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[Jimmmmm]

Responding to prod request. I think I'll be around at deadline.

[Chickenwarlord]

Vote Robbz

I guess it makes sense to throw my vote into the ring at this juncture. Robbz was my strongest scumread, and now that it is looking like we are converging for an actual lynch seems to have the most traction. If there is a big shift to Lalight I guess I could be persuaded, but I would much rather stick on this line.

[Chickenwarlord]

Vote: Robz888
Not sure how important the colon is for searching purposes, but I figured that actually using the correct name and format would help moderation.

[Uncleeurope]

Vote: Jimmmm

[Chickenwarlord]

Vote: Jimmmm

Are you moving your vote around to ensure that nobody gets lynched at this point. You seem to 'throw things out there', but at this point it just looks like you're trying to divide and play against any kind of united front.

[Uncleeurope]

Nope, just trying to make sure our options are open and an inevitability is avoided.

[Chickenwarlord]

Alright, I am going to try and get some rest. I will try to tune in later before the deadline should anyone make some serious moves.

[faust]

Robz888 -- Actually, his inactivity here doesn't feel totally like it did in RMM51. Here he seems to be reading and sheeping, rather than too busy to be present. I certainly have sympathy for people who find interacting with a big group on D1 tough, but that's not really the vibe I get from him either. Of the major wagons that I haven't ruled out, he's looking the most votable.

I really don't like this trying to create a scumread out of nothing. Robz is a lurker lynch, that's fine, but I don't think there is much of anything to scumread, and it reads like fake justification. I don't suppose we could get a Space wagon?

[Uncleeurope]

I would actually be fine with that.

[faust]

Let's do it.

Vote: Space

[Uncleeurope]

Vote: Space

[Swowl]

I was wrong. I will not be here. I do not think Robz is particularly skummy but I do not want my vote to go to waste and I do not want to vote for Space.


Vote: Robz


It is 1230am my time. DL is at 5am my time. I have set an alarm for 445am.... but there is like a negative 5 percent chance I wake up.

[jotheonah]

Vote count 1.8

LaLight (4): MiX, Shraeye, Glooble, Robz888
Robz888 (6): 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds, UmbrageofSnow, SpaceAnemone, chickenwarlord, DatSwan
Jimmmmm (1): raerae
raerae (2): ashersky, mcmcsalot
2.71828..... (2): LaLight, Awaclus
shraeye (1): Jimmmmm
SpaceAnemone (2): faust, Uncleeurope

With 18 Alive it takes 10 to lynch most players. Deadline is at 8 am Forum Time, in 4 hours. I’ll be on an hour before.

[MiX]

Let's do it.

Vote: Space

What? I doubt this is happening...but I'm on board!

Vote: Space

Please treat as my vote being simultaneously on LL and Space, otherwise people will give up on LL and then Robz dies. Also, what happened to the Jimmmmmm wagon?

Quickvote over, time to read what happened while I was gone, and before anyone says "MiX is jumping on every wagon!", I always prefered a Space lynch, but doubted it would happen.

[ashersky]

Of the “large” wagons, I find the SA one the least bad.

[2.71828.....]

I will be around until deadline on and off (house cleaning day) and able to move around to help a lynch happen

[MiX]

Then why is he on your "would lynch" list???  Your reads are EVERYWHERE.  I'm inherently mistrustful of being on any lynch with you because you just keep jumping to the one gaining the most steam.  Frankly, it makes me what to vote for whoever you DON'T want to vote for.

Because I've seen nothing townie to come out of Robz. It's not a good lynch, but it's preferable over nothing (shraeye come at me), and we need a LOT of coordination if we are to actually hit scum, so I'm willing to provide it.

Space's reread isn't half bad, really. Puts down thoughts that I haven't seen before. They didn't have to do this, really. Don't like all the discussion about me and whatnot, but I know that Space would take that into consideration no matter the alignment, so it's null. faust's case is actually pretty sweet, but there wasn't a lot of support for a Space lynch (just me), so I doubt he's trying to redirect the lynch.

Well, let's test my own case. So I thought Space was scummy for a bunch of fluff and a terrible vote in a terrible case (I'm biased, but still); they changed that with the read list. That definitely makes sense for either alignment, town!Space wants to be productive and scum!Space wants to...be productive. Yeeeeah. At this point I'm willing to trust faust, but there's one thing I want to ask...

@faust, do you agree with my case on Space? And do you think Space's new activity weakens/strengthens it? I think your case is weak (weaker than my case on LL) without my part, do you agree? If yes/no, why?

The above can be answered by everyone, by the way.

[SpaceAnemone]

Robz888 -- Actually, his inactivity here doesn't feel totally like it did in RMM51. Here he seems to be reading and sheeping, rather than too busy to be present. I certainly have sympathy for people who find interacting with a big group on D1 tough, but that's not really the vibe I get from him either. Of the major wagons that I haven't ruled out, he's looking the most votable.

I really don't like this trying to create a scumread out of nothing. Robz is a lurker lynch, that's fine, but I don't think there is much of anything to scumread, and it reads like fake justification. I don't suppose we could get a Space wagon?

I was not really trying to present a sudden scumread on Robz at all. I explicitly said that I feel he's not playing like RMM51 (where he was scum).. I just don't think that's enough of a justification for not voting for him, given that I needed to move for consolidation. I also said (in the Glooble and e parts of my reread that you haven't quoted above) that I agree with a bunch of stuff e's said on Robz.

If you want to present a better case on someone then I'm here till deadline and willing to move if there's a stronger justification than what I've seen so far. That goes for cases on people other than on me.. I'm still not sure self-voting is ever a good thing for town.

[Glooble]

Robz888 -- Actually, his inactivity here doesn't feel totally like it did in RMM51. Here he seems to be reading and sheeping, rather than too busy to be present. I certainly have sympathy for people who find interacting with a big group on D1 tough, but that's not really the vibe I get from him either. Of the major wagons that I haven't ruled out, he's looking the most votable.

I really don't like this trying to create a scumread out of nothing. Robz is a lurker lynch, that's fine, but I don't think there is much of anything to scumread, and it reads like fake justification. I don't suppose we could get a Space wagon?

Robz was scum in RMM51 (I mean you know that, you modded it.) so Space saying his inactivity feels different from that game should be justification for Robz being town? But Space uses it before voting for Robz. I guess I don’t find this post scummy, just confusing. OTOH, they did say they were really sleepy which can explain fuzzy logic.

I don’t particularly want to lynch Space. But I’ve never actually played a game with town!Space, only “third party that was almost it not quite town-aligned!Space.” So I don’t know if anything is out of character for them. But I just reread everything Space has said today and I have no reason to think they are scum. And Space is a useful player to have around. They have a wagon analysis method that I don’t understand but apparently is helpful and mathy.

I’d rather a lurker lynch at this point tbh- could get behind LL, jimmmm, or Robz, in that order. Town Robz is very good later on but scum Robz is very scary later on and I believe won the last time this set-up was run(?) Don’t quote me on that I could be remembering wrong.

I don’t know what I do if the choice is Space or No Lynch. I suppose we’ll find out if we get to that point. We have 2 hours.

PPE 1

[Awaclus]

Vote: Robz

[Uncleeurope]

TheseBeTheVotes - Eddie Edition


LaLight (3): Shraeye, Glooble, Robz888
Robz888 (7): 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds, UmbrageofSnow, SpaceAnemone, chickenwarlord, DatSwan, Awaclus
Jimmmmm (1): raerae
raerae (2): ashersky, mcmcsalot
2.71828..... (1): LaLight
shraeye (1): Jimmmmm
SpaceAnemone (3): faust, Uncleeurope, MiX



Robz hit L-3

[Glooble]

Ugh, fine.

vote: Robz

[Uncleeurope]

L-2

[Jimmmmm]

Vote: Robz

[WestCoastDidds]

Good morning! The question for the moment is why can't cats make coffee? Le sigh...

Robz at L-1?