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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2925 on: April 07, 2019, 07:59:42 pm »

ADK, are you going to vote for Ash? For anyone?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2926 on: April 07, 2019, 08:02:12 pm »

He was at L-1 when it happened. I don’t put it past him to lie, but I’m not sure why the real SK hasn’t said so, unless that person is anti-town, too

The SK is pretty much anti-town by definition, so there's that. I don't think they benefit from counterclaiming Ash immediately. I mean, they could have claimed much earlier in the day and shrunk our lynchpool even further, but they chose not to do that...
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2927 on: April 07, 2019, 08:03:09 pm »

Space, is there some reason you won’t vote for ADK?

I’m not trying to pressure anyone, MiXstyle, with my questions. Just trying to see where the lines are and where there might be overlap.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2928 on: April 07, 2019, 08:03:47 pm »

He was at L-1 when it happened. I don’t put it past him to lie, but I’m not sure why the real SK hasn’t said so, unless that person is anti-town, too

The SK is pretty much anti-town by definition, so there's that. I don't think they benefit from counterclaiming Ash immediately. I mean, they could have claimed much earlier in the day and shrunk our lynchpool even further, but they chose not to do that...

But we NEED to lynch MQ or lose. Is he MQ?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2929 on: April 07, 2019, 08:04:33 pm »

I believe MiX when he said he was going to bed. So, his vote is staying.

Rae, would you lynch Ash?

I don't really want to.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2930 on: April 07, 2019, 08:09:39 pm »

Space, is there some reason you won’t vote for ADK?

Yes, right now I firmly believe that Ash is conf!Maquis, and I'm deeply suspicious of how many people are just not all over that. My plan was to wait till you and ADK actually weighed in before giving into MiX's vote, because I think Ash's scumslip was of the sort of magnitude that he should be an unquestionable lynch to the point where his scumbuddy jumps on the wagon for the townpoints.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2931 on: April 07, 2019, 08:10:45 pm »

He was at L-1 when it happened. I don’t put it past him to lie, but I’m not sure why the real SK hasn’t said so, unless that person is anti-town, too

The SK is pretty much anti-town by definition, so there's that. I don't think they benefit from counterclaiming Ash immediately. I mean, they could have claimed much earlier in the day and shrunk our lynchpool even further, but they chose not to do that...

But we NEED to lynch MQ or lose. Is he MQ?

Do you really think that a player who's fully bulletproof and can't be killed at night conveniently forgets that they can't be killed, and thinks they have a one-shot power? Because if Ash is SK, that's what he did.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2932 on: April 07, 2019, 08:13:37 pm »

So,

we could easily get or have
3 on MiX (Asher, Rae, WCD)
3 on ADK (MiX, Rae, WCD)
2 On Asher (ADK, Space)

For MiX to go off, we need ADK and/or Space
For ADK, we need Space and/or Ashersky
For Ash, we need Rae and WCD

Space, you are the lynchpin to two of those. Any thoughts?




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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2933 on: April 07, 2019, 08:15:48 pm »

I am willing to vote for Ash.

We’d still need one or two more
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2934 on: April 07, 2019, 08:18:59 pm »

I do not like ADK not voting. At this stage, even just checking in to see what’s what, not voting is scummy.

Let’s vote for ADK
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2935 on: April 07, 2019, 08:19:41 pm »

So,

we could easily get or have
3 on MiX (Asher, Rae, WCD)
3 on ADK (MiX, Rae, WCD)
2 On Asher (ADK, Space)

For MiX to go off, we need ADK and/or Space
For ADK, we need Space and/or Ashersky
For Ash, we need Rae and WCD

Space, you are the lynchpin to two of those. Any thoughts?

ADK is the backup, but I see that as probably a town loss because it's too easy. Aren't you, MiX and raerae already voting

I would push to lynch raerae before MiX at this point. MiX has done nothing but hunt scum, and while I don't condone his posting style, his deductions are making good logical sense, which I conclude makes him non-Maquis. He may very well be the real SK (since he keeps trying to pin that on me, and I'm not), but he's not Maquis.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2936 on: April 07, 2019, 08:22:51 pm »

@WCD, if you think it's ADK-Ash, do you agree that there's a benefit in lynching Ash first in case he's got a PR that could mess with town's ability to lynch tomorrow or something?
(Leaving aside the question for now that we've been left in the lurch with an unmovable vote on ADK)
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2937 on: April 07, 2019, 08:27:04 pm »

FYI, we have 34 minutes.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2938 on: April 07, 2019, 08:28:45 pm »

@WCD, if you think it's ADK-Ash, do you agree that there's a benefit in lynching Ash first in case he's got a PR that could mess with town's ability to lynch tomorrow or something?
(Leaving aside the question for now that we've been left in the lurch with an unmovable vote on ADK)

What would that be? The double vote? Loved? I’m not sure how probable that is, but I’m not the numbers person.

I can’t see how we make Ash happen. ADK isn’t voting, MiX is asleep, Rae doesn’t wanna, Ash isn’t voting for himself.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2939 on: April 07, 2019, 08:30:51 pm »

It says 3 of us are reading. Rae, Space, me. We have to make a choice we can make happen
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2940 on: April 07, 2019, 08:38:34 pm »

It says 3 of us are reading. Rae, Space, me. We have to make a choice we can make happen

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2941 on: April 07, 2019, 08:40:27 pm »

SA defending MiX so hard is super scummy. They are the only other person I’ll vote today. I’ll shoot the other tonight, unless there’s a better choice?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2942 on: April 07, 2019, 08:40:44 pm »

Yeah, it's unlikely to happen that we do lynch Ash, but I want to understand what kind of thinking leads to people being unwilling to even state that they think he's Maquis here, or that he should be lynched. Raerae is refusing explicitly, but the fact that WCD and ADK are just kind of umming about it, while ADK isn't even voting at all has me kind of baffled.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2943 on: April 07, 2019, 08:41:20 pm »

I don’t want to lose.

ADK not voting when he knows it’s deadline is stinking up the joint.

I haven’t had a chance to really process all of the Asher claim, BP, is it a  lie stuff.

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2944 on: April 07, 2019, 08:41:40 pm »

SA defending MiX so hard is super scummy. They are the only other person I’ll vote today. I’ll shoot the other tonight, unless there’s a better choice?

As you apparently keep forgetting, since you've never honestly been Maquis-hunting in this game, I'm the only one of us who's cop-guaranteed not to be Maquis.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2945 on: April 07, 2019, 08:43:05 pm »

Yeah, it's unlikely to happen that we do lynch Ash, but I want to understand what kind of thinking leads to people being unwilling to even state that they think he's Maquis here, or that he should be lynched. Raerae is refusing explicitly, but the fact that WCD and ADK are just kind of umming about it, while ADK isn't even voting at all has me kind of baffled.

I’m not trying to be uhmming. I’ve been legit scattered all day by travel.

ADK is a different story. I don’t want to be in his basket.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2946 on: April 07, 2019, 08:45:25 pm »

Let's do ADK, I have to go put my kid down.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2947 on: April 07, 2019, 08:46:06 pm »

I don’t want to lose.

ADK not voting when he knows it’s deadline is stinking up the joint.

I haven’t had a chance to really process all of the Asher claim, BP, is it a  lie stuff.

Even if you're Dax and town, it wasn't looking great even at the start of the day. MiX's logic helped us a bunch, though his manner definitely hurt us, as I think did the fact that he left his vote on ADK instead of Ash. I'm completely sold on it being a lie both because he messed up the SK claim and also because it's Ash, and scum!Ash would 100% try to come up with a flashy claim to weasel himself out of a lynch situation, so a non-Maquis claim is approximately twice as likely to come from Maquis!Ash as from SK!Ash, since he's twice as likely to be Maquis than to be SK. That's not including the really small chance that town!Ash might produce a ridiculous lie, but if so, I'd put more blame for our loss onto him, because he'd have known what kind of people he's playing with, and how badly wrong that could go.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2948 on: April 07, 2019, 08:46:32 pm »

Let's do ADK, I have to go put my kid down.

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2949 on: April 07, 2019, 08:49:26 pm »

I don’t want to lose.

ADK not voting when he knows it’s deadline is stinking up the joint.

I haven’t had a chance to really process all of the Asher claim, BP, is it a  lie stuff.

Even if you're Dax and town, it wasn't looking great even at the start of the day. MiX's logic helped us a bunch, though his manner definitely hurt us, as I think did the fact that he left his vote on ADK instead of Ash. I'm completely sold on it being a lie both because he messed up the SK claim and also because it's Ash, and scum!Ash would 100% try to come up with a flashy claim to weasel himself out of a lynch situation, so a non-Maquis claim is approximately twice as likely to come from Maquis!Ash as from SK!Ash, since he's twice as likely to be Maquis than to be SK. That's not including the really small chance that town!Ash might produce a ridiculous lie, but if so, I'd put more blame for our loss onto him, because he'd have known what kind of people he's playing with, and how badly wrong that could go.

I think this is a good argument and I am aware that you have more experience with him than anyone else alive. That is the main reason that I’d move my vote there if this was happening. None of the rest of us know his play style as well as you do. I trust you more than I trust him, even if that is to my detriment.
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