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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1975 on: March 23, 2019, 12:48:09 pm »

@Space, Didds, and EFHW: Me vs MiX, is it town v town, scum v scum, or town v scum?
I'm curious, why us and how would this help?

You think it's going to hurt to give your opinions on this matter?
I don't have a strong feeling at all to help answer that question. I'm noticing you asked the other three female players.

That didn't have anything to do with who I asked, for whatever that's worth.

Vote: UoS

Wait, is it because UoS is the person I haven't expressed a read on/one of the three I mentioned above?  And, if so, do you think he's my partner?  And, if so, doesn't that mean you don't actually think we (you and I) are town v town?

@MiX, care to comment?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1976 on: March 23, 2019, 01:10:43 pm »

Vote Count 4.2


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"Nothing yet," says  O'Brien, "Just making sure everything's online."


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MiX (1): raerae
Not voting (8): SpaceAnemone, MiX, faust, EFHW, UncleEurope, ashersky, WestCoastDidds, UmbrageOfSnow

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch most players. Day 4 begins now and will end at 12 pm forum time/US ET (16:00 GMT) on Friday,  March 29th.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1977 on: March 23, 2019, 02:43:05 pm »

Okay, a few questions for the group:

How does town proceed in a 3v2v4 scenario?

How does town proceed in a 2v1v6 scenario? (Obviously a much happier situation)

This is literally my first game with multiple baddie teams (yup, using the word team because saying scum sides doesn't feel right to me). And I don't know, (or care to deduce for myself, honestly) what the next steps should be to ensure town's survival.

What do we do now that the claiming thing didn't happen?
This post reads scummy to me. Multiball weakens the scumminess, but why is Eddie suddenly newb!helpless?

Apathy.

And I was this same was in my town games and was definitely not this in my scum one.

But I know that...

Dun DUN DUUUUNNNNN
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1978 on: March 23, 2019, 02:48:42 pm »

Vote: UoS

Wait, is it because UoS is the person I haven't expressed a read on/one of the three I mentioned above?  And, if so, do you think he's my partner?  And, if so, doesn't that mean you don't actually think we (you and I) are town v town?

@MiX, care to comment?

It is indeed because UoS was the only person you hadn't talked about this day. No, of course I don't believe he's your partner, as I believe you are town, as I've previously said. To be honest, it's weird that you think that I would be scumreading you after I said I'm townreading you...

Are we doing the Garak claim? Are we not doing the Garak claim? I am honestly confused at this point. UoS' first on EFHW's list, right? Should we wait for him?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1979 on: March 23, 2019, 02:51:02 pm »

Vote: MiX

Whew, almost didn't feel like myself not having voted for anyone yet. Crisis averted.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1980 on: March 23, 2019, 02:55:58 pm »

Vote: UoS

Wait, is it because UoS is the person I haven't expressed a read on/one of the three I mentioned above?  And, if so, do you think he's my partner?  And, if so, doesn't that mean you don't actually think we (you and I) are town v town?

@MiX, care to comment?

It is indeed because UoS was the only person you hadn't talked about this day. No, of course I don't believe he's your partner, as I believe you are town, as I've previously said. To be honest, it's weird that you think that I would be scumreading you after I said I'm townreading you...

Are we doing the Garak claim? Are we not doing the Garak claim? I am honestly confused at this point. UoS' first on EFHW's list, right? Should we wait for him?

But how does me not discussing him mean he's scum? The only way that works is if you think I'm scum.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1981 on: March 23, 2019, 03:19:37 pm »

Vote: UoS

Wait, is it because UoS is the person I haven't expressed a read on/one of the three I mentioned above?  And, if so, do you think he's my partner?  And, if so, doesn't that mean you don't actually think we (you and I) are town v town?

@MiX, care to comment?

It is indeed because UoS was the only person you hadn't talked about this day. No, of course I don't believe he's your partner, as I believe you are town, as I've previously said. To be honest, it's weird that you think that I would be scumreading you after I said I'm townreading you...

Are we doing the Garak claim? Are we not doing the Garak claim? I am honestly confused at this point. UoS' first on EFHW's list, right? Should we wait for him?

But how does me not discussing him mean he's scum? The only way that works is if you think I'm scum.

PR things, not sure I should say it...it's wrong, and you told me it was wrong, but at the time I believed it. Now that I think about it, it was a bit foolish, but hey it got this interaction so it wasn't exactly the worst.

Vote: MiX

Whew, almost didn't feel like myself not having voted for anyone yet. Crisis averted.

Pfft.

Vote: EFHW, I think we should all adress the elephant in the room that says that the E wagon in D1 had at least 1 scum and the only player who hasn't flipped is EFHW. Sadly I didn't actually get to do an EFHW reread...or any rereads. I hope I'll be more useful this weekend, I got lazy today but maybe I won't tomorrow.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1982 on: March 23, 2019, 03:28:21 pm »

And WCD, right?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1983 on: March 23, 2019, 03:28:50 pm »

And WCD, right?

AKA Wasn't WCD on that e Wagon in question?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1984 on: March 23, 2019, 03:31:24 pm »

And WCD, right?

AKA Wasn't WCD on that e Wagon in question?


Indeed, which is why I didn't vote instantly. But Didds jumped too early for it to matter, since we know there was no partner in it, it doesn't make a lot of sense...I also have a hunch for Didds' partner, if she is indeed scum, unlike EFHW, which I know less. Regardless this is probably the most important thing to talk about untill I (we) do some NK analysis.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1985 on: March 23, 2019, 03:44:48 pm »

You just said that the only person on the wagon who hasnít flipped is EFHW, but WCD was on it too.

Are you WCDís partner? Is that what your hunch is?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1986 on: March 23, 2019, 04:03:36 pm »

You just said that the only person on the wagon who hasnít flipped is EFHW, but WCD was on it too.

Are you WCDís partner? Is that what your hunch is?

What did I just say?? Did you happen to read my post? I know Didds was there, I just don't think she was there long enough to matter for this. My hunch is actually that you're coaching her. It's incredibly faint and I didn't get around to reread your interactions, but it's what my gut tells me...then again, my gut got destroyed with E, so maybe I'm wrong. In fact I think I'm wrong because on the other hand I think Didds is town. But anyway there's your answer.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1987 on: March 23, 2019, 04:05:49 pm »

COMMUTER SHOULD NOT CLAIM WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE USED THEIR SHOT YET! if we claim.

Jeez, chicken's dead, you don't need to yell at town like that. Of course everyone should assume commuter never commuted since we've always had 2 kills and all vigs are dead.


Can't forget about this commuter fishing trip he took.

Can we put off claiming and just lynch MiX today?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1988 on: March 23, 2019, 04:10:58 pm »

COMMUTER SHOULD NOT CLAIM WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE USED THEIR SHOT YET! if we claim.

Jeez, chicken's dead, you don't need to yell at town like that. Of course everyone should assume commuter never commuted since we've always had 2 kills and all vigs are dead.


Can't forget about this commuter fishing trip he took.

Can we put off claiming and just lynch MiX today?

What? I'm confused. What does this have to do with anything?

I should stop replying to everything...
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1989 on: March 23, 2019, 04:36:54 pm »

Vote: EFHW, I think we should all adress the elephant in the room that says that the E wagon in D1 had at least 1 scum and the only player who hasn't flipped is EFHW. Sadly I didn't actually get to do an EFHW reread...or any rereads. I hope I'll be more useful this weekend, I got lazy today but maybe I won't tomorrow.

How is that an elephant? It's been talked to death. I find it a very weak argument or I'd be voting Didds right now.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1990 on: March 23, 2019, 04:45:20 pm »

Why is EFHW in charge of anything?

Why would we lynch Garak? If I am Garak, I'd have held on to my shot and used it as Bus Driver, early lightning rod is anti-town, it ruins the cop results at the benefit of soaking one kill.

There are 2 players scum don't want to shoot, and if doublevoter isn't scum they're a high priority target, along with the relevant cop.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1991 on: March 23, 2019, 04:48:49 pm »

No matter who is in charge I am going to be upset about it in all honestly.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1992 on: March 23, 2019, 04:51:50 pm »

Vote: EFHW, I think we should all adress the elephant in the room that says that the E wagon in D1 had at least 1 scum and the only player who hasn't flipped is EFHW. Sadly I didn't actually get to do an EFHW reread...or any rereads. I hope I'll be more useful this weekend, I got lazy today but maybe I won't tomorrow.

How is that an elephant? It's been talked to death. I find it a very weak argument or I'd be voting Didds right now.

It's much more relevant now that E flipped town, wouldn't you agree? And of course you don't believe it, from your perspective it would only implicate Didds and I agree that it's a weak implication. I would love to see other's opinions on it.

Why is EFHW in charge of anything?

Why would we lynch Garak? If I am Garak, I'd have held on to my shot and used it as Bus Driver, early lightning rod is anti-town, it ruins the cop results at the benefit of soaking one kill.

There are 2 players scum don't want to shoot, and if doublevoter isn't scum they're a high priority target, along with the relevant cop.

EFHW's in charge because raerae trusts EFHW and raerae is town. Weak, I know, but...

What's your opinion on Garak claiming?

No matter who is in charge I am going to be upset about it in all honestly.

Upset about what? The claims? Do you disagree with Garak claiming?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1993 on: March 23, 2019, 04:52:12 pm »

This probability talk is stupid, the odds of faust being scum neighbor are exactly the odds of faust being scum. Neighborhood is irrelevant.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1994 on: March 23, 2019, 04:53:28 pm »

Why is EFHW in charge of anything?

Why would we lynch Garak? If I am Garak, I'd have held on to my shot and used it as Bus Driver, early lightning rod is anti-town, it ruins the cop results at the benefit of soaking one kill.

There are 2 players scum don't want to shoot, and if doublevoter isn't scum they're a high priority target, along with the relevant cop.

EFHW is as good as anybody when nobody is universally considered conf!town, don't you think?  And she invited anybody to discuss the proposed claim order.

Say we don't claim, how do you suggest moving forward today?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1995 on: March 23, 2019, 05:00:28 pm »

By lynching who we think is most likely to be scum? I'm seeing downsides to claiming and not a lot of upside. Why do you think we need to claim to move forward?

And I'm torn between voting EFHW and MiX right now, so yeah not really liking them being in charge. I'd be happier with faust, at least he's not SK because of the neighborhood info thing.

So no, she's not as good as anybody. It's weirder how everyone, particularly MiX, is suddenly so in love with deferring judgement to people.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1996 on: March 23, 2019, 05:01:48 pm »

This probability talk is stupid, the odds of faust being scum neighbor are exactly the odds of faust being scum. Neighborhood is irrelevant.

Wrong: faust can't be SK, so he's less likely to be scum. It's very minor, but true.

Why is EFHW in charge of anything?

Why would we lynch Garak? If I am Garak, I'd have held on to my shot and used it as Bus Driver, early lightning rod is anti-town, it ruins the cop results at the benefit of soaking one kill.

There are 2 players scum don't want to shoot, and if doublevoter isn't scum they're a high priority target, along with the relevant cop.

EFHW is as good as anybody when nobody is universally considered conf!town, don't you think?  And she invited anybody to discuss the proposed claim order.

Say we don't claim, how do you suggest moving forward today?

No, EFHW is scum. Unless you believe scum wouldn't hop on the D1 E wagon? But claim order doesn't matter because I think we only need Garak to claim.

By lynching who we think is most likely to be scum? I'm seeing downsides to claiming and not a lot of upside. Why do you think we need to claim to move forward?

And I'm torn between voting EFHW and MiX right now, so yeah not really liking them being in charge. I'd be happier with faust, at least he's not SK because of the neighborhood info thing.

So no, she's not as good as anybody. It's weirder how everyone, particularly MiX, is suddenly so in love with deferring judgement to people.

Do you believe one of (EFHW, MiX) is scum beyond a shadow of doubt?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1997 on: March 23, 2019, 05:02:34 pm »

Also I've always found it kind of gross to set a claim order with yourself last when you're not a consensus townread. If we're going to claim, why not popcorn?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1998 on: March 23, 2019, 05:05:00 pm »

This probability talk is stupid, the odds of faust being scum neighbor are exactly the odds of faust being scum. Neighborhood is irrelevant.

Wrong: faust can't be SK, so he's less likely to be scum. It's very minor, but true.
Wrong. This has nothing to do with the prior likelihood of the neighborhood containing scum, which is what I was complaining about. There was a lot of math and fury signifying nothing.

By lynching who we think is most likely to be scum? I'm seeing downsides to claiming and not a lot of upside. Why do you think we need to claim to move forward?

And I'm torn between voting EFHW and MiX right now, so yeah not really liking them being in charge. I'd be happier with faust, at least he's not SK because of the neighborhood info thing.

So no, she's not as good as anybody. It's weirder how everyone, particularly MiX, is suddenly so in love with deferring judgement to people.

Do you believe one of (EFHW, MiX) is scum beyond a shadow of doubt?
Why do you think I would believe this?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 4)
« Reply #1999 on: March 23, 2019, 05:12:51 pm »

Anyway, I have to run but if a majority really wants to claim, I'll be willing to claim first when I get back in a few hours. But then we popcorn. I won't hold the town hostage to my saying this is a bad idea, but really the arguments seem to be mostly a lot of yelling and maybe some misunderstanding of how bus drivers work.

Also, seriously raerae, why do we need to claim to move the day forward? Like we've had other days in the game where we lynched people without massclaiming haven't we?
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