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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2250 on: March 26, 2019, 03:21:01 am »

Faust, would you mind spewing some of your hidden knowledge for finished?
Yes.

Is the “Why Snow” bit too much as well?
Yes. I'm IC now, I don't think it is beneficial for me to share my reads at this point.

How do you feel about our little Space wagon now?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2251 on: March 26, 2019, 03:57:45 am »

Vote: UoS

Do you believe there's any incentive to let Snow live 1 more day to get one more cop result? Because he might simply get NKd if there's MU...
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2252 on: March 26, 2019, 04:12:14 am »

Vote: UoS

Do you believe there's any incentive to let Snow live 1 more day to get one more cop result? Because he might simply get NKd if there's MU...
I don't know. Do you?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2253 on: March 26, 2019, 05:01:09 am »

Vote: UoS

Do you believe there's any incentive to let Snow live 1 more day to get one more cop result? Because he might simply get NKd if there's MU...
I don't know. Do you?

Yes, given that his likely parter is Didds anyway, I would rather lynch her first.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2254 on: March 26, 2019, 06:22:05 am »

I like being right.

IC!faust is whatevs, would have preferred someone harder to read (or me).  Regardless I assume he’ll take even more charge.

Please don’t give cops passes (like MiX did in his immediate reaction to efoo).
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2255 on: March 26, 2019, 06:28:12 am »

This is the LaLight wagon as of #737:

LaLight (5): Uncleeurope, MiX, WestCoastDidds, UmbrageOfSnow, shraeye

How many Maquis are on there?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2256 on: March 26, 2019, 06:35:00 am »

Please don’t give cops passes (like MiX did in his immediate reaction to efoo).

My entire case on Space fell apart and Didds became conf!Maquis in my eyes, what else would I do? Still scumreading Space and EFHW but we have much better odds lynching Maquis today, especially when you consider that they have to (attempt to) NK EFHW tonight. What should I have done instead?

This is the LaLight wagon as of #737:

LaLight (5): Uncleeurope, MiX, WestCoastDidds, UmbrageOfSnow, shraeye

How many Maquis are on there?

That is the question of the century. But a "2" answer implicates ash and raerae, which I think are town...on the other hand, "3" is just so unlikely...

I think...I'll have to sheep you. But...no, I can't see raerae as scum. So should I vote ash? Let's see where this goes first...

Vote: UoS, L-2

I hope you're right...
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2257 on: March 26, 2019, 06:47:40 am »

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2258 on: March 26, 2019, 07:06:51 am »

unvote

Hehe. Must be fun to be IC. Okay, okay, I'll vote by my own reasons...but that vote count does work against a shraeye/didds/snow team.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2259 on: March 26, 2019, 07:17:28 am »

Please don’t give cops passes (like MiX did in his immediate reaction to efoo).
Personally I am all for giving EFHW a pass.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2260 on: March 26, 2019, 07:58:53 am »

This is the LaLight wagon as of #737:

LaLight (5): Uncleeurope, MiX, WestCoastDidds, UmbrageOfSnow, shraeye

How many Maquis are on there?

Yeah, I pointed that out at #2210. I said "the game state at #750" in my post, I'm referring to the exact same wagon, which Shraeye jumped off and onto around then. I think it's slight evidence for a Maquis between raerae and Ash.

Raerae insists we can't assume too much about how Shraeye would behave in the presence of partners, but I also think it's not just up to him, and staying on a wagon with both partners would involve the partners not losing their nerve and moving off somewhere else too. The first unflipped person to jump off that wagon was Eddie.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2261 on: March 26, 2019, 08:00:06 am »

Please don’t give cops passes (like MiX did in his immediate reaction to efoo).
Personally I am all for giving EFHW a pass.

We know EFHW can't be Maquis if she's the Maquis cop, though, right?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2262 on: March 26, 2019, 08:02:16 am »

Yeah, I pointed that out at #2210. I said "the game state at #750" in my post, I'm referring to the exact same wagon, which Shraeye jumped off and onto around then. I think it's slight evidence for a Maquis between raerae and Ash.
I was surpsied that I missed this, then I read the post and saw that you used the phrase "not-definitely-non-Maquis" and udnerstood why I didn't parse it at the time.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2263 on: March 26, 2019, 08:23:29 am »

Faust, would you mind spewing some of your hidden knowledge for finished?
Yes.

Is the “Why Snow” bit too much as well?
Yes. I'm IC now, I don't think it is beneficial for me to share my reads at this point.

How do you feel about our little Space wagon now?

Space has decreased in likelihood significantly.

And definitely shouldn't die today.

Part of me wonders if EFHW and Space are MU buddies.


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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2264 on: March 26, 2019, 08:24:23 am »

I like being right.

Wait...right about what?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2265 on: March 26, 2019, 08:30:00 am »

This is the LaLight wagon as of #737:

LaLight (5): Uncleeurope, MiX, WestCoastDidds, UmbrageOfSnow, shraeye

How many Maquis are on there?

Yeah, I pointed that out at #2210. I said "the game state at #750" in my post, I'm referring to the exact same wagon, which Shraeye jumped off and onto around then. I think it's slight evidence for a Maquis between raerae and Ash.

Raerae insists we can't assume too much about how Shraeye would behave in the presence of partners, but I also think it's not just up to him, and staying on a wagon with both partners would involve the partners not losing their nerve and moving off somewhere else too. The first unflipped person to jump off that wagon was Eddie.

Is this a scenario where I lose my nerve voting with a partner on a target? Because I doubt that would faze me. It at least hasn’t in the past.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2266 on: March 26, 2019, 08:32:43 am »

This is the LaLight wagon as of #737:

LaLight (5): Uncleeurope, MiX, WestCoastDidds, UmbrageOfSnow, shraeye

How many Maquis are on there?

Yeah, I pointed that out at #2210. I said "the game state at #750" in my post, I'm referring to the exact same wagon, which Shraeye jumped off and onto around then. I think it's slight evidence for a Maquis between raerae and Ash.

Raerae insists we can't assume too much about how Shraeye would behave in the presence of partners, but I also think it's not just up to him, and staying on a wagon with both partners would involve the partners not losing their nerve and moving off somewhere else too. The first unflipped person to jump off that wagon was Eddie.

Is this a scenario where I lose my nerve voting with a partner on a target? Because I doubt that would faze me. It at least hasn’t in the past.

No, it's when you jump ship once you realize all of your scumteam's on the wagon.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2267 on: March 26, 2019, 08:35:23 am »

And I’m saying I wouldn’t care.

Every game I have played on this site has had people close off potential partners based on voting in groups together. It’s why I did what I did last game.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2268 on: March 26, 2019, 08:47:23 am »

And I’m saying I wouldn’t care.

Every game I have played on this site has had people close off potential partners based on voting in groups together. It’s why I did what I did last game.

...which is why you didn't do it this game. But no you're right. I can't read you...but I think you're townier than ash, and that's all I need to

Vote: ashersky

From my perspective, (Snow/Didds) and (Uncle/ash/raerae) are scum. Given that raerae is towny and uncle seems to be townier than ash...yep, seems right.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2269 on: March 26, 2019, 08:50:49 am »

I thought Didds was conf!Scum?
 And if I am reading you right you are eliminating Snow and Didds as a partnership?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2270 on: March 26, 2019, 08:55:11 am »

I thought Didds was conf!Scum?
 And if I am reading you right you are eliminating Snow and Didds as a partnership?

Indeed. And that was before the wagon grab by faust, honestly didn't even see that SA had talked about it before because he didn't post it. Now I see Snow/ash or Didds/ash, before I just saw Didds/Snow
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2271 on: March 26, 2019, 09:05:06 am »

I thought Didds was conf!Scum?
 And if I am reading you right you are eliminating Snow and Didds as a partnership?

Indeed. And that was before the wagon grab by faust, honestly didn't even see that SA had talked about it before because he didn't post it. Now I see Snow/ash or Didds/ash, before I just saw Didds/Snow
Come on it's really not that difficult.

Please give me a few lines on why you are townreading raerae and Eddie.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2272 on: March 26, 2019, 09:11:14 am »

I thought Didds was conf!Scum?
 And if I am reading you right you are eliminating Snow and Didds as a partnership?

Indeed. And that was before the wagon grab by faust, honestly didn't even see that SA had talked about it before because he didn't post it. Now I see Snow/ash or Didds/ash, before I just saw Didds/Snow
Come on it's really not that difficult.

Please give me a few lines on why you are townreading raerae and Eddie.

Dammit! I blame mobile and multitasking and...sorry.

I'll answer your question when I have more time, but for raerae it's mostly because she's been relentlessly pushing me, which I think would look as super scummy after I flip, and Uncle seems completely different from M121, more gut for that.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2273 on: March 26, 2019, 10:03:03 am »

This is the LaLight wagon as of #737:

LaLight (5): Uncleeurope, MiX, WestCoastDidds, UmbrageOfSnow, shraeye

How many Maquis are on there?

Yeah, I pointed that out at #2210. I said "the game state at #750" in my post, I'm referring to the exact same wagon, which Shraeye jumped off and onto around then. I think it's slight evidence for a Maquis between raerae and Ash.

Raerae insists we can't assume too much about how Shraeye would behave in the presence of partners, but I also think it's not just up to him, and staying on a wagon with both partners would involve the partners not losing their nerve and moving off somewhere else too. The first unflipped person to jump off that wagon was Eddie.

Is this a scenario where I lose my nerve voting with a partner on a target? Because I doubt that would faze me. It at least hasn’t in the past.

No, it's when you jump ship once you realize all of your scumteam's on the wagon.
This doesn't make sense to me. I said this before, but if I'm already on a wagon and my scum partner(s) join, I'm going to assume it was for a reason. They know I am there. If I leave the wagon, it will be for some combination of reasons and not the automatic reflex MiX is painting it as.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #2274 on: March 26, 2019, 10:06:17 am »

The problem with jumping on a wagon that has your partners on it is that then you have to count on town making up the rest of the wagon. You are less likely to achieve the lynch if your team is a big part of the initial wagon. So, how serious were the wagon members about trying to get LL lynched?
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