
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2019, 07:35:43 am »
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I have very limited exposure to the other expansions.  In this game I tried to be deliberate and methodical in strategizing - long-term and hand-to-hand - in order to minimize my chance of overlooking combinations, subtleties, nuances, etc.

I would guess your style of play will elicit similar reactions around your opponents, who will want to play the game with a whimsier approach. You made it very clear at the beginning that you were about to take a thinkier route, which is great, but be aware that this style of play is not for everyone.  Unfortunately the interface has no time control, and time taken for turns is not a matching criterion, so we are seeing these kind of encounters more often. I have been on both sides of this (including my oppponent falling asleep) and while I think you did nothing wrong regarding manners (and opponent did a lot wrong), both sides could have been more outreaching. In the way that he could have said "Look, this is not what I expected nor enjoy, so either you try to speed up or I'll resign".

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Re: Temper Tantrum
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2019, 11:41:37 am »
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I think the biggest mistake was that your opponent claims to have been awake for 22 hours, yet they are playing on their computer....Maybe they wouldn't be so crabby after some sleep.
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Re: Temper Tantrum
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2019, 12:00:52 pm »
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I think the biggest mistake was that your opponent claims to have been awake for 22 hours, yet they are playing on their computer....Maybe they wouldn't be so crabby after some sleep.

If I had followed that advice, we would have discovered Travelling Fair/Fool's Gold significantly later than we did.
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Re: Temper Tantrum
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2019, 12:49:11 pm »
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I think the biggest mistake was that your opponent claims to have been awake for 22 hours, yet they are playing on their computer....Maybe they wouldn't be so crabby after some sleep.

If I had followed that advice, we would have discovered Travelling Fair/Fool's Gold significantly later than we did.

I guess my point is if you're going to stay up for that long voluntarily, don't complain about it and use it as an excuse.  Just deal with it or go to sleep.
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Re: Temper Tantrum
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2019, 08:46:20 pm »
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I have very limited exposure to the other expansions.  In this game I tried to be deliberate and methodical in strategizing - long-term and hand-to-hand - in order to minimize my chance of overlooking combinations, subtleties, nuances, etc.

Unfortunately the interface has no time control, and time taken for turns is not a matching criterion, so we are seeing these kind of encounters more often.

I agree, it would be nice if I could filter for matches with slower, more patient players.  I wonder if a feature like that would ever be developed and implemented.
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