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Author Topic: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Full! PMs coming soon)  (Read 707 times)

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Keep in mind, Sk also has a dedicated miller which mitigates the effectiveness of the dedicated cop a bit. But actually thinking about it, maybe full bulletproof is the solution. Itís also somewhat flavorful, since changeligs are quite hard to kill.
It doesn't mitigate it quite as much when you consider that the SK cannot actually claim that role without being counterclaimed. I'd really want to give them something to avoid being exposed, because that is really really unfun. Maybe X-shot Commuter or something along those lines. Though in that case "No result" may still out them. Having an SK Cop just seems like a pretty bad idea, I'm not sure it can work.

Hmmm. The heart of the setup really is the idea of three cops that each investigate a different faction, but only two of those factions are in the game. I think if I remove the SK cop it kind of kills the whole thing.

I'm not sure I agree with you. I mean, yes, if I'm the SK and I get SK-copped it really sucks. But it's not like that's a random event I have no control over. The SK needs to play in such a way that the cop doesn't target them, or they need to figure out who the cop is and kill them before they catch them. It's hard, but it's not impossible. And the first night, if they're bulletproof, they have a 1/17 chance of being investigated-- pretty good odds.

The other thing I could do is add more roles to the pool and have some roles not in the game. That makes fakeclaiming a little more possible. I would probably auto-include the main cops, but I could definitely put Odo on the rotating in and out list.

Also, other folks feel free to weigh in. I'm very open to feedback before the game starts, that's the beauty of an open setup.
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What if you give the SK 1 or 2 shots of active investigation immunity? They have to choose which night to use it,but if they choose right they get cleared?

Also yeah you're gonna need some more fake claims.
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Part of the whole point of the setup is to make fakeclaims not a thing. Since anyone can have any role, you can always just claim. I like the X-shot immunity idea, though that kind of makes Bashir pretty weak, since he can't even for sure rule people out.
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Ooh there's actually another big problem with the Miller thing in an open setup. If someone gets investigated as SK and claims Odo, the next question is who have you investigated (and what did you find) and then they're basically sunk. So that's actually sort of a big problem.
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So...if I don't read the setup at all....would you say that's a disadvantage? advantage?  vantage?
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I'm actually gonna be kinda busy during the time this game should take place. If my schedule clears up I'll be in again. If i'm gonna play mafia, i'm gonna give it my all and be super active.
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I just played my first game of f.ds mafia. I cannot stop.

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I've never felt more alive.

Ironic.

After much consideration, Iíve made the following changes: the changeling (SK) will gain full bulletproof and full strongman, neither of which will show up on odoís Investigation.

Dr. Bashir becomes an even-night SK cop but gains 1-shot doc.

I believe these changes should help give the serial killer a fighting chance, though it is still, as always, a challenging role to draw.
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I just played my first game of f.ds mafia. I cannot stop.

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I've never felt more alive.

One..of..us..one..of..us..
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Should I play?  I survived for a fairly long time in the first iteration ó donít recall my role but I was town.
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Should I play?  I survived for a fairly long time in the first iteration ó donít recall my role but I was town.

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Should I play?  I survived for a fairly long time in the first iteration ó donít recall my role but I was town.

According to my notes, you were Worf! I'm sure you played with honor.
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ooh, dibs on Worf!
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It's about time to /in.
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Agreed. /in
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We just need 4 more! (and for faust's game to end but I don't think we're too far off). Maybe we could get a Galzria? Or a raerae? Or someone's roommate/spouse/drinking buddy?
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I have typed a reply here somewhere around six times, I have no idea how feasible it is to be in two games at once for me...

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I have typed a reply here somewhere around six times, I have no idea how feasible it is to be in two games at once for me...

F/ine.

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So it seems like everyone does individual QTs these days. Has private messaging for roles just fallen out of favor?
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So it seems like everyone does individual QTs these days. Has private messaging for roles just fallen out of favor?

Yeah, it has. I think it is a lot easier to manage as a mod than getting a million PMs. And some people like to write their thoughts down somewhere other than in the thread (so scummy, I know).
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