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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1725 on: February 10, 2019, 05:39:25 pm »

WCD’s power works as described. This is not in dispute.

Does it?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1726 on: February 10, 2019, 05:42:36 pm »

WCD has also been asking me to help direct her night actions in our QT. That’s pretty towny. Especially since it’s verifiable tomorrow.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1727 on: February 10, 2019, 05:44:08 pm »

People who mocked my UoS case at the start of the day who are now voting for UoS— what changed?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1728 on: February 10, 2019, 05:55:24 pm »

WCD has also been asking me to help direct her night actions in our QT. That’s pretty towny. Especially since it’s verifiable tomorrow.

And how do I know that you're town?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1729 on: February 10, 2019, 05:56:37 pm »

WCD has also been asking me to help direct her night actions in our QT. That’s pretty towny. Especially since it’s verifiable tomorrow.

And how do I know that you're town?

I think I just exude an undeniable aura of towniness.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1730 on: February 10, 2019, 05:57:21 pm »

WCD has also been asking me to help direct her night actions in our QT. That’s pretty towny. Especially since it’s verifiable tomorrow.

And how do I know that you're town?

I think I just exude an undeniable aura of towniness.

You don't though.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1731 on: February 10, 2019, 05:59:22 pm »

Well ask Space then. I bet the same thing happened in their QT.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1732 on: February 10, 2019, 06:04:29 pm »

SA's hesitancy to vote is scummy in my opinion.

Think what you want about me not wanting to put a vote down while I'm still making up my mind.

I ended up with an unexpected scumread on my top townread, and I started the day feeling pretty much on the vote-for-joth side of the Joth-v-UoS debate, so the options for good places to put my vote are limited.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1733 on: February 10, 2019, 06:08:27 pm »

WCD has also been asking me to help direct her night actions in our QT. That’s pretty towny. Especially since it’s verifiable tomorrow.

You weren't one of the people I recommended talking to, so I guess there's a limit to what advice she'll take, or Swan's advice trumped mine!
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1734 on: February 10, 2019, 06:13:40 pm »

Joth, I think I’d lynch you before 2.7 today.

WCD: where did you get motion detector from?  That’s the huge inconsistency problem I have.

Inconsistency, in this case, is actually ignorance.

I googled mafia and limited watcher. It gave me this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Motion_Detector

Huh.. that's not the answer I thought you would give.

I thought that since mcmc had just flipped Motion Detector, and you had clearly been aware of the details of his flip when we were talking, that you's say that that was where you'd got the idea that motion detector was what your power did.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1735 on: February 10, 2019, 06:16:34 pm »

So far, ppl are saying WCD is scummy because of these inconsistencies, but no one can say what pro-scum agenda has been accomplished by those inconsistencies. This isn’t someone changing their story in a convenient way, it’s just someone changing their story. That’s why I believe WCD.

Screwing up a fakeclaim doesn't accomplish any pro-scum agenda. It still means you're scum.

WCD’s power works as described. This is not in dispute.

What if she roleblocked both of us at the same time as opening the QT, instead of just tracking us? We only have her word for it that I was JKd by swan, and only after Swan's flip.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1736 on: February 10, 2019, 06:20:27 pm »

It almost sounds like e is trying to push a non-ashersky mislynch through.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1737 on: February 10, 2019, 06:23:36 pm »

So far, ppl are saying WCD is scummy because of these inconsistencies, but no one can say what pro-scum agenda has been accomplished by those inconsistencies. This isn’t someone changing their story in a convenient way, it’s just someone changing their story. That’s why I believe WCD.

Screwing up a fakeclaim doesn't accomplish any pro-scum agenda. It still means you're scum.

WCD’s power works as described. This is not in dispute.

What if she roleblocked both of us at the same time as opening the QT, instead of just tracking us? We only have her word for it that I was JKd by swan, and only after Swan's flip.

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This is good. This is a good point.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1738 on: February 10, 2019, 06:25:52 pm »

If you were roleblocked and not JK’d though, we lose our reason for no NK.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1739 on: February 10, 2019, 07:26:40 pm »

If you were roleblocked and not JK’d though, we lose our reason for no NK.

Unless SA did the NK.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1740 on: February 10, 2019, 07:27:13 pm »

Joth, I think I’d lynch you before 2.7 today.

WCD: where did you get motion detector from?  That’s the huge inconsistency problem I have.

Inconsistency, in this case, is actually ignorance.

I googled mafia and limited watcher. It gave me this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Motion_Detector

Huh.. that's not the answer I thought you would give.

I thought that since mcmc had just flipped Motion Detector, and you had clearly been aware of the details of his flip when we were talking, that you's say that that was where you'd got the idea that motion detector was what your power did.

Does that also mean WCD thought there were two motion detectors in the game?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1741 on: February 10, 2019, 07:35:43 pm »

If you were roleblocked and not JK’d though, we lose our reason for no NK.

Unless SA did the NK.

We also have a claimed doctor, unless you know him to be lying?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1742 on: February 10, 2019, 07:37:22 pm »

People who mocked my UoS case at the start of the day who are now voting for UoS— what changed?

I was thinking this too. I still think your case is dumb, but e seemed to be mostly on me to get me to claim but then had all that stuff about me taking the time-where-I'm-never-online to make a fake claim before I said anything, and then as soon as I do I'm the top scum read.

I feel like the wagons on me are going to be really interesting to look at once I'm dead.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1743 on: February 10, 2019, 07:38:00 pm »

Also I'm not getting to most of this until tomorrow, sorry. Weekend sucked.

(Guess there really was no reason to expect me to change  ::) )
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1744 on: February 10, 2019, 07:38:09 pm »

If you were roleblocked and not JK’d though, we lose our reason for no NK.

Unless SA did the NK.

We also have a claimed doctor, unless you know him to be lying?

Or mail-mi was the target. There are a lot of possibilities.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1745 on: February 10, 2019, 07:40:09 pm »

If you were roleblocked and not JK’d though, we lose our reason for no NK.

Unless SA did the NK.

We also have a claimed doctor, unless you know him to be lying?

It's like Joth knows for sure the NK was on Space

Scumslip? (I can't not say it)
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1746 on: February 10, 2019, 07:40:51 pm »

If you were roleblocked and not JK’d though, we lose our reason for no NK.

Unless SA did the NK.

We also have a claimed doctor, unless you know him to be lying?

Or mail-mi was the target. There are a lot of possibilities.

Says the player who’s post is quoted to be disproved.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1747 on: February 10, 2019, 07:41:52 pm »

I just thought that was our going explanation right now. I was thinking out loud through the implications of Space's WCD theory, nothing more.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1748 on: February 10, 2019, 07:43:05 pm »

Joth, I think I’d lynch you before 2.7 today.

WCD: where did you get motion detector from?  That’s the huge inconsistency problem I have.

Inconsistency, in this case, is actually ignorance.

I googled mafia and limited watcher. It gave me this: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Motion_Detector

Huh.. that's not the answer I thought you would give.

I thought that since mcmc had just flipped Motion Detector, and you had clearly been aware of the details of his flip when we were talking, that you's say that that was where you'd got the idea that motion detector was what your power did.

Does that also mean WCD thought there were two motion detectors in the game?

Yes, though different variants of motion detectors. She should perhaps explain.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1749 on: February 10, 2019, 08:51:13 pm »

Vote: e
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