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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« Reply #1725 on: March 19, 2019, 02:06:27 am »

Why was Raerae your first instinct?

Oh I just finished a reread as well. I can recommend it.

Vote: raerae

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« Reply #1726 on: March 19, 2019, 02:40:55 am »

Why was Raerae your first instinct?

Oh I just finished a reread as well. I can recommend it.

Vote: raerae
She stuck out the most when rereading shraeye. Then I reread all the people who stuck out and decided that actually, e is the scummiest.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« Reply #1727 on: March 19, 2019, 03:09:28 am »

Why was Raerae your first instinct?

Oh I just finished a reread as well. I can recommend it.

Vote: raerae
She stuck out the most when rereading shraeye. Then I reread all the people who stuck out and decided that actually, e is the scummiest.

Who would you want to kill if it wasn't e?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« Reply #1728 on: March 19, 2019, 03:28:33 am »

Why was Raerae your first instinct?

Oh I just finished a reread as well. I can recommend it.

Vote: raerae
She stuck out the most when rereading shraeye. Then I reread all the people who stuck out and decided that actually, e is the scummiest.

Who would you want to kill if it wasn't e?
I do not want to answer that question.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« Reply #1729 on: March 19, 2019, 03:32:24 am »

Why was Raerae your first instinct?

Oh I just finished a reread as well. I can recommend it.

Vote: raerae
She stuck out the most when rereading shraeye. Then I reread all the people who stuck out and decided that actually, e is the scummiest.

Who would you want to kill if it wasn't e?
I do not want to answer that question.

Well that is unfortunate. How many people are on your okay-to-kill-today list? And how many are you satisfied with?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« Reply #1730 on: March 19, 2019, 03:36:41 am »

Why was Raerae your first instinct?

Oh I just finished a reread as well. I can recommend it.

Vote: raerae
She stuck out the most when rereading shraeye. Then I reread all the people who stuck out and decided that actually, e is the scummiest.

Who would you want to kill if it wasn't e?
I do not want to answer that question.

Well that is unfortunate. How many people are on your okay-to-kill-today list? And how many are you satisfied with?
I don't have a list like that.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« Reply #1731 on: March 19, 2019, 03:53:43 am »

Why was Raerae your first instinct?

Oh I just finished a reread as well. I can recommend it.

Vote: raerae
She stuck out the most when rereading shraeye. Then I reread all the people who stuck out and decided that actually, e is the scummiest.

Who would you want to kill if it wasn't e?
I do not want to answer that question.

Well that is unfortunate. How many people are on your okay-to-kill-today list? And how many are you satisfied with?
I don't have a list like that.

Okay, well did you think of a name when I asked my initial question?

I don''t know why I am pursuing this, but it seems important for me getting a read on you, despite how meaningless any information I achieve is, now.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« Reply #1732 on: March 19, 2019, 04:21:12 am »

Okay, well did you think of a name when I asked my initial question?
Yes.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 2)
« Reply #1733 on: March 19, 2019, 04:46:22 am »

Okay, well did you think of a name when I asked my initial question?
Yes.

Perfect.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1734 on: March 19, 2019, 05:18:47 am »

Okay, raerae, who would you vote for after MiX?

I want MiX, why do I have to compromise on that? I'm constantly accused of knowing anything and everything about shraeye, a shraerae team accusation gets made every game we're in, yet now when I actually feel confident about something related to him I'm dismissed because how could I ever possibly know anything about how shraeye thinks? It's nonsense. I'm not moving.

So your vote is locked in? No other person will be receiving your vote today? No other human in this game is worthy of suspicion at this moment?

I feel strongly enough that MiX is scum that I don't want to move. I'm pissed that people have dismissed my case because I couldn't possibly know what my husband (the man I've known since we were 14) could possibly be thinking. So, in defense of myself, in defiance of other loud voices in the game, and out of a not small amount of stubbornness, you're right and my vote is locked.

I am assuming I did not read your MiX case closely enough, so I will re-do that now.
Also though - you should probably read some other cases if you have time before DL. Tunneling one person at this junction is most likely not good for town.

Do you think I haven't been reading? Sticking to my guns and ignoring the game are two different things. I don't love the e case, don't really even like it, and I'm feeling less good about faust this game than last. He feels the same about me I'd guess so that doesn't really mean much.  But I have nothing other than feelings to go on there, I can't even give a blow by blow of what I don't like about the case, it just doesn't feel right to me.  I'm not sure about chicken because he's new so while I agree with some points made I'm not comfortable enough that he's scum to dive in on that one.

... I just meant I thought i missed your E! case and needed to re read it. didn't mean to imply anything else.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1735 on: March 19, 2019, 07:09:41 am »

ashersky, where are you likely to vote?

Anyone but me, basically.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1736 on: March 19, 2019, 07:40:10 am »

Didds, you don't like the e wagon because Eddie is on it, but you don't list Eddie as one of the people you would lynch. How does that work?

Ehhh....he jumps around a lot so Iím not convinced heíll stay, although the longer that persists the less relevant this is. But if he stays just long enough for it to reach a critical mass and then hops, that feels disengenious to me. So, a rather minor point, but between the (increasingly suspicious) faust, MiX, and Eddie, itís just seems like a rather unattractive option. If there were more of my town reads locked in there, Iíd feel more secure.

What do you think, EFHW, of the pressure that faust is giving me about weighing options? Does this fit into your manipulation narrative about him this game? It feels decidedly odd to me.

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1737 on: March 19, 2019, 08:00:57 am »

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1738 on: March 19, 2019, 08:36:34 am »

Okay, raerae, who would you vote for after MiX?

I want MiX, why do I have to compromise on that? I'm constantly accused of knowing anything and everything about shraeye, a shraerae team accusation gets made every game we're in, yet now when I actually feel confident about something related to him I'm dismissed because how could I ever possibly know anything about how shraeye thinks? It's nonsense. I'm not moving.

So your vote is locked in? No other person will be receiving your vote today? No other human in this game is worthy of suspicion at this moment?

I feel strongly enough that MiX is scum that I don't want to move. I'm pissed that people have dismissed my case because I couldn't possibly know what my husband (the man I've known since we were 14) could possibly be thinking. So, in defense of myself, in defiance of other loud voices in the game, and out of a not small amount of stubbornness, you're right and my vote is locked.

Will you ever admit that you were wrong when I flip town?

Didds, you don't like the e wagon because Eddie is on it, but you don't list Eddie as one of the people you would lynch. How does that work?

Ehhh....he jumps around a lot so Iím not convinced heíll stay, although the longer that persists the less relevant this is. But if he stays just long enough for it to reach a critical mass and then hops, that feels disengenious to me. So, a rather minor point, but between the (increasingly suspicious) faust, MiX, and Eddie, itís just seems like a rather unattractive option. If there were more of my town reads locked in there, Iíd feel more secure.

What do you think, EFHW, of the pressure that faust is giving me about weighing options? Does this fit into your manipulation narrative about him this game? It feels decidedly odd to me.

Hmm...what do you actually think of Eddie? Is he scum? Is he town? Null? Not liking how someone votes isn't a reason for not joining whatever wagon they're on.


And now, @chicken, what are your scumreads? And what do you think of Space and EFHW?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1739 on: March 19, 2019, 09:11:23 am »

Hmm...what do you actually think of Eddie? Is he scum? Is he town? Null? Not liking how someone votes isn't a reason for not joining whatever wagon they're on.

Sure it is. You say that like it is a universal truth.  It might not be a reason for you, but that isnít true of everybody. And looking at the wagon and thinking about who is on it, is definitely one of the things I do.

As far as Eddieís status....somewhere between null and scum.

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1740 on: March 19, 2019, 10:07:31 am »

What do you think, EFHW, of the pressure that faust is giving me about weighing options? Does this fit into your manipulation narrative about him this game? It feels decidedly odd to me.
My guess is that you are his second choice after e so he is trying to make things uncomfortable for you.

My concern about manipulation is that the Awaclus case felt very iffy to me. Like he was spinning things as scummy as opposed to actually finding scummy things. His case on e feels very much the same.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1741 on: March 19, 2019, 10:08:53 am »

Okay, I'm here. I still feel like garbage and I'm not sure if I'll be able to get all the way caught up because I have a bunch of other stuff I need to catch up on today too, I've been useless in all areas of my life not just forum mafia.

If there's anything anyone asked me that they want a response to, point it out for me and I'll address it, and I'll try to do some catching up and giving my thoughts over the course of the day.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1742 on: March 19, 2019, 10:15:31 am »

Odds are actually better than usual that I'll be around for deadline tomorrow, but I'll probably only be active for like the last hour or so before deadline.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1743 on: March 19, 2019, 10:17:58 am »

Okay, raerae, who would you vote for after MiX?

I want MiX, why do I have to compromise on that? I'm constantly accused of knowing anything and everything about shraeye, a shraerae team accusation gets made every game we're in, yet now when I actually feel confident about something related to him I'm dismissed because how could I ever possibly know anything about how shraeye thinks? It's nonsense. I'm not moving.

So your vote is locked in? No other person will be receiving your vote today? No other human in this game is worthy of suspicion at this moment?

I feel strongly enough that MiX is scum that I don't want to move. I'm pissed that people have dismissed my case because I couldn't possibly know what my husband (the man I've known since we were 14) could possibly be thinking. So, in defense of myself, in defiance of other loud voices in the game, and out of a not small amount of stubbornness, you're right and my vote is locked.
My issue with your case is that there are many possible reasons for why Shraeye's team killed Glooble. If MiX is scum, then Glooble's suspecting him would have been a factor. But MiX could be town and Shraeye's team would still have compelling reasons to nk Glooble. He was going to be hard to lynch and at one point Shraeye had a scumread on him. So for me it doesn't follow that MiX HAS to be scum.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1744 on: March 19, 2019, 10:19:51 am »

I'm at basically the worst level of focus for this ever, so no promises, but I think this is the VC right now:

Vote Count 3.5.UoS

2.71828..... (3): UncleEurope, SpaceAnemone, MiX
chickenwarlord (3): DatSwan, 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds
MiX (2): raerae, chickenwarlord
faust (1): UmbrageOfSnow
UmbrageOfSnow (1): EFHW
Didds (1): faust

Not Voting (1): ashersky

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch most players. Day 3 will end at 12 pm forum time/US ET (16:00 GMT) on Wednesday, March 20th .
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1745 on: March 19, 2019, 10:22:27 am »

Space/MiX, could you two summarize the e case for me?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1746 on: March 19, 2019, 10:26:13 am »

My concern about manipulation is that the Awaclus case felt very iffy to me. Like he was spinning things as scummy as opposed to actually finding scummy things. His case on e feels very much the same.
I don't understand how the two would feel the same. The Awaclus push had some amount of insincerity of course, since I had a hidden agenda. I don't understand how the e case is similar however... with Awaclus, I have tunneled him all day, hammering home the same point over and over again. With e, I have deliberately withheld my thoughts in order to get unbiased rereads from other players, I have only made the case when pressed and it involves an evaluation of his whole game and interactions rather than just a single vote. The two things are different in basically every respect.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1747 on: March 19, 2019, 10:29:08 am »

Vote Count 3.6
Worf looks up at the sound of the turbolift, and is greeted by the odd sight of Kasidy Yates and Morn, marching towards his office. He walks out to meet them.
"Why are our ships being detained?" asks Kasidy. Morn nods in agreement.
"We have had six murders in the last three days," says Worf. "It would be irresponsible to allow any civilian traffic to leave the station until the murderers are caught."
"We'll see about that," says Kasidy.

Vote count:
faust (1): UmbrageOfSnow
2.71828..... (3): UncleEurope, SpaceAnemone, MiX
UmbrageOfSnow (1): EFHW
chickenwarlord (3): DatSwan, 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds
MiX (2): raerae, chickenwarlord
WCD (1): faust
Not Voting (1): ashersky
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch most players. Day 3 will end at 12 pm forum time/US ET (16:00 GMT) on Wednesday, March 20th . That's in a little over 24 hours, folks.


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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1748 on: March 19, 2019, 10:34:18 am »

Okay, let's ruin Glooble's hard work
Vote: MiX

2.71828..... (3): UncleEurope, SpaceAnemone, MiX
chickenwarlord (3): DatSwan, 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds
MiX (3): raerae, chickenwarlord, Umbrageofsnow

UmbrageOfSnow (1): EFHW
WCD (1): faust
Not Voting (1): ashersky
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 3)
« Reply #1749 on: March 19, 2019, 10:59:42 am »

Vote: WCD
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