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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3050 on: April 10, 2019, 04:00:03 pm »

Well, I personally think MiX deserves the MVP. Being the loser in a king-making scenario is rough, and he played well enough to be a winner as Joth said.

I would be sad to see the f.ds community legitimising the kind of behaviour that made multiple other players consider /outing by awarding the aggressor an MVP. Especially when the aggressor is still insisting that behaviour shouldn't be held accountable.

Well, I believe MVP nominations are part of the game, and thus I should be held accountable for this in this case. But if you want to personally judge me based on my performance this game, that I disagree with. Am I being selfish? Perhaps.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3051 on: April 10, 2019, 04:32:17 pm »

Thank you, Joth! Thank you, Glooble!

I will happily belly up to the bar with the DS9 denizens.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3052 on: April 10, 2019, 04:36:21 pm »

Well, I personally think MiX deserves the MVP. Being the loser in a king-making scenario is rough, and he played well enough to be a winner as Joth said.

I would be sad to see the f.ds community legitimising the kind of behaviour that made multiple other players consider /outing by awarding the aggressor an MVP. Especially when the aggressor is still insisting that behaviour shouldn't be held accountable.

This is a fair point.

This game has honestly gone on so long it's hard for me to consider people's play holistically. Like someone said Shraeye should be MVP and I'm like "what did Shraeye do? I've slept since then". So I guess this is my way of saying I'm considering nominations.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3053 on: April 10, 2019, 04:37:13 pm »

Also, I think my line on personal QTs is individuals can post them or not at their leisure.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3054 on: April 10, 2019, 04:38:06 pm »

faust managed to make himself an IC, which is a pretty impressive feat in this setup. And he went so many nights without being killed.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3055 on: April 10, 2019, 04:40:55 pm »

Ultimately, I think the idea that if itís in the game or it serves the purposes of the game, then it will just be forgiven is false. We all understand the game, but the people are real.

On the other hand, I believe that's why this is a game: everyone's playing to win according to what they drew, which means their behaviour shouldn't be held accountable unless for the purposes of a future game. These differences are something I should really change for this format.

I think we all agree there are lines you don't cross. We might disagree on where those lines are. I think, as a community, we should strive to put them where they don't make anyone uncomfortable or hurt anybody.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3056 on: April 10, 2019, 04:58:38 pm »

faust managed to make himself an IC, which is a pretty impressive feat in this setup. And he went so many nights without being killed.

faust's ICness was wasted by him having...well...really bad reads. Removing ash and Snow from the lynch pool in D4 was...bad. It really secured the Uncle lynch. Otherwise, I think he just had a cop magnet and the only role that cops itself, so, yeah, he managed to do the somewhat impossible.

This game has honestly gone on so long it's hard for me to consider people's play holistically. Like someone said Shraeye should be MVP and I'm like "what did Shraeye do? I've slept since then". So I guess this is my way of saying I'm considering nominations.

shraeye should be MVP so we can trashtalk the mod when he said it should be me or ash. Wait...  :P
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3057 on: April 10, 2019, 05:21:17 pm »

My QT: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/rFk3vK6R7ytLX
Maquis: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/srKdhmWwEPP

Did anyone notice I never once used the word Maquis (or MU) in my posts?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3058 on: April 10, 2019, 05:35:45 pm »

My QT: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/rFk3vK6R7ytLX
Maquis: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/srKdhmWwEPP

Did anyone notice I never once used the word Maquis (or MU) in my posts?

Just out of curiosity, did you think I believed your claim?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3059 on: April 10, 2019, 05:39:43 pm »

My QT: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/rFk3vK6R7ytLX
Maquis: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/srKdhmWwEPP

Did anyone notice I never once used the word Maquis (or MU) in my posts?

Just out of curiosity, did you think I believed your claim?

That reminds me: what did you think would happen during the night? Did you think I would shoot Space or ash?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3060 on: April 10, 2019, 05:55:44 pm »

My QT: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/rFk3vK6R7ytLX
Maquis: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/srKdhmWwEPP

Did anyone notice I never once used the word Maquis (or MU) in my posts?

Just out of curiosity, did you think I believed your claim?

That reminds me: what did you think would happen during the night? Did you think I would shoot Space or ash?

I ran through about every scenario but was hoping I seemed gullible enough to survive. 
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3061 on: April 10, 2019, 06:03:49 pm »

faust managed to make himself an IC, which is a pretty impressive feat in this setup. And he went so many nights without being killed.

faust's ICness was wasted by him having...well...really bad reads.

I disagree that a good IC must have good reads.  Like, of course it's better if the IC is also clairvoyant.  But it's town who screws themselves (with scum help) when everybody says "well, XXX is the IC, so we have to do exactly what they say"

IC is a voice you can trust.  And as a paranoid town member that is invaluable.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3062 on: April 10, 2019, 07:13:51 pm »

faust managed to make himself an IC, which is a pretty impressive feat in this setup. And he went so many nights without being killed.

If you want to look at townies who did an impressive job, EFHW subbed into the game (which is never easy), used her PR really well, and kept a calm and level head throughout.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3063 on: April 10, 2019, 07:37:34 pm »

Thanks Space :)
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3064 on: April 10, 2019, 07:38:39 pm »

I already asked this in the speccy, but is there any way we would have lynched MiX for being sk, assuming enough of us were convinced?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3065 on: April 10, 2019, 07:39:47 pm »

faust managed to make himself an IC, which is a pretty impressive feat in this setup. And he went so many nights without being killed.

faust's ICness was wasted by him having...well...really bad reads.

I disagree that a good IC must have good reads.  Like, of course it's better if the IC is also clairvoyant.  But it's town who screws themselves (with scum help) when everybody says "well, XXX is the IC, so we have to do exactly what they say"

IC is a voice you can trust.  And as a paranoid town member that is invaluable.
This.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3066 on: April 10, 2019, 09:13:39 pm »

I already asked this in the speccy, but is there any way we would have lynched MiX for being sk, assuming enough of us were convinced?

I thought he was SK for the last couple of days, but it was all vague sense stuff. Iím not sure I could have made an argument that would have swayed anyone but Raerae.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3067 on: April 10, 2019, 09:34:00 pm »

I already asked this in the speccy, but is there any way we would have lynched MiX for being sk, assuming enough of us were convinced?

I thought he was SK for the last couple of days, but it was all vague sense stuff. Iím not sure I could have made an argument that would have swayed anyone but Raerae.

Yeah, I flubbed that with the tie in to shraeye.  I think that was the hang up that most people had with my argument.  (Maybe?  I might just be awful at convincing people of things.)
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3068 on: April 10, 2019, 10:15:29 pm »

My QT: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/rFk3vK6R7ytLX
Maquis: https://quicktopic.com/52/H/srKdhmWwEPP

Did anyone notice I never once used the word Maquis (or MU) in my posts?

Just out of curiosity, did you think I believed your claim?

Not particularly. I think you felt I was never your favorite lynch and I just gave you some extra public reasons.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3069 on: April 10, 2019, 11:20:36 pm »

I already asked this in the speccy, but is there any way we would have lynched MiX for being sk, assuming enough of us were convinced?

I thought he was SK for the last couple of days, but it was all vague sense stuff. Iím not sure I could have made an argument that would have swayed anyone but Raerae.

Yeah, I flubbed that with the tie in to shraeye.  I think that was the hang up that most people had with my argument.  (Maybe?  I might just be awful at convincing people of things.)
But what if we had agreed? When I suggested that he was SK, it seemed like most people thought we had other priorities.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3070 on: April 10, 2019, 11:21:59 pm »

And maybe we did. A buff for sk built in to setup.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3071 on: April 12, 2019, 04:44:57 pm »

I hope the everything with Umbrage is okay. I have been worried about him.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3072 on: April 17, 2019, 04:38:29 pm »

I'm officially calling it-- ash MVP.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3073 on: April 17, 2019, 04:41:00 pm »

I'm officially calling it-- ash MVP.

Finally, now I can put this game behind me. Thank you.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (GAME OVER, Maquis win!)
« Reply #3074 on: April 23, 2019, 09:41:46 am »

Shamelessly posting here that Unfortunate Events signups are here: http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=19658.0

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