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Author Topic: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)  (Read 310111 times)

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1300 on: March 10, 2019, 07:37:17 pm »

Argh.. new bugs to fix in my counter. Sorry about that.

It missed an all-caps vote with no space after the colon, and it counted "unvote: Eddie" as "vote: Eddie", which is not ideal!
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1301 on: March 10, 2019, 07:50:45 pm »

In other news, I've been re-reading Eddie. He really jumps around a lot, and makes a lot of votes without stating any sort of case. A few times I think I'm confused in my re-read because he also uses quotes very rarely so it's often necessary to dig back a bit with each post to see who he might be responding to. It seems to lead to a very un-auditable vote reasoning trail, which I think is something scum benefits from more than town.

These are the only people alive in the game who Eddie has notvoted for, though WCD, Ash, e and raerae are people he has professed to have a scumread or general suspicion on at least once in this game: DatSwan, WestCoastDidds, Shraeye, ashersky, 2.71828....., raerae

I'd have to re-do my re-read in order to check whether he's said a single thing about Shraeye. He did at least have a small tangle with Swan over the Gul Dukat claim and Swan's confusion over the godfather/miller distinction.

Anyway, I would not be averse to voting him, though can people who've played with him before please clarify whether he throws around quite so many scumreads and unaccounted votes in his usual town game, as he claims? One other thing I found mildly suspicious is that he asks WCD to give reasons why he's not on her radar at #1070, which seems a lot like fishing for a towncase to be made on him. He's done an awful lot of throwing suspicion all game, voting for one person while saying that things by two or three others are scummy, which seems to be probing where town are more or less willing to vote rather than trying to make cases on people for actually being scummy.

So I'll go with Vote: Eddie for now.

Deadline is lunch o'clock tomorrow, so that's accessible to me. If the Eddie wagon doesn't take off, or if enough people persuade me that this is just his normal town playstyle, then I'll be happy to move my vote back to the Awaclus wagon, or to see what else springs up overnight. I'm less happy with the faust one because if he's still alive D3 he'll have even more game stat analysis to help with, and yet won't be able to afford not to be totally pro-town about it.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Night 1)
« Reply #1302 on: March 10, 2019, 07:55:42 pm »

This faust wagon happened really fast and I'm not super into it. I'd still rather lynch Awaclus or even MiX. But I'm trying to keep an open mind. I'd love to know why everyone not named ashersky thinks faust is scummy.


You scumreading Jimmmm and hypothetical scum not wanting to NK him because he is ďlynchableĒ are not the same thing.

Unless you are saying that as scum. Then it is the same thing. I think this is one of those scumthoughts being spoken as a normal thing accidentally. 

Good enough for a vote: faust at this point.

These are the previous reasons ashersky alluded to. I agree it's potentially scummy, but I don't think it's quite enough on its own.

I also have a question for faust. Faust, how random do you think D1 lynches are? Does the size of the game or the fact that its multiball change this?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1303 on: March 10, 2019, 08:16:41 pm »

Vote: Space

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1304 on: March 10, 2019, 08:17:50 pm »

Vote: Awaclus
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #1305 on: March 10, 2019, 08:46:00 pm »

Vote Count 2.8

MiX (4): raerae, chickenwarlord, ashersky, shraeye
Awaclus (4): faust, WestCoastDidds, Glooble, DatSwan
Glooble (1): EFHW
faust (4): 2.71828....., Awaclus, UmbrageOfSnow, MiX
Uncleeurope (1): SpaceAnemone
SpaceAnemone (1): Uncleeurope

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1306 on: March 10, 2019, 08:46:16 pm »

In addition to the leading wagons, would still support faust or 2.7.  Faust for previous reasons, 2.7 for scumslipping (teams).
How could that be a scumslip?
Isn't that literally the argument you made???????
I said it could be a purposeful SK strategy to get town to be thinking there are two teams.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1307 on: March 10, 2019, 08:49:49 pm »

I'll also accept a faust or Awaclus lynch. Awaclus for their position in the wagon, unquestionable, which means he would (theoretically) be safe from VCAs today and faust for...hey, I actually like the manipulation case! But really just because the only way faust flips scum is if every single town joins on him. I'll have to reread him later...

MiX: What did you mean by every single town having to join on faust? And how hesitant are you, really, about an Awaclus lynch?

I don't think scum wants to bus faust.

I like this point.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1308 on: March 10, 2019, 08:55:31 pm »

So either:
2.71828....., Awaclus, UmbrageOfSnow, MiX, UncleEurope are all town
or:
faust is town
or:
Scum took MiX's statement and decided to bus faust.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1309 on: March 10, 2019, 08:57:06 pm »

The first two could simultaneously be true.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1310 on: March 10, 2019, 09:15:15 pm »

I reread Awaclus and don't want to vote him.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1311 on: March 10, 2019, 09:24:35 pm »

So either:
2.71828....., Awaclus, UmbrageOfSnow, MiX, UncleEurope are all town
or:
faust is town
or:
Scum took MiX's statement and decided to bus faust.

Or members of another scum team want to kill a scum Faust.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1312 on: March 10, 2019, 09:25:53 pm »

I don't like any of the 3 main choices. I didn't get any response to my Glooble case, except for him declining to respond. Is his overly helpful style in this game typical of him?

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1313 on: March 10, 2019, 09:28:06 pm »

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1314 on: March 10, 2019, 09:53:43 pm »

Hard no on that bs faust wagon. What in the actual hell??

Extra double super vote: MiX

He's been nothing if not opportunistic, he's jumped into every wagon ever, and lied, there's no other option, vote MiX.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1315 on: March 10, 2019, 10:04:09 pm »

raerae has got me literally laughing out loud.  But all her points are accurate; faust wagon materializing out of nowhere stinks real bad. 
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1316 on: March 10, 2019, 10:11:50 pm »

The faust wagon is stinking up the joint! Vote: MiX for being the scummiest of that lot
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1317 on: March 10, 2019, 10:13:25 pm »

The faust wagon is stinking up the joint! Vote: MiX for being the scummiest of that lot

Interesting, so you see MiX as scummier than Awaclus?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1318 on: March 10, 2019, 10:14:19 pm »

Hard no on that bs faust wagon. What in the actual hell??

Extra double super vote: MiX

He's been nothing if not opportunistic, he's jumped into every wagon ever, and lied, there's no other option, vote MiX.
Wouldn't he be more careful as scum?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1319 on: March 10, 2019, 10:15:04 pm »

The faust wagon is stinking up the joint! Vote: MiX for being the scummiest of that lot

Interesting, so you see MiX as scummier than Awaclus?
What do you think is scummy about Awaclus? I couldn't find anything.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1320 on: March 10, 2019, 10:15:55 pm »

I donít necessarily see anything specific either, just wondering why WCD shad a vote on Awaclus for awhile but now sees MiX as scummier once a power role makes a push on him.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1321 on: March 10, 2019, 10:19:44 pm »

Hard no on that bs faust wagon. What in the actual hell??

Extra double super vote: MiX

He's been nothing if not opportunistic, he's jumped into every wagon ever, and lied, there's no other option, vote MiX.
Wouldn't he be more careful as scum?

Doubtful. I think he'd play up his meta from last game. Too much of a switch would be too obvious
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 1)
« Reply #1322 on: March 10, 2019, 10:23:04 pm »

Vote Count 2.9

MiX (5): raerae, chickenwarlord, ashersky, shraeye, WestCoastDidds,
Awaclus (3): faust, Glooble, DatSwan
Glooble (1): EFHW
faust (4): 2.71828....., Awaclus, UmbrageOfSnow, MiX
Uncleeurope (1): SpaceAnemone
SpaceAnemone (1): Uncleeurope

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch most players. Day 2 ends at 8:00 am forum time, Monday March 11th. That's in less than 12 hours.

Also I'm going to sleep now and I won't be back until shortly before deadline.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1323 on: March 10, 2019, 10:27:17 pm »

I donít necessarily see anything specific either, just wondering why WCD shad a vote on Awaclus for awhile but now sees MiX as scummier once a power role makes a push on him.
Isn't anybody pushing anybody "a power role making a push"??
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 2)
« Reply #1324 on: March 10, 2019, 10:28:35 pm »

In addition to the leading wagons, would still support faust or 2.7.  Faust for previous reasons, 2.7 for scumslipping (teams).
How could that be a scumslip?
Isn't that literally the argument you made???????
I said it could be a purposeful SK strategy to get town to be thinking there are two teams.
I don't see the difference
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