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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1550 on: February 11, 2019, 03:21:25 pm »

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1551 on: February 11, 2019, 03:22:01 pm »

Let's see....if DatSwan is town...then I think Ari's claim is much less believable (as a town role, at least)

Still believe EFHW and raerae are town.  Those are my two towniest reads.  Very town.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1552 on: February 11, 2019, 03:22:26 pm »

Not that I even agree that I'm weird, mind you. I think hammering a cop is far weirder than anything I've done.

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1553 on: February 11, 2019, 03:23:18 pm »

Small aside: my crazy conspiracy theory is that faust is SK.    Now, I don't even KNOW if there is an SK, but if there is, then that's who I suspect.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1554 on: February 11, 2019, 03:24:29 pm »

Not that I even agree that I'm weird, mind you. I think hammering a cop is far weirder than anything I've done.
hammering a shady cop claim after seeing as many PRs as we have is not as scummy as oopsie-hammering after somebody had stated intent to hammer.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1555 on: February 11, 2019, 03:26:52 pm »

Let's see....if DatSwan is town...then I think Ari's claim is much less believable (as a town role, at least)

Still believe EFHW and raerae are town.  Those are my two towniest reads.  Very town.

Back to DatSwan.  If he's town, then I'm much more suspicious of mail-mi.  slightly more suspicious of ari.  Much much much less suspicious of silverspawn.

So I'd look into mail-mi/Joseph....annnnnd Uncle? DebatePro? ari possibly.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1556 on: February 11, 2019, 03:28:04 pm »

Let's see....if DatSwan is town...then I think Ari's claim is much less believable (as a town role, at least)

Still believe EFHW and raerae are town.  Those are my two towniest reads.  Very town.

Back to DatSwan.  If he's town, then I'm much more suspicious of mail-mi.  slightly more suspicious of ari.  Much much much less suspicious of silverspawn.

So I'd look into mail-mi/Joseph....annnnnd Uncle? DebatePro? ari possibly.
How are you suspicious of me? I’m uncced neap enabler.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1557 on: February 11, 2019, 03:29:23 pm »

Let's see....if DatSwan is town...then I think Ari's claim is much less believable (as a town role, at least)

Still believe EFHW and raerae are town.  Those are my two towniest reads.  Very town.

Back to DatSwan.  If he's town, then I'm much more suspicious of mail-mi.  slightly more suspicious of ari.  Much much much less suspicious of silverspawn.

So I'd look into mail-mi/Joseph....annnnnd Uncle? DebatePro? ari possibly.
How are you suspicious of me? I’m uncced neap enabler.

This is the "if DatSwan is town" theory.  There are only so many PRs running around.  And it's not out of line that Neapolotan Enabler is a scum role.  So you lying, or omitting the full story are both possible.  Not all un-counter-claimed things are auto-town.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1558 on: February 11, 2019, 03:30:58 pm »

Let's see....if DatSwan is town...then I think Ari's claim is much less believable (as a town role, at least)

Still believe EFHW and raerae are town.  Those are my two towniest reads.  Very town.

Back to DatSwan.  If he's town, then I'm much more suspicious of mail-mi.  slightly more suspicious of ari.  Much much much less suspicious of silverspawn.

So I'd look into mail-mi/Joseph....annnnnd Uncle? DebatePro? ari possibly.
How are you suspicious of me? I’m uncced neap enabler.

This is the "if DatSwan is town" theory.  There are only so many PRs running around.  And it's not out of line that Neapolotan Enabler is a scum role.  So you lying, or omitting the full story are both possible.  Not all un-counter-claimed things are auto-town.
Oh. They are in 10 minute mafia
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1559 on: February 11, 2019, 03:32:52 pm »

How are you suspicious of me? I’m uncced neap enabler.

"I've planned this 'accidental' fake claim so well! Why isn' it working?"

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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1560 on: February 11, 2019, 03:33:22 pm »

Let's see....if DatSwan is town...then I think Ari's claim is much less believable (as a town role, at least)

Still believe EFHW and raerae are town.  Those are my two towniest reads.  Very town.

Back to DatSwan.  If he's town, then I'm much more suspicious of mail-mi.  slightly more suspicious of ari.  Much much much less suspicious of silverspawn.

So I'd look into mail-mi/Joseph....annnnnd Uncle? DebatePro? ari possibly.
How are you suspicious of me? I’m uncced neap enabler.
In fact, this question makes you look MORE suspicious.  Enough that I'm willing to say that Ari is suspect #1 in this scenario.  Replace mail-mi entirely.  make it

ari
joseph
Uncle/debatePro

mail-mi becomes way more town the more sure I am that Ari is scum.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1561 on: February 11, 2019, 03:34:26 pm »

UPDATE:

I HIGHLY SUSPECT ARI IS TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS ROLE BUT IS SCUM.  Soooo, yup; good thought exercise.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1562 on: February 11, 2019, 03:34:55 pm »

Let's see....if DatSwan is town...then I think Ari's claim is much less believable (as a town role, at least)

Still believe EFHW and raerae are town.  Those are my two towniest reads.  Very town.

Back to DatSwan.  If he's town, then I'm much more suspicious of mail-mi.  slightly more suspicious of ari.  Much much much less suspicious of silverspawn.

So I'd look into mail-mi/Joseph....annnnnd Uncle? DebatePro? ari possibly.
How are you suspicious of me? I’m uncced neap enabler.
In fact, this question makes you look MORE suspicious.  Enough that I'm willing to say that Ari is suspect #1 in this scenario.  Replace mail-mi entirely.  make it

ari
joseph
Uncle/debatePro

mail-mi becomes way more town the more sure I am that Ari is scum.
What?? If I were scum, I would have KNOWN uncced enabler could be scum!
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1563 on: February 11, 2019, 03:35:24 pm »

But you didn't know I'd know.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1564 on: February 11, 2019, 03:37:44 pm »

Weird claim, ari.  especially because the day is done and you did not get lynched.

If all claims so far are true, then we have outed every town PR.  which means that the Neapolitan enabler has nobody to enable.  Possible.  But weird.

I'm leaning more that there are untrue claims.  I think fausts hammer was excellent; still expect DatSwan to flip scum.
I’m not still at l1? Did I miss something? I am on mobile...
Yes Datswan was already hammered....
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Town: 22 games, 8 wins
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1565 on: February 11, 2019, 03:38:26 pm »

UPDATE:

I HIGHLY SUSPECT ARI IS TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS ROLE BUT IS SCUM.  Soooo, yup; good thought exercise.
I think it's a distinct possibility. That role doesn't sound very pro-town
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1566 on: February 11, 2019, 03:41:44 pm »

Ari, assume you're going to be the NK and play along for a minute. What does town do tomorrow?
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1567 on: February 11, 2019, 03:44:11 pm »

THREAD LOCKED
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1568 on: February 11, 2019, 03:55:37 pm »

Vote Count 2.final
“Today, however, we are having a hard time living because we are so bent on outwitting death.” ―  Simone de Beauvoir

DatSwan (6): EFHW, arishipshape, Joseph2302, shraeye, raerae, faust
arishipshape (4): silverspawn, Uncleeurope, DatSwan, mail-mi
Joseph2302 (1): Debatepro

With 11 alive, it took 6 to lynch.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #1569 on: February 11, 2019, 04:17:50 pm »

"Why am I even being voted? Every argument I've heard is just ambiguous nonsense!" Simone de Beauvoir slammed her wine glass down on the table.

"Oh I don't know, look at how nice this apartment is, full of fine wines and fancy cheese and books in French. Seems pretty bourgeoisie to me. Mark cracked his knuckles threateningly.

"I'm French you mérinos mal peigné. And the game isn't called counter-revolutionaries."

"I have a very good reason to vote for you, Simone," said Kant. "You said you were having fun earlier, but right now it seems like you've been getting frustrated. If we universalize that and everyone were to claim they were having fun and then change their minds we'd never be able to tell if anyone were having fun playing games. So we're obligated to lynch you since this can only be manipulation."

"Okay, first that's a terrible argument, and second, you can't reduce an ethical system to―"

"That's kind of a bad faith argument, don't you think, Simone? Everyone can decide on their own reasons for lynching you."

"And what are your reasons, Jean-Paul?"

"And if you say 'radical freedom' you are sleeping on the couch for a week."

Sartre cut off whatever answer he was about to give and shrugged.

"Isn't there anything I can do to change your minds?"

Epictetus stroked his beard thoughtfully. 
"You cannot control the votes of others, only your own scummy reaction to the wagon."

"You could always self-hammer," Sartre chimed in.

"FINE! I'm making it my personal project to eat every last bit of camembert in the house, so there."

DatSwan in particular was lynched. Not just swans in general, but datswan. They were Simone de Beauvoir, a Vanilla Townie.

Night 2 begins now and ends February 13, 2019, 04:00:00 pm.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #1570 on: February 11, 2019, 04:19:44 pm »

Please remember the motto scribo ergo sum. Say something in your private threads so I know you exist.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1571 on: February 13, 2019, 04:14:48 pm »

De Beauvoir nibbled her cambert and watched Hobbes resolve the night actions of each player in turn. When he tapped Kant on the shoulder, he looked around the circle of philosophers, examining each of them. Eventually his gaze settled on Plato's plastic "Philosopher King" crown, its glittery plastic dodecahedral and icosahedral faux-gemstones must have captured Kant's perception and interacted with some a priori judgment in his mind. Even the cube—the lamest of the solids—shone attractively in the dim lamplight. Kant raised his finger to point, then muttered to himself

"No, if everyone chose their Neapolitan targets based on headgear shininess..."

One of the scumteam let out an amused laugh. "Is that you, Kant? Are you a Neapolitan?"

A look of extreme guilt came over Kant's face. Machiavelli was making shushing motions from the sidelines, but Kant averted his gaze.

"Yes on both counts," he said.

Machiavelli slammed his head against the wall in frustration.

A minute later, Hobbes told everyone to open their eyes.


"Shockingly, you've died, Kant."

mail-mi has died.  They were Immanuel Kant, a Town Neapolitan.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1572 on: February 13, 2019, 04:15:41 pm »

Vote Count 3.0
I am an investigator by inclination. I feel a great thirst for knowledge and an impatient eagerness to advance, also satisfaction at each progressive step. There was a time when I thought that all this could constitute the honor of humanity, and I despised the mob, which knows nothing about it." — Immanuel Kant

Not Voting (9): Debatepro, faust, silverspawn, Uncleeurope, Joseph2302, arishipshape, shraeye, EFHW, raerae

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Day 3 begins now and ends February 21, 2019, 04:00:00 pm.

Thread Unlocked.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1573 on: February 13, 2019, 04:42:47 pm »

I'm... not dead? Wow. I guess killing the neap is just as good, if not better than killing me. But that's still a risk. Man, we just can't seem to lynch right like, ever. I'm gonna go re-read mail-mi.
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Re: M121: Philosophers Mafia Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #1574 on: February 13, 2019, 04:57:20 pm »

I'm... not dead? Wow. I guess killing the neap is just as good, if not better than killing me. But that's still a risk. Man, we just can't seem to lynch right like, ever. I'm gonna go re-read mail-mi.

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