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Author Topic: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)  (Read 91370 times)

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1325 on: March 10, 2019, 10:30:03 pm »

I donít necessarily see anything specific either, just wondering why WCD shad a vote on Awaclus for awhile but now sees MiX as scummier once a power role makes a push on him.
Isn't anybody pushing anybody "a power role making a push"??

Fine, whatever, but her switching from Awaclus to MiX as ďthe scummiest playerĒ seems opportunistic.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1326 on: March 10, 2019, 10:31:26 pm »

I donít necessarily see anything specific either, just wondering why WCD shad a vote on Awaclus for awhile but now sees MiX as scummier once a power role makes a push on him.
Isn't anybody pushing anybody "a power role making a push"??

Fine, whatever, but her switching from Awaclus to MiX as ďthe scummiest playerĒ seems opportunistic.

But aren't they equally viable at this point? What makes it opportunistic?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1327 on: March 10, 2019, 10:33:36 pm »

Stating that MiX is the scummiest between the two, after having sat on Awaclus for a long time, and and just throwing that line out seems like justification.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1328 on: March 10, 2019, 10:38:18 pm »

Stating that MiX is the scummiest between the two, after having sat on Awaclus for a long time, and and just throwing that line out seems like justification.

I guess I'd qualify it as odd but not opportunistic. We, however, are allowed to have different opinions of things. Que bueno.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1329 on: March 10, 2019, 10:40:40 pm »

Stating that MiX is the scummiest between the two, after having sat on Awaclus for a long time, and and just throwing that line out seems like justification.

I guess I'd qualify it as odd but not opportunistic. We, however, are allowed to have different opinions of things. Que bueno.

Well, thatís why I asked WCD.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1330 on: March 10, 2019, 10:44:02 pm »

Stating that MiX is the scummiest between the two, after having sat on Awaclus for a long time, and and just throwing that line out seems like justification.
But that also describes me, which is sure to make Spaces eyebrows fall off.  Coincidences aside, I am interested in hearing more from WCD
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1331 on: March 10, 2019, 10:48:40 pm »

Vote: WCD
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1332 on: March 10, 2019, 10:55:07 pm »

Oh, come on, UncleEddie, you're really trying to make another wagon?? This late in the day?? That's almost as stinky as the faust wagon.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1333 on: March 10, 2019, 10:58:12 pm »

I was already on Space, not doing anything I havenít done yet.

And it canít be stinky if itís right.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1334 on: March 10, 2019, 11:05:37 pm »

I was already on Space, not doing anything I havenít done yet.

And it canít be stinky if itís right.

Yes it can. Itís multiball.
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real good. Thatís how
Town:  12 wins, 9 losses (1 MVP)
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1335 on: March 10, 2019, 11:16:05 pm »

I was already on Space, not doing anything I havenít done yet.

And it canít be stinky if itís right.

Yes it can. Itís multiball.

*shrugs*
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 1)
« Reply #1336 on: March 10, 2019, 11:19:19 pm »

Thar be scum in these here players.

This faust wagon happened really fast and I'm not super into it.
Hard no on that bs faust wagon. What in the actual hell??
faust wagon materializing out of nowhere stinks real bad.
The faust wagon is stinking up the joint!
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1337 on: March 10, 2019, 11:20:52 pm »

Don't really mean Glooble with that since he started it.

Also, where is this coming from, I've been pushing faust all game, I've given multiple reasons, Ash was on him for a different reason, MiX is doing self-preservation, Eddie votes for everyone. The only surprise is e, and he's been in lurkmode all day and hadn't really weighed in.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1338 on: March 10, 2019, 11:26:39 pm »

Vote: WCD

You know at a certain point this becomes more a commitment to being useless and having no impact on who gets lynched than a keeping-things-flexible strategy.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1339 on: March 10, 2019, 11:27:22 pm »

Vote: WCD

You know at a certain point this becomes more a commitment to being useless and having no impact on who gets lynched than a keeping-things-flexible strategy.

There are more goals that exist than those two.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1340 on: March 11, 2019, 01:40:12 am »

So, pretty sure what joth means by "forum time" is actually Pacific US time.

Can you please use a time zone for deadline timelines?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1341 on: March 11, 2019, 01:56:39 am »

Since I am not voting, might as well vote: Faust
Vote: faust
Vote: faust
PPE: Vote: faust while I reread the rest, also wow that's a lot of votes.
Vote: Faust

Nice teaming up when I just went to bed. I think Awaclus's vote for me reinforces my scumread. UoS has kind of explained why he thinks I am scum, and he is onto something, just not what he thinks. I am able to explain myself in a way that I think will show that I am town... but I'd really rather not, so can we just lynch Awaclus?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1342 on: March 11, 2019, 01:56:51 am »

Vote: WCD

You know at a certain point this becomes more a commitment to being useless and having no impact on who gets lynched than a keeping-things-flexible strategy.

There are more goals that exist than those two.

Like getting yourself lynched?

Vote: Eddie
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1343 on: March 11, 2019, 01:58:25 am »

Iíll be around before deadline.
You didn't want to join my wagon? Curios.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1344 on: March 11, 2019, 02:00:46 am »

@faust, do you think EFHW is scum?
Not particularly.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1345 on: March 11, 2019, 02:04:42 am »

Did I already mention that I am much more inclined to lunch Awaclus than MiX?

Not going to vote there yet, still plenty of time before the deadline
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 1)
« Reply #1346 on: March 11, 2019, 02:07:03 am »

I also have a question for faust. Faust, how random do you think D1 lynches are? Does the size of the game or the fact that its multiball change this?
I think D1 lynches are not very random. There are 2 factors coming in, one being town scumhunting, the other the scumteam working together for a mislynch. Both of these lead to a correct lynch ratio that is about the same as random, but that does not mean that the lynch choice is actually random.

I think multiball pushes things towards a) everyone genuinely scumhunting, thus more people scumhunting and potentially better results, but also b) everyone genuinely scumhunting, thus making it harder to pin down scum. i would think that overall this still means you'd get a higher than average chance of lynching scum.

The size of the game definitely makes scumhunting harder, thus allowing scum manipulation to be a bigger factor.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1347 on: March 11, 2019, 02:08:30 am »

So either:
2.71828....., Awaclus, UmbrageOfSnow, MiX, UncleEurope are all town
or:
faust is town
or:
Scum took MiX's statement and decided to bus faust.
I mean, it's the second, but also it's multiball, so this whole argument is fundamentally flawed.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1348 on: March 11, 2019, 02:09:34 am »

Extra double super vote: MiX
I do not assume this is for real, but you know... things like this should be avoided.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1349 on: March 11, 2019, 02:11:48 am »

ChickenWarlord newb pass needs to end tomorrow.
Honestly, given what MiX put out in his analysis a few pages back - I DO seem hella scummy and I'm surprised more people haven't put me as a vote.

That said, I think we gain a lot of info with a faust or an Awaclus lynch.

Vote: Awaclus

If this goes through and Awa is town, I'm going to be giving faust the side-eye, should I remain alive to do so.
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