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RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Game over)
« on: December 31, 2018, 05:07:05 am »

Welcome to RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia!

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This is a closed game for 14 players. Some more information will be provided in the next post.


Players:
1. SpaceAnemone
2. jotheonah
3. LaLight
4. DatSwan
5. mail-mi
6. Awaclus
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8. WestCoastDidds
9. Robz888 UmbrageOfSnow
10. hypercube
11. mcmcsalot
12. ashersky
13. Galzria Haddock
14. Glooble

Spectators tagged:

Day starts: Day 1 | Day 2 | Day 3 | Day 4

General rules

Changes to the usual rule sets are marked in olive.

The Golden Rule:


Please remember that this is a game and your main objective is to have fun!  Be considerate of each other, donít get personal, and enjoy the game. Please read The Civility Pledge before signing up for any mafia game on this site.  If you have not /pledged there, you cannot play. Excessive personal attacks or uncivil behavior may be dealt with by modifiers or modkills.

1. General Gameplay and Etiquette:

1. You may not quote information (either real or fabricated) from any game-related source other than the thread you are posting in. This means no quotes from PMs and no quotes from QTs in the main thread or in another QT. Paraphrasing is acceptable. If you are unsure whether a post is legal, please ask the moderator before posting.
2. There is to be NO personal communication outside of the forum postings and the QTs specifically designed for this purpose.
3. As a general rule you should aim for one post every 12 hours, minimum, to keep the game moving.

2. Voting, Deadlines, and Player Death:

1. Day phases will last 7 days, Night lasts at least 48 hours. Night action deadline is 36 hours after night start.
2. A simple majority (rounded up) of all living members must agree on one person for a lynch to occur prior to deadline.
3. Once you have reached a simple majority no further unvoting will change someoneís fate. Further votes will also be ignored.
4. Once a player is lynched, the game enters twilight until the mod locks the thread; all players including the one who was lynched may continue to post during twilight.
5. If the deadline is hit without a player reaching the majority of votes, the player that would take the least number of additional votes to lynch dies. If there is a tie, a town player dies before a non-town player. Otherwise, who dies is determined randomly.
6. Please submit votes as: Vote: PlayerName.  Votes in another format may or may not be counted. This is up to the mod's discretion. Obvious abbreviations or nicknames will be counted so long as they are unambiguous.
7. Please submit vote revocations Unvote. Unvotes are not necessary before changing votes.
8. You may Vote: No Lynch - a simple majority of these vote types are required to send the game to Night phase without a lynch.
10. Any time you are dead (either via lynch or night kill) you may no longer post in the game or in shared Quicktopics. This means that you do not even get a ďBahĒ post. The dead in this game are silent.
11. If the thread is locked, you may not post.  Threads can be locked for various reasons, but no matter what the reason, you may not post.  The mod may forget to lock the thread, but if they say it is locked, it is still locked.

3. Miscellaneous/Mechanics:

1. Bold, olive text is reserved for the mod.  No invisible/small text is allowed, nor is cryptography.
2. If you have an issue/problem with the game, please discuss this in your role QT.  Do not post issues/complaints in the game thread.
3. The Mods may make mistakes - please point out any mistakes gently.  Mistakes will be corrected where possible, but sometimes mistakes are made that cannot be reversed.  These will stand as final to be commiserated over after the game.
4. Please bold all requests to the Mods so that they donít get missed.
5. Prods of missing players may be issued after 24 hours of no activity.  A prodded player has 24 hours to respond or risks replacement.  A player who has been prodded 2 times is subject to replacement under rule 3.9 without further notice. Players with announced VLA are exempt from this rule the first time it happens.
6. If you anticipate being unavailable for more than a 48-hour period please post a notice to that effect in the thread.  Treat this game as a commitment.  Be considerate Ė donít leave us hanging. Players who fail to post for 48 hours without an announcement risk being subject to replacement and/or being modkilled without further notice.
7. Please do not discuss ongoing games, it can unintentionally affect the other game. Do not discuss this game in any thread that is not directly related to it.
8. Rule violations will be dealt with according to their severity, which may include modkill(s) if needed.
9. Players who discover they are too busy to play in a game or want to leave the game for civility issues are not allowed to officially /out in the thread.  A request to /out must only be done via a post in the role QT. Please do not use this as a manipulation technique.  (Note players may continue to threaten to /out or imply that they might as long as it does not include an official request). Requests to /out are final once submitted. There will be no /outing and then /inning back into the game so make sure that when you /out you have thought it through and really want to do it. Players that can't be replaced will simply be mod-killed. Whether your request to /out will lead to replacement or a modkill is up to the mod's discretion.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Signups open!)
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2018, 05:07:17 am »

Setup

This is a closed setup. It contains roles with abilities designed specifically for this game as well as standard abilities. A player may have more or less than one ability. There is at least one possibility in this game for a player to change their alignment. Care has been taken to make this as balanced as possible. Noone's alignment can change without their consent.

Some roles in this game are AIs. Those may interact differently with other abilities than non-AI roles.

A note on flavor

This game uses the flavor from the Imperial Radch book series by Ann Leckie. Knowledge of the flavor is not required to play the game, but may enhance your experience. The setting is roughly at the start of the second book. I have taken some liberties with the source material in order to fit it to a mafia framework.

Town is known as Radch-aligned in this game. The town win condition is as follows:
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You win when all threats to the Radch have been eliminated, and there is at least one Radch-aligned player left alive, or nothing can stop this from happening.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Signups open!)
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2018, 06:15:39 am »

Welcome to RMM48: Cancer Mafia!

Cool! I've always wanted to play RMM48: Cancer Mafia!
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Signups open!)
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2018, 06:42:21 am »

Welcome to RMM48: Cancer Mafia!

Cool! I've always wanted to play RMM48: Cancer Mafia!

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Signups open!)
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2018, 12:32:27 pm »

Very much /in!!
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Signups open!)
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2018, 01:35:03 pm »

I was going to run a RM! But you can go first. :P

I love the Ancillary Series and I love role madness so I'm totes /in.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Signups open!)
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2019, 08:00:15 am »

/in, but donít know the flavor
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Signups open!)
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2019, 08:53:14 pm »

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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2019, 12:52:27 am »

/in

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Signups open!)
« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2019, 03:31:31 am »

/in

Hello
Wow, welcome back! Has it really been 2 years already?
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2019, 06:28:19 am »

/in

Hello

Hi! Yesterday I was walking with Calamitas who is now in Moscow and we were talking about you! Nice to have you back
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2019, 06:42:44 am »

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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2019, 04:32:48 pm »

/in

Hello
Wow, welcome back! Has it really been 2 years already?

It has. 2 years and a month, almost. It's good to be back.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2019, 04:33:27 pm »

/in

Hello

Hi! Yesterday I was walking with Calamitas who is now in Moscow and we were talking about you! Nice to have you back

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Signups open!)
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2019, 09:36:21 am »

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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2019, 02:13:17 pm »

Hooray for the Radch!

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« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2019, 11:28:30 am »

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« Reply #18 on: January 04, 2019, 07:29:38 pm »

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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2019, 09:53:32 am »

/in
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« Reply #20 on: January 09, 2019, 02:17:44 am »

/instead
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« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2019, 02:17:48 am »

/instead
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« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2019, 02:18:15 am »

Odd.

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (2 spots left!)
« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2019, 12:23:02 pm »

I don't want to /in on this right now, I'm a bit worried about having enough time for this and modding M121 (and don't know the flavor) but I can probably be a replacement if you need one later, and if it gets far enough into the game that you probably won't need one, send me a Speccy link please!
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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2019, 02:45:05 pm »

Note: I am only gonna be able to be in 1 mafia game at a time, so if Philosopher's mafia mafia starts before this, I will have to out.
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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2019, 10:14:58 pm »

Can anybody find me.... somebody to hammer????
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2019, 10:24:16 pm »

Can anybody find me.... somebody to hammer????

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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2019, 10:29:15 pm »

Nah, dude....thatís me!
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« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2019, 11:13:58 pm »

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« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2019, 05:19:09 pm »

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« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2019, 08:26:02 pm »

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I'm back. jtotheonah convinced me.

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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2019, 08:30:12 pm »

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I'm back. jtotheonah convinced me.

Glooble!

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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2019, 07:56:35 am »

PMs are out! N0 starts now and lasts until January 13, 2019, 04:00:00 am. Please confirm that you have read your role in your QT.

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Night 0)
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2019, 12:51:38 pm »

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #34 on: January 13, 2019, 04:08:19 am »

Athoek System was a relatively quiet corner of the vast expanse of Radch space. System Governor Giarod knew enough of the political game to make sure to keep the balance between the powerful families established here and the will of the so-called common people, and usually the Lord of the Radch would not interfere in local affairs.

But things had changed. Gates had been destroyed, and information on what exactly happened was scarce. Whatever turmoil the Radch was engulfed in, Giarod vowed to keep it out of Athoek System. That was, until she received the call from the Fleet Captain. She felt that the balance she kept was fundamentally disturbed, and it would take all of her to keep everything from toppling and burying herself under it.


Day 1 begins!

Vote Count 1.0


Not Voting (14): SpaceAnemone, jotheonah, LaLight, DatSwan, mail-mi, Awaclus, 2.71828....., WestCoastDidds, Robz888, hypercube, mcmcsalot, ashersky, Galzria, Glooble

WIth 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 ends on January 20, 2019, 04:00:00 am.

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #35 on: January 13, 2019, 04:19:41 am »

Oh no, I think we accidentally lynched this Not Voting guy.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #36 on: January 13, 2019, 04:47:06 am »

Oh no, I think we accidentally lynched this Not Voting guy.

Maybe there's still time to save her if we all pile on someone else!

vote: Awaclus
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #37 on: January 13, 2019, 05:20:50 am »

Good idea! Vote: Awaclus
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #38 on: January 13, 2019, 05:22:36 am »

Oh no, I think we accidentally lynched this Not Voting guy.

Maybe there's still time to save her if we all pile on someone else!

vote: Awaclus

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #39 on: January 13, 2019, 06:04:20 am »

Hey all - I am traveling for another few days. On vacation, not work, so should be around... but the time zone thing kind of messes me up... so probably playing catch up for the next 5 days until I am home.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #40 on: January 13, 2019, 07:43:34 am »

Oh no, I think we accidentally lynched this Not Voting guy.

Maybe there's still time to save her if we all pile on someone else!

vote: Awaclus

The only way you would know their preferred gender pronoun already is if you asked already. Which wouldíve been during N0. In your scum QT. vote: Space

Huh? What even is this "gender" nonsense? You must be an uncivilised outsider! Vote: Galz

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #41 on: January 13, 2019, 07:44:52 am »

Oh no, I think we accidentally lynched this Not Voting guy.

Maybe there's still time to save her if we all pile on someone else!

vote: Awaclus

The only way you would know their preferred gender pronoun already is if you asked already. Which wouldíve been during N0. In your scum QT. vote: Space

The Radchaii use she/her pronouns for everyone.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #42 on: January 13, 2019, 07:46:40 am »

Not knowing that makes you not Radchaii, so... vote: Galzria
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #43 on: January 13, 2019, 08:16:33 am »

Rule #1- never vote based on flavor

Vote: Glooble

Rule #2- Don't lynch people I haven't played with before on D1

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Rule #3- LaLight is always scum

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #44 on: January 13, 2019, 08:19:53 am »

And Hi! Traveling today, so might not be too active,
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #45 on: January 13, 2019, 09:13:34 am »

The universal she/her is one of the reasons the books are awesome! Gender scholars FTW!

Iím a she in both Radchaii and English, tho
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #46 on: January 13, 2019, 09:18:41 am »

Hi everyone!

I haven't read the Radch series, but I have read enough sci-fi to know that the enemy is often space, so vote: Space.
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« Reply #47 on: January 13, 2019, 10:41:50 am »

I shall do something I have not done in many, many years... Vote: Glooble

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« Reply #48 on: January 13, 2019, 11:21:57 am »

Hello!

So, I just started college this week and currently my life is homework. I will be as active as I can, but homework takes a higher priority.

That being said, vote: robz
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #49 on: January 13, 2019, 11:42:49 am »

Good to see you too, Robz.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #50 on: January 13, 2019, 12:26:15 pm »

You should study, not play! vote: mail-mi
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« Reply #51 on: January 13, 2019, 12:26:23 pm »

Hi everyone!

Iíll vote: Awaclus because Iíve recently learned that wagons is good.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #52 on: January 13, 2019, 12:27:27 pm »

Rule #1- never vote based on flavor

Vote: Glooble

Rule #2- Don't lynch people I haven't played with before on D1

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #53 on: January 13, 2019, 12:28:12 pm »

Hello!

So, I just started college this week and currently my life is homework. I will be as active as I can, but homework takes a higher priority.

That being said, vote: robz

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« Reply #54 on: January 13, 2019, 12:29:27 pm »

Hello!

So, I just started college this week and currently my life is homework. I will be as active as I can, but homework takes a higher priority.

That being said, vote: robz

Gah you are still so young Vote: Mail-mi

Robz, here, is demonstrating his tendency toward child abuse. That is a scum trait. ergo, he is scum, let's lynch him

You should study, not play! vote: mail-mi

i have plenty of time

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #55 on: January 13, 2019, 12:32:48 pm »

1. SpaceAnemone - I've played with you before.
2. jotheonah - I've played with you before too.
3. LaLight - you're cool
4. DatSwan - no idea
5. mail-mi - is the best
6. Awaclus - I've played with you before
7. 2.71828..... - hi e, I'm in a math class right now
8. WestCoastDidds - no idea
9. Robz888 - is scum
10. hypercube - no idea
11. mcmcsalot - is Robz's brother, was new the same time I was new (Remember that first newbie game?)
12. ashersky - good old ash, good to see you again. What's your plan?
13. Galzria - I might have played with you? I think you modded the pirates game
14. Glooble - don't think I've ever played with you.

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2019, 12:37:53 pm »

7. 2.71828..... - hi e, I'm in a math class right now

Sounds like fun.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2019, 12:39:54 pm »

Rule #1- never vote based on flavor

Vote: Glooble

Rule #2- Don't lynch people I haven't played with before on D1

Unvote

Rule #3- LaLight is always scum

Vote: LaLight

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« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2019, 12:42:25 pm »


So, WestCoast, DatSwan, hypercube, and Glooble, what's your mafia playing experience?

I played in this forum years and years ago. I stopped because I was taking it too seriously and it was stressing me out.
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« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2019, 12:45:13 pm »


So, WestCoast, DatSwan, hypercube, and Glooble, what's your mafia playing experience?

I played in this forum years and years ago. I stopped because I was taking it too seriously and it was stressing me out.

cool

are you scum?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2019, 12:46:16 pm »


So, WestCoast, DatSwan, hypercube, and Glooble, what's your mafia playing experience?

I played in this forum years and years ago. I stopped because I was taking it too seriously and it was stressing me out.

cool

are you scum?


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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2019, 12:47:43 pm »


So, WestCoast, DatSwan, hypercube, and Glooble, what's your mafia playing experience?

I played in this forum years and years ago. I stopped because I was taking it too seriously and it was stressing me out.

cool

are you scum?

Are you trying to stress them out?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2019, 12:50:45 pm »

1. SpaceAnemone - I've played with you before.
2. jotheonah - I've played with you before too.
3. LaLight - you're cool
4. DatSwan - no idea
5. mail-mi - is the best
6. Awaclus - I've played with you before
7. 2.71828..... - hi e, I'm in a math class right now
8. WestCoastDidds - no idea
9. Robz888 - is scum
10. hypercube - no idea
11. mcmcsalot - is Robz's brother, was new the same time I was new (Remember that first newbie game?)
12. ashersky - good old ash, good to see you again. What's your plan?
13. Galzria - I might have played with you? I think you modded the pirates game
14. Glooble - don't think I've ever played with you.

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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2019, 12:52:38 pm »

Can anyone tell anything about the flavor please?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2019, 12:53:16 pm »

Hello!

So, I just started college this week and currently my life is homework. I will be as active as I can, but homework takes a higher priority.

That being said, vote: robz

Gah you are still so young Vote: Mail-mi

Robz, here, is demonstrating his tendency toward child abuse. That is a scum trait. ergo, he is scum, let's lynch him

You should study, not play! vote: mail-mi

i have plenty of time

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Anyway, let's see, who do I not know here...

I work with kids, so I appreciate this case. vote: Robz
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2019, 12:54:23 pm »

Oh no, I think we accidentally lynched this Not Voting guy.

Maybe there's still time to save her if we all pile on someone else!

vote: Awaclus

The only way you would know their preferred gender pronoun already is if you asked already. Which wouldíve been during N0. In your scum QT. vote: Space

Huh? What even is this "gender" nonsense? You must be an uncivilised outsider! Vote: Galz

And in case anyone's confused, here's a quote from the Ancillary Justice wikipedia page: "The Radchaai do not distinguish people by gender, which Leckie conveys by using female personal pronouns for everybody, and by having the Radchaai main character guess wrongly when she has to use languages with gender-specific pronouns."

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« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2019, 01:00:35 pm »

Can anyone tell anything about the flavor please?

Itís been a little while since Iíve read the books. The Radch is an empire The is expanding, taking over humanity using living ships to annex planets. The ships can also control some number of human bodies, called Ancillaries (you donít want to know where they get the bodies.) There are aliens, but they are inscrutable and difficult to communicate with. One alien race, the Presger, is only stopped from completely annihilating humanity by a treaty, and if any individual human violates the treaty it would be very, very bad. Thereís also the Rrr and the Geck but no one knows much about them.

The Radch is ruled by Aanander Mianani (or something) and her many clones. Her mind is spread across lots of clone bodies all over the empire. Spoilers for book one Her mind seems to have split and now some of her are working against the others, threatening a civil war within the Radch
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« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2019, 01:03:22 pm »


So, WestCoast, DatSwan, hypercube, and Glooble, what's your mafia playing experience?

I played in this forum years and years ago. I stopped because I was taking it too seriously and it was stressing me out.

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Are you trying to stress them out?

It was just a question
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« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2019, 01:04:13 pm »


So, WestCoast, DatSwan, hypercube, and Glooble, what's your mafia playing experience?

I played in this forum years and years ago. I stopped because I was taking it too seriously and it was stressing me out.

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« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2019, 01:09:00 pm »


So, WestCoast, DatSwan, hypercube, and Glooble, what's your mafia playing experience?

I played in this forum years and years ago. I stopped because I was taking it too seriously and it was stressing me out.

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2019, 01:15:59 pm »


So, WestCoast, DatSwan, hypercube, and Glooble, what's your mafia playing experience?

I played in this forum years and years ago. I stopped because I was taking it too seriously and it was stressing me out.

cool

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I am Radch-aligned in this game.

cool, me too

vote robz with me

Normally I donít like to vote for someone just for voting for me. Whatís the case for Robz?
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« Reply #71 on: January 13, 2019, 01:28:20 pm »

Oh by the way: Twinclaim. Glooble and I are twins.

This is actually the original twinclaim from which the term originates.
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« Reply #72 on: January 13, 2019, 01:49:22 pm »

Gloobe and Jo are twins, me and mcmc are brothers, and Galz and DatSwan are roommates. Many twinclaims!
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« Reply #73 on: January 13, 2019, 02:06:52 pm »

Gloobe and Jo are twins, me and mcmc are brothers, and Galz and DatSwan are roommates. Many twinclaims!

it seems like e and mail-mi maybe know each other too.
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« Reply #74 on: January 13, 2019, 03:27:24 pm »

Gloobe and Jo are twins, me and mcmc are brothers, and Galz and DatSwan are roommates. Many twinclaims!

it seems like e and mail-mi maybe know each other too.

We don't. I was a math major though....so long ago....
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« Reply #75 on: January 13, 2019, 03:44:06 pm »

Can anyone tell anything about the flavor please?

Itís been a little while since Iíve read the books. The Radch is an empire The is expanding, taking over humanity using living ships to annex planets. The ships can also control some number of human bodies, called Ancillaries (you donít want to know where they get the bodies.) There are aliens, but they are inscrutable and difficult to communicate with. One alien race, the Presger, is only stopped from completely annihilating humanity by a treaty, and if any individual human violates the treaty it would be very, very bad. Thereís also the Rrr and the Geck but no one knows much about them.

The Radch is ruled by Aanander Mianani (or something) and her many clones. Her mind is spread across lots of clone bodies all over the empire. Spoilers for book one Her mind seems to have split and now some of her are working against the others, threatening a civil war within the Radch

All of this is correct, also, the lead character is Breq (the Fleet Captain), she is the AI of a ship contained in a human body. She once had lots of bodies, but now has just one, but she still has the awareness that she her mind used to be in many bodies. Her second in command is Seivarden, a human.

AIs are all over the place...Ships are AIs, and the space stations have an AI, too. Some beings have accesses where they can communicate directly with the Ship or Station on a private channel and they have access to the information they get forommcareras, connected soldiers, and other ship/station data. AIs try to keep the peace, and they have been programmed with emotions so that they can actively look out for the well being of their humans.

In the books, there are two factions Radchaii factions at odds with another.  One side is trying to shift from conquering new worlds and enslaving the humans that live there and is pushing for expansion and continued use of ancillaries. Most of the folx (humans and AIs) in Apotheok quadrant are of the former, but the latter are more dangerous.
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« Reply #76 on: January 13, 2019, 03:51:56 pm »


@mail-mi (and Glooble) Iím relatively new....Iíve played 4 games since August when I joined. Hypercube and I started together in NM11. I knew nothing about that game at all before then. I have lots of newb questions and enjoy the games most when the late-night bourbon gang is posting. 

School is just starting for me, too, but I teach so subistitute grading for homework, whatever...the struggle is real. On T/Th, I pretty much can only play during office hours. So, if you wonder what people do during office hours....
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« Reply #77 on: January 13, 2019, 03:57:12 pm »

yeah well, I basically only play during office hours with really rare exceptions, hence the limited access on weekends
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« Reply #78 on: January 13, 2019, 04:03:16 pm »

yeah well, I basically only play during office hours with really rare exceptions, hence the limited access on weekends

And here I thought you just had a really healthy life/work/game balance!
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« Reply #79 on: January 13, 2019, 04:03:58 pm »

yeah well, I basically only play during office hours with really rare exceptions, hence the limited access on weekends

And here I thought you just had a really healthy life/work/game balance!

well, you're not entirely wrong :)
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« Reply #80 on: January 13, 2019, 04:45:08 pm »

In the last RMM game I played, I had the ability to switch alignments, and I switched from evil to good to help the town, and Galz didn't believe me!
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« Reply #81 on: January 13, 2019, 04:47:32 pm »

I have a feeling, based on flavor, that alignment switching is not going to be voluntary. I suspect Aanander Mianani will have some kind of cult leader mechanic. Could be wrong of course.
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« Reply #82 on: January 13, 2019, 04:49:05 pm »

I have a feeling, based on flavor, that alignment switching is not going to be voluntary. I suspect Aanander Mianani will have some kind of cult leader mechanic. Could be wrong of course.

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« Reply #83 on: January 13, 2019, 04:53:02 pm »

I stand corrected.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #84 on: January 13, 2019, 05:39:16 pm »

People who have given at least some indication they've read Ancillary Justice: WCD, Glooble, joth (and me!)

People who appear not to know the flavour at all: Galz, LL.

What about the rest of you?

Fun fact: I once cosplayed Breq at a convention. I usually hate dressing up, but walking around with a pretty tea bowl wearing an "Awn Elming" pin seemed acceptable :-)
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« Reply #85 on: January 13, 2019, 05:44:02 pm »

Did you get the pin from one of her readings?
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« Reply #86 on: January 13, 2019, 05:44:28 pm »

yeah well, I basically only play during office hours with really rare exceptions, hence the limited access on weekends

And here I thought you just had a really healthy life/work/game balance!

Are the two of you using different definitions of "office hours" here? :-P
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« Reply #87 on: January 13, 2019, 05:45:49 pm »

Did you get the pin from one of her readings?

I bought a bag of them from her on Etsy for me and several other friends here who're fans. It came with signed book plates :-)

(I'm based in the UK.. not sure she does a lot of readings over here).
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« Reply #88 on: January 13, 2019, 05:52:39 pm »

People who have given at least some indication they've read Ancillary Justice: WCD, Glooble, joth (and me!)

People who appear not to know the flavour at all: Galz, LL.

What about the rest of you?

Fun fact: I once cosplayed Breq at a convention. I usually hate dressing up, but walking around with a pretty tea bowl wearing an "Awn Elming" pin seemed acceptable :-)

I have 0 knowledge of flavor. Is there a Radch wiki I can read that would help?
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« Reply #89 on: January 13, 2019, 05:53:45 pm »

On the subject of being in the UK, what timezones are the rest of you in? Who's actually likely to be awake for a 4am forum time deadline?
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« Reply #90 on: January 13, 2019, 05:58:44 pm »

I have no knowledge of the flavor.
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« Reply #91 on: January 13, 2019, 05:59:40 pm »

People who have given at least some indication they've read Ancillary Justice: WCD, Glooble, joth (and me!)

People who appear not to know the flavour at all: Galz, LL.

What about the rest of you?

Fun fact: I once cosplayed Breq at a convention. I usually hate dressing up, but walking around with a pretty tea bowl wearing an "Awn Elming" pin seemed acceptable :-)

I have 0 knowledge of flavor. Is there a Radch wiki I can read that would help?

Hmm.. no idea really. Google finds me this wiki, but I haven't determined whether it's something you'd think would help: http://imperial-radch.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Content

I can definitely recommend reading Ancillary Justice, though!
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« Reply #92 on: January 13, 2019, 05:59:55 pm »

On the subject of being in the UK, what timezones are the rest of you in? Who's actually likely to be awake for a 4am forum time deadline?

I'm in mountain time zone, so it'll be 2 am for me. I can probably be there til like 2 hours before deadline
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« Reply #93 on: January 13, 2019, 06:06:54 pm »

Iím in Eastern time but I go to bed pretty early.
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« Reply #94 on: January 13, 2019, 06:13:47 pm »


Fun fact: I once cosplayed Breq at a convention. I usually hate dressing up, but walking around with a pretty tea bowl wearing an "Awn Elming" pin seemed acceptable :-)

I love this!
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« Reply #95 on: January 13, 2019, 06:14:55 pm »

I'm in UTC+2. I woke up at 21 today (technically yesterday) and I'm trying to fix my sleep schedule by moving it forward so I would assume that I'm awake for the deadline at least on D1, but no guarantees.

I haven't even heard of the flavor.
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« Reply #96 on: January 13, 2019, 06:15:54 pm »

Iím in Eastern time but I go to bed pretty early.

Is eastern the same as forum time?

I'm guessing from mail-mi's comment that Mountain is FT-2.

I'm on FT+5, but my sleep hours are 1am-9am local time, so that is exactly the 8 hours running up to the deadline.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #97 on: January 13, 2019, 06:18:18 pm »

Yes, forum time is Eastern. Iím an in US Central, an hour behind Forum Time (FT-1).

I go to bed before 10 on weekdays, so definitely not around at deadline
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #98 on: January 13, 2019, 06:18:37 pm »

Man, this is such a crappy wagon. Let's join a different one.

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« Reply #99 on: January 13, 2019, 07:00:57 pm »

So, WestCoast, DatSwan, hypercube, and Glooble, what's your mafia playing experience?

This is my fourth game of forum mafia. I've played a decent amount IRL as well.

I'm in UTC +1, usual posting hours for me are 500 FT to 1900 FT or so. I should be able to make a 400 FT deadline.

Note that we have plurality lynching but having a tied vote is really bad:

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The wording "the player that would take the least number of additional votes to lynch dies" seems non-standard and suggests that there's going to be something strange going on with voting.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #100 on: January 13, 2019, 07:01:32 pm »

Townread on space. I remember him usually doing all this setup and stuff like this as town

Or maybe it's just a spaceread on space.

Man, this is such a crappy wagon. Let's join a different one.

Vote: Galzria

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #101 on: January 13, 2019, 07:14:35 pm »

I have zero knowledge of the flavor and won't learn it.

The disclaimer about alignment switches makes me think we will have them, somehow. I think it's something faust would enjoy trying to do and figure out how to make it balanced. Some kind of cult mechanic isn't crazy either, though. Maybe scum can recruit?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #102 on: January 13, 2019, 07:17:57 pm »

I remember him usually doing all this setup and stuff like this as town

Okay, let's get this out of the way: I AM NOT, AND NEVER HAVE BEEN, A "HE"!!! Sorry for being shouty, but while you've been gone, the whole forum has got a lot more progressive about respecting people's gender presentation and pronouns, and I'd really like to keep that progress!

My preferred pronoun is they/them, and it's even in my sig line to help people remember. I'll settle for she/her in general, and especially for this game, since it's very in keeping for the flavour.



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« Reply #103 on: January 13, 2019, 07:20:46 pm »

I remember him usually doing all this setup and stuff like this as town

Okay, let's get this out of the way: I AM NOT, AND NEVER HAVE BEEN, A "HE"!!! Sorry for being shouty, but while you've been gone, the whole forum has got a lot more progressive about respecting people's gender presentation and pronouns, and I'd really like to keep that progress!

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #104 on: January 13, 2019, 07:28:59 pm »

Actually, Vote: mail-mi

While it might sound like pronoun-omgus, I've just realised that I haven't been doing setup stuff at all, so characterizing me as having done so is weird. I've talked about the flavour, because it's something I like, and about timezones because it's something I'm generally conscious of as someone who's not on the American continent.

I haven't really begun posting my thoughts on how the game mechanics and real set-up stuff might go, because the stuff I've thought of doesn't really fit with a anything I'd see as a balanced game.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #105 on: January 13, 2019, 07:29:27 pm »

it's even in my sig line to help people remember.

To be fair, the way you have it in your sig mostly just makes it look like you modded the Pronouns: they/them mafia.
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« Reply #106 on: January 13, 2019, 07:34:23 pm »

Actually, Vote: mail-mi

While it might sound like pronoun-omgus, I've just realised that I haven't been doing setup stuff at all, so characterizing me as having done so is weird. I've talked about the flavour, because it's something I like, and about timezones because it's something I'm generally conscious of as someone who's not on the American continent.

I haven't really begun posting my thoughts on how the game mechanics and real set-up stuff might go, because the stuff I've thought of doesn't really fit with a anything I'd see as a balanced game.

By "set up" stuff I was talking about flavor and time zones, along with the game set up. Honestly it's a closed game so there's not much actual set up stuff we can do

Actually for those that know flavor, would a flavor claim be good? Or not
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« Reply #107 on: January 13, 2019, 07:43:22 pm »

vote: mail-mi

Mass claims on day one are always a bad idea.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #108 on: January 13, 2019, 07:59:39 pm »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)
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« Reply #109 on: January 13, 2019, 08:19:25 pm »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)

I can sheep that vote.

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« Reply #110 on: January 13, 2019, 08:21:07 pm »

ah, a day 1 wagon on me. some things never change

vote: mail-mi

Mass claims on day one are always a bad idea.

You're probably right. I guess a better question would be, are there obvious flavor names that would be scum?
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« Reply #111 on: January 13, 2019, 08:21:21 pm »

Also unvote
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« Reply #112 on: January 13, 2019, 08:24:10 pm »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)

When does scum ever actually do this? Scum doesn't need to pounce at this juncture. Scum just needs to wait for a good-looking town wagon and slide onboard.
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« Reply #113 on: January 13, 2019, 08:25:08 pm »

ah, a day 1 wagon on me. some things never change

vote: mail-mi

Mass claims on day one are always a bad idea.

You're probably right. I guess a better question would be, are there obvious flavor names that would be scum?

There are probably obvious scum flavors, but I doubt that the game would be designed in such a way that a mass claim would out scum on D1.
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« Reply #114 on: January 13, 2019, 08:26:07 pm »

I suspect scum has been given fake claims if their flavor would give them away.
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« Reply #115 on: January 13, 2019, 08:31:12 pm »

ah, a day 1 wagon on me. some things never change

vote: mail-mi

Mass claims on day one are always a bad idea.

You're probably right. I guess a better question would be, are there obvious flavor names that would be scum?

There are probably obvious scum flavors, but I doubt that the game would be designed in such a way that a mass claim would out scum on D1.

You are also probably right. Worth a suggestion, at least.
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« Reply #116 on: January 13, 2019, 08:57:04 pm »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)

When does scum ever actually do this? Scum doesn't need to pounce at this juncture. Scum just needs to wait for a good-looking town wagon and slide onboard.

Well, scum wants to look like they're.scumhunting.

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« Reply #117 on: January 13, 2019, 09:07:20 pm »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)

When does scum ever actually do this? Scum doesn't need to pounce at this juncture. Scum just needs to wait for a good-looking town wagon and slide onboard.

Well, scum wants to look like they're.scumhunting.

vote: joth

vote: hypercube

This is exactly the position scum wants to be on the wagon. Voting for someone who already has votes, and turning a couple votes into an actual wagon

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« Reply #118 on: January 13, 2019, 09:10:33 pm »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)

When does scum ever actually do this? Scum doesn't need to pounce at this juncture. Scum just needs to wait for a good-looking town wagon and slide onboard.

Well, scum wants to look like they're.scumhunting.

vote: joth

vote: hypercube

This is exactly the position scum wants to be on the wagon. Voting for someone who already has votes, and turning a couple votes into an actual wagon

I know that didn't make much sense, I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words. I hope you (meaning the general populus)understands what I'm trying to say

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« Reply #119 on: January 13, 2019, 09:11:31 pm »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)

When does scum ever actually do this? Scum doesn't need to pounce at this juncture. Scum just needs to wait for a good-looking town wagon and slide onboard.

Well, scum wants to look like they're.scumhunting.

vote: joth

vote: hypercube

This is exactly the position scum wants to be on the wagon. Voting for someone who already has votes, and turning a couple votes into an actual wagon

I know that didn't make much sense, I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words. I hope you (meaning the general populus)understands what I'm trying to say

Wagons are good, I will proudly take my place as the person who turned a couple of votes into a wagon.

good to know
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #120 on: January 13, 2019, 09:23:53 pm »

@Hyper- Thanks for the reminder about the plurality things and the anti-town tie vote resolution. It does seem unusual and worth noting but itís buried in the start up text.

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1. SpaceAnemone - I've played with you before.
2. jotheonah - I've played with you before too.
3. LaLight - you're cool
4. DatSwan - no idea
5. mail-mi - is the best
6. Awaclus - I've played with you before
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8. WestCoastDidds - no idea
9. Robz888 - is scum
10. hypercube - no idea
11. mcmcsalot - is Robz's brother, was new the same time I was new (Remember that first newbie game?)
12. ashersky - good old ash, good to see you again. What's your plan?
13. Galzria - I might have played with you? I think you modded the pirates game
14. Glooble - don't think I've ever played with you.

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« Reply #122 on: January 13, 2019, 10:58:09 pm »

So what is everyone's preferred pronoun?

Mine is he/him
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« Reply #123 on: January 13, 2019, 10:59:20 pm »

I am he/ him and also editing my previous post - evidently more like 20 games on fds.... oh how time flies
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« Reply #124 on: January 14, 2019, 01:30:08 am »

So what is everyone's preferred pronoun?

Mine is he/him

I don't particularly have a preferred pronoun but I'm male so he/him is technically correct.
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« Reply #125 on: January 14, 2019, 01:48:47 am »

So what is everyone's preferred pronoun?

Mine is he/him

I don't particularly have a preferred pronoun but I'm male so he/him is technically correct.
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« Reply #126 on: January 14, 2019, 03:21:16 am »

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If the deadline is hit without a player reaching the majority of votes, the player that would take the least number of additional votes to lynch dies. If there is a tie, a town player dies before a non-town player. Otherwise, who dies is determined randomly.

The wording "the player that would take the least number of additional votes to lynch dies" seems non-standard and suggests that there's going to be something strange going on with voting.

I've been thinking about that. I think hated/loved is in play considering the wording? Other than that it's pretty strange about town player duing before non-town one.

faust, will it be possible to differ the "town player before non-town dies" or if it is a coin flip? I mean if two people have the same amount of votes, will it be possible to recognize if the one who would be lynched is a town and the second is a non-town or if that was a coin flip?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #127 on: January 14, 2019, 03:23:03 am »

Addition to the previous question:if one of the player is Hated and is lynched because of that, will you point to that in some way?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #128 on: January 14, 2019, 03:24:47 am »

oh, and also vote: hypercube for reading the setup
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #129 on: January 14, 2019, 03:37:25 am »

Vote Count 1.1

Galzria (2): Glooble, Awaclus
Robz888 (1): Galzria
mail-mi (2): SpaceAnemone, jotheonah
jotheonah (3): Robz888, 2.71828....., hypercube
hypercube (2): mail-mi, LaLight

Not Voting (4): DatSwan, WestCoastDidds, mcmcsalot, ashersky

WIth 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 ends on January 20, 2019, 04:00:00 am.

faust, will it be possible to differ the "town player before non-town dies" or if it is a coin flip? I mean if two people have the same amount of votes, will it be possible to recognize if the one who would be lynched is a town and the second is a non-town or if that was a coin flip?
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Addition to the previous question:if one of the player is Hated and is lynched because of that, will you point to that in some way?
No.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #130 on: January 14, 2019, 04:33:33 am »

ok then

should we just wagon two or more players that are the scummiest every day, so we will have a bit of extra info?
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« Reply #131 on: January 14, 2019, 04:34:29 am »

screw that, it's a bad idea
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #132 on: January 14, 2019, 07:27:21 am »

I donít love any of these new wagons that are forming, but my Galz vote was more or less completely random and now I have better options. Hypercube, Iím leaning towards changing my vote to you right now. Would you care to explain your vote for joth and your ďwagons are goodĒ comment? It seems to me that rushing a wagon at this point makes a lot more sense if youíre scum.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #133 on: January 14, 2019, 07:41:30 am »

I donít love any of these new wagons that are forming, but my Galz vote was more or less completely random and now I have better options. Hypercube, Iím leaning towards changing my vote to you right now. Would you care to explain your vote for joth and your ďwagons are goodĒ comment? It seems to me that rushing a wagon at this point makes a lot more sense if youíre scum.

I thought Robz's point about joth jumping on mail-mi for something that scum probably doesn't need to do (pushing a flavour claim) was reasonable, and I wanted to move off of my jokey vote on Space.

Wagons are good for several reasons: they lead to the player being wagoned defending themselves, which gives more information as to their alignment, they give us a record of people's opinions which will be useful once we have some flips, and they move the game along out of the fluffy early part.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #134 on: January 14, 2019, 07:47:14 am »

I use he/him pronouns but if you want to really get into the flavour and use feminine ones for me that's fine.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #135 on: January 14, 2019, 08:16:54 am »

oh, and also vote: hypercube for reading the setup

What do you mean by this? Is this just an early random vote?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #136 on: January 14, 2019, 08:38:23 am »


Happy Monday, friends! I hope itís a great week!

Lalight (or anyone), can you tell me what hates/loved means? Also, twinclaim? Thank you!
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #137 on: January 14, 2019, 08:45:05 am »


Happy Monday, friends! I hope itís a great week!

Lalight (or anyone), can you tell me what hates/loved means? Also, twinclaim? Thank you!

If someone is hated, they take 1 less vote to lynch. It's the opposite with someone who is loved

Twinclaim means that 2 or more people know each other in real life.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #138 on: January 14, 2019, 08:45:47 am »

oh, and also vote: hypercube for reading the setup

What do you mean by this? Is this just an early random vote?

In my experience scum is more inclined to read the setup thoroughly to not accidentally show they have more information than other people
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« Reply #139 on: January 14, 2019, 09:03:41 am »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)

When does scum ever actually do this? Scum doesn't need to pounce at this juncture. Scum just needs to wait for a good-looking town wagon and slide onboard.

Well, scum wants to look like they're.scumhunting.

vote: joth

vote: hypercube

This is exactly the position scum wants to be on the wagon. Voting for someone who already has votes, and turning a couple votes into an actual wagon

I know that didn't make much sense, I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words. I hope you (meaning the general populus)understands what I'm trying to say

What do people think of this post from mail-mi? Specifically, responding to a vote on himself by voting for the person who's voting for him?

To me it kind of reinforces my scumread, though I can't quite say why.

Like I actually don't think the point he's making is bad. But it's a really interesting way to respond to a vote on him and an immediate wagon on the person who voted for him.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #140 on: January 14, 2019, 09:04:37 am »

oh, and also vote: hypercube for reading the setup

What do you mean by this? Is this just an early random vote?

In my experience scum is more inclined to read the setup thoroughly to not accidentally show they have more information than other people

If I was scum I doubt I would have pointed that out. I'm well aware that I'm not going to be getting any town points for doing so.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #141 on: January 14, 2019, 09:10:59 am »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)

When does scum ever actually do this? Scum doesn't need to pounce at this juncture. Scum just needs to wait for a good-looking town wagon and slide onboard.

Well, scum wants to look like they're.scumhunting.

vote: joth

vote: hypercube

This is exactly the position scum wants to be on the wagon. Voting for someone who already has votes, and turning a couple votes into an actual wagon

I know that didn't make much sense, I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words. I hope you (meaning the general populus)understands what I'm trying to say

What do people think of this post from mail-mi? Specifically, responding to a vote on himself by voting for the person who's voting for him?

To me it kind of reinforces my scumread, though I can't quite say why.

Like I actually don't think the point he's making is bad. But it's a really interesting way to respond to a vote on him and an immediate wagon on the person who voted for him.

I also thought it was a strange reaction; I'm not sure what to think of mail-mi at this point. Trying to discourage wagons from forming feels like it could just be anti-town town play.
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« Reply #142 on: January 14, 2019, 09:25:58 am »

Well this has been enlightening. I have to go do work away from my computer, I'll check in at lunch if I have time, in the meantime,

vote:mail-mi

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #143 on: January 14, 2019, 09:29:30 am »

Vote: hypercube

I like joth's reaction, let's change up a bit
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #144 on: January 14, 2019, 09:36:27 am »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)

When does scum ever actually do this? Scum doesn't need to pounce at this juncture. Scum just needs to wait for a good-looking town wagon and slide onboard.

Well, scum wants to look like they're.scumhunting.

vote: joth

vote: hypercube

This is exactly the position scum wants to be on the wagon. Voting for someone who already has votes, and turning a couple votes into an actual wagon

I know that didn't make much sense, I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words. I hope you (meaning the general populus)understands what I'm trying to say

What do people think of this post from mail-mi? Specifically, responding to a vote on himself by voting for the person who's voting for him?

To me it kind of reinforces my scumread, though I can't quite say why.

Like I actually don't think the point he's making is bad. But it's a really interesting way to respond to a vote on him and an immediate wagon on the person who voted for him.

I also thought it was a strange reaction; I'm not sure what to think of mail-mi at this point. Trying to discourage wagons from forming feels like it could just be anti-town town play.

Iím having a hard time following because we seem to be talking in a circle. Mail-mi seems to be saying that scum can take advantage of wagons. Well,obvi.

But Iím not sure wagons are anti-town because of all the reasons that they provide good info.

The votes coming out of this discussion seem a bit meh to me, though. More odd attempted articulations of some not terribly important points, it seems to me. Similarly, Iím not finding hyper scummy for reading the set up carefully. I think as a relative newb, I read carefully so that I can make sure I understand what is going on and since I am even more unaccustomed to closed games, that kind of thing feels important to me. so, what heís doing makes sense to me and reminding us all of the plurality seems pro-town.  Iíd find it way more suspicious if he was one of the more experienced players.

Speaking of, more experienced players....where you at?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #145 on: January 14, 2019, 09:51:28 am »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)

When does scum ever actually do this? Scum doesn't need to pounce at this juncture. Scum just needs to wait for a good-looking town wagon and slide onboard.

Well, scum wants to look like they're.scumhunting.

vote: joth

vote: hypercube

This is exactly the position scum wants to be on the wagon. Voting for someone who already has votes, and turning a couple votes into an actual wagon

I know that didn't make much sense, I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words. I hope you (meaning the general populus)understands what I'm trying to say

What do people think of this post from mail-mi? Specifically, responding to a vote on himself by voting for the person who's voting for him?

To me it kind of reinforces my scumread, though I can't quite say why.

Like I actually don't think the point he's making is bad. But it's a really interesting way to respond to a vote on him and an immediate wagon on the person who voted for him.

I also thought it was a strange reaction; I'm not sure what to think of mail-mi at this point. Trying to discourage wagons from forming feels like it could just be anti-town town play.

I'm not necessarily discouraging wagons from forming (for example, I'm currently enjoying the wagon on you), I just think you decided to place yourself on a particularly scummy place on said wagon. Is my scum read on you particularly strong? No, but it's early day 1, so it's something to go on.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #146 on: January 14, 2019, 09:53:04 am »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)

When does scum ever actually do this? Scum doesn't need to pounce at this juncture. Scum just needs to wait for a good-looking town wagon and slide onboard.

Well, scum wants to look like they're.scumhunting.

vote: joth

vote: hypercube

This is exactly the position scum wants to be on the wagon. Voting for someone who already has votes, and turning a couple votes into an actual wagon

I know that didn't make much sense, I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words. I hope you (meaning the general populus)understands what I'm trying to say

What do people think of this post from mail-mi? Specifically, responding to a vote on himself by voting for the person who's voting for him?

To me it kind of reinforces my scumread, though I can't quite say why.

Like I actually don't think the point he's making is bad. But it's a really interesting way to respond to a vote on him and an immediate wagon on the person who voted for him.

I also thought it was a strange reaction; I'm not sure what to think of mail-mi at this point. Trying to discourage wagons from forming feels like it could just be anti-town town play.

Iím having a hard time following because we seem to be talking in a circle. Mail-mi seems to be saying that scum can take advantage of wagons. Well,obvi.

But Iím not sure wagons are anti-town because of all the reasons that they provide good info.

The votes coming out of this discussion seem a bit meh to me, though. More odd attempted articulations of some not terribly important points, it seems to me. Similarly, Iím not finding hyper scummy for reading the set up carefully. I think as a relative newb, I read carefully so that I can make sure I understand what is going on and since I am even more unaccustomed to closed games, that kind of thing feels important to me. so, what heís doing makes sense to me and reminding us all of the plurality seems pro-town.  Iíd find it way more suspicious if he was one of the more experienced players.

Speaking of, more experienced players....where you at?

Yeah I always try to read the setup, especially in an RMM game (and especially especially in a Faust RMM game). So that's not a point for or against hypercube
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« Reply #147 on: January 14, 2019, 09:53:23 am »

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #148 on: January 14, 2019, 01:48:47 pm »

Vote: Jotheonah

This felt like pouncing on mail-mi for something that might very well be wrong but was not especially likely to come from scum. (Town needs no help tricking itself into mass claiming.)

When does scum ever actually do this? Scum doesn't need to pounce at this juncture. Scum just needs to wait for a good-looking town wagon and slide onboard.

Well, scum wants to look like they're.scumhunting.

vote: joth

vote: hypercube

This is exactly the position scum wants to be on the wagon. Voting for someone who already has votes, and turning a couple votes into an actual wagon

I know that didn't make much sense, I'm having a hard time putting my thoughts into words. I hope you (meaning the general populus)understands what I'm trying to say

What do people think of this post from mail-mi? Specifically, responding to a vote on himself by voting for the person who's voting for him?

To me it kind of reinforces my scumread, though I can't quite say why.

Like I actually don't think the point he's making is bad. But it's a really interesting way to respond to a vote on him and an immediate wagon on the person who voted for him.

I recall mail-mi as sort of a stream of consciousness voter.
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« Reply #149 on: January 14, 2019, 02:37:19 pm »

^^what robz said. I say what I think
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #150 on: January 14, 2019, 02:54:59 pm »

^^what robz said. I say what I think

I'm sure that, when you're town, you do. And I'm sure that, when you're scum, you pretend to. So we all have to ask ourselves, does mail-mi's stream of consciousness posting feel authentic and sincere?
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« Reply #151 on: January 14, 2019, 03:01:11 pm »

^^what robz said. I say what I think

I'm sure that, when you're town, you do. And I'm sure that, when you're scum, you pretend to. So we all have to ask ourselves, does mail-mi's stream of consciousness posting feel authentic and sincere?
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« Reply #152 on: January 14, 2019, 03:02:23 pm »

Looks like everyone has posted except ash, mcmc, and gala. Where y'all at?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #153 on: January 14, 2019, 03:05:51 pm »

Looks like everyone has posted except ash, mcmc, and gala. Where y'all at?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #154 on: January 14, 2019, 03:08:30 pm »

Looks like everyone has posted except ash, mcmc, and gala. Where y'all at?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #155 on: January 14, 2019, 03:13:59 pm »

Similarly, Iím not finding hyper scummy for reading the set up carefully. I think as a relative newb, I read carefully so that I can make sure I understand what is going on and since I am even more unaccustomed to closed games, that kind of thing feels important to me. so, what heís doing makes sense to me and reminding us all of the plurality seems pro-town.  Iíd find it way more suspicious if he was one of the more experienced players.

Reminding people about the setup is also something scum can easily do to get town points for reminding people about the set up. It's all just WIFOM, and I don't think in this case sways hypercube's scumminess either way.
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« Reply #156 on: January 14, 2019, 03:44:06 pm »

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #157 on: January 14, 2019, 04:00:25 pm »

Vote: hypercube
Why?

Is hypercube your scumbuddy?

Nope I'm just trying to create conversation. I know why I'm voting for him (the main reason is wagon placement as explained) but I'm wondering why e is voting for him
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« Reply #158 on: January 14, 2019, 04:02:32 pm »

Nope I'm just trying to create conversation. I know why I'm voting for him (the main reason is wagon placement as explained) but I'm wondering why e is voting for him

A better way to create conversation would be to explain why you aren't scum.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #159 on: January 14, 2019, 04:52:03 pm »

Looks like everyone has posted except ash, mcmc, and gala. Where y'all at?


Galz posted some early on. I think I voted for her briefly.


Sidenote: I'm inclined to use she/her pronouns for everyone in light of the flavor but if you really don't want me to do that please let me know.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #160 on: January 14, 2019, 06:17:51 pm »

Nope I'm just trying to create conversation. I know why I'm voting for him (the main reason is wagon placement as explained) but I'm wondering why e is voting for him

A better way to create conversation would be to explain why you aren't scum.

ok

Actually, Vote: mail-mi

While it might sound like pronoun-omgus, I've just realised that I haven't been doing setup stuff at all, so characterizing me as having done so is weird. I've talked about the flavour, because it's something I like, and about timezones because it's something I'm generally conscious of as someone who's not on the American continent.

I haven't really begun posting my thoughts on how the game mechanics and real set-up stuff might go, because the stuff I've thought of doesn't really fit with a anything I'd see as a balanced game.

I explained this part, that when I was referencing SA doing "setup stuff," I was meaning that they were doing flavor talking and timezone talking and all that jazz. In a way, you could refer to what I was talking as "setup stuff" as "pregame stuff," like "okay, let's talk a little bit about flavor and then about timezones, and then we'll get into scumhunting and such."

note that I did townread SA for that, because that's something I think town!SA does.

vote: mail-mi

Mass claims on day one are always a bad idea.

it was only a suggestion, not something that I was planning on going through unless there was considerable consensus on the idea. There may be some town PR with a role that relies on flavor names, or something like that, that would benefit from a flavor claim. There may also be a scum role that does so. We don't know--that's why I asked.

What do people think of this post from mail-mi? Specifically, responding to a vote on himself by voting for the person who's voting for him?

To me it kind of reinforces my scumread, though I can't quite say why.

Like I actually don't think the point he's making is bad. But it's a really interesting way to respond to a vote on him and an immediate wagon on the person who voted for him.


i think it's an ok post by mail-mi


I also thought it was a strange reaction; I'm not sure what to think of mail-mi at this point. Trying to discourage wagons from forming feels like it could just be anti-town town play.

I'm not trying to discourage wagons (for example, I don't care if Joth gets more votes on him or not). I just felt that scum!hypercube saw the opportunity to slip onto a quickly forming wagon (on what in this case would be town!joth) without too much of a consequence. Well, now there's a consequence--there's a wagon on him now.

Well this has been enlightening. I have to go do work away from my computer, I'll check in at lunch if I have time, in the meantime,

vote:mail-mi


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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #161 on: January 14, 2019, 06:18:32 pm »

tl;dr mail-mi is not scum.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #162 on: January 14, 2019, 06:19:09 pm »

Nope I'm just trying to create conversation. I know why I'm voting for him (the main reason is wagon placement as explained) but I'm wondering why e is voting for him

A better way to create conversation would be to explain why you aren't scum.

ok now it's your turn
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #163 on: January 14, 2019, 06:19:55 pm »

tl;dr mail-mi is not scum.

You only quoted other people. Other people's posts aren't evidence why you aren't scum.
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« Reply #164 on: January 14, 2019, 06:21:56 pm »

Nope I'm just trying to create conversation. I know why I'm voting for him (the main reason is wagon placement as explained) but I'm wondering why e is voting for him

A better way to create conversation would be to explain why you aren't scum.

ok now it's your turn

It's still pretty early in the game and so the only really noteworthy things I have done was voting Galz and asking you to explain why you're town, both of which are pro-town things to do.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #165 on: January 14, 2019, 06:25:07 pm »

tl;dr mail-mi is not scum.

You only quoted other people. Other people's posts aren't evidence why you aren't scum.

False, I responded to the accusations others were making against me.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #166 on: January 14, 2019, 06:25:58 pm »

it's even in my sig line to help people remember.

To be fair, the way you have it in your sig mostly just makes it look like you modded the Pronouns: they/them mafia.

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« Reply #167 on: January 14, 2019, 06:33:48 pm »

False, I responded to the accusations others were making against me.

Which is useless because it doesn't do anything to prove that you aren't scum for reasons that nobody has accused you for.
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« Reply #168 on: January 14, 2019, 06:35:22 pm »

False, I responded to the accusations others were making against me.

Which is useless because it doesn't do anything to prove that you aren't scum for reasons that nobody has accused you for.

well here's something. I've been adding to the conversation and creating some, when scum!me would be content with maintaining the meta of "oh he's just a lurker, we'll figure out if he's scum sooner or later".

better?
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« Reply #169 on: January 14, 2019, 06:37:43 pm »

False, I responded to the accusations others were making against me.

Which is useless because it doesn't do anything to prove that you aren't scum for reasons that nobody has accused you for.

well here's something. I've been adding to the conversation and creating some, when scum!me would be content with maintaining the meta of "oh he's just a lurker, we'll figure out if he's scum sooner or later".

better?

Yeah, at least that's something.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #170 on: January 14, 2019, 06:40:38 pm »

Busy day.. read a little from work but I try not to post from there except at lunch. Maybe I should collect up reactions to stuff in one tidy post now rather than spamming the thread with possible fluff.

Re the Mail-mi conversation, I see a big difference between useful logistics (like working out who knows the flavour and preempting and last-minute complaints about deadline timings) and actual set-up stuff. My usual "thing" is to get very into probabilities and analysis of configurations, which I just can't do here. Am I just being too particular about my definition?

I agree that massclaims aren't going to get us far on D1. I probably like D3 for that sort of thing, or maybe D4 depending on what info we get about how this game works from the flips. Not sure it's worth joth jumping on Mail-mi for the comment, though we have to find reasons to vote somewhere. Robz and e's reaction-votes seem totally fair.

On the actual topic of flavour that Mail-mi was trying to steer towards, I think it's highly likely that faust has made the game unbreakable for flavour claims. I'm sure there was a discussion somewhere around here quite recently about how to assign flavour names. Was it during the Dirk Gently game? I'd have to go and look, but other people almost certainly have better memories than me.

I agree with hyper's stance on wagons being good. They're excellent for PPE later in the game if townie people don't always sit in one spot the whole time, because there are certain patterns of votes that scums just don't feel comfortable with, and there's always the risk that bussing scums trying not to be obvious about who their partners are end up taking it too far. Recently, late-game me has gotten frustrated with early-game me for not making enough use of votes in D1 to help me later on with my analysis. I do often find D1 just really hard to get my teeth into, though, so don't expect me to do too well at this one all at once :-P
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #171 on: January 14, 2019, 06:42:23 pm »

I think continuing to focus on mail-mi so much--something Joth is doing--is somewhat scummy. I've often seen mail-mi make himself into an easy target in games past, perhaps especially when town.
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« Reply #172 on: January 14, 2019, 06:43:20 pm »

oh, and also vote: hypercube for reading the setup

What do you mean by this? Is this just an early random vote?

In my experience scum is more inclined to read the setup thoroughly to not accidentally show they have more information than other people

Is that really the case? I think certain people as scum are more likely to have a grasp of the complexities of a setup because while they're not players who might usually pore over the setup text thinking about interactions, if they have scumbuddies then they might pick things up in the scum QT that they wouldn't be expected to come up with alone. While I don't know hyper that well, I'm not sure I'd put him into the group of people who I wouldn't expect to read and think about it on their own. (My prototypical person I'm thinking of for that group is PPS!).
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« Reply #173 on: January 14, 2019, 06:44:13 pm »

Mafia often have a better grasp of the setup because they have more data points: two or three or four or whatever people with powers.
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« Reply #174 on: January 14, 2019, 06:44:27 pm »

Apropos of nothing, mcmc has yet to post. Get in here, mcmc!
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« Reply #175 on: January 14, 2019, 07:09:49 pm »

Re the Mail-mi conversation, I see a big difference between useful logistics (like working out who knows the flavour and preempting and last-minute complaints about deadline timings) and actual set-up stuff. My usual "thing" is to get very into probabilities and analysis of configurations, which I just can't do here. Am I just being too particular about my definition?
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« Reply #176 on: January 14, 2019, 09:13:07 pm »

it's even in my sig line to help people remember.

To be fair, the way you have it in your sig mostly just makes it look like you modded the Pronouns: they/them mafia.

Ah, well there's my theme for next time I want to run a game :-)

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Mail-miís robust engagement with Awa is looking awfully town to me.
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« Reply #177 on: January 14, 2019, 09:28:42 pm »

I think continuing to focus on mail-mi so much--something Joth is doing--is somewhat scummy. I've often seen mail-mi make himself into an easy target in games past, perhaps especially when town.

I agree.

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« Reply #178 on: January 14, 2019, 09:33:10 pm »

Mail-miís defense did swap her over to a town read for me. But I donít have a wagon I like better so I guess just unvote for now.
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« Reply #179 on: January 14, 2019, 09:40:25 pm »

I think continuing to focus on mail-mi so much--something Joth is doing--is somewhat scummy. I've often seen mail-mi make himself into an easy target in games past, perhaps especially when town.

I agree.

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« Reply #180 on: January 14, 2019, 09:44:54 pm »

vote: robz

Also I should clarify, when I said ďI agreeĒ I meant I agree that mail-mi is seeming townie. Not that I was being scummy! I of course was and am being extremely pro-town.
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« Reply #181 on: January 14, 2019, 10:10:09 pm »

What's up with the Robz votes?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #182 on: January 14, 2019, 11:50:04 pm »

What's up with the Robz votes?

What isn't up with the Robz votes?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #183 on: January 15, 2019, 12:45:48 am »

What's up with the Robz votes?

What isn't up with the Robz votes?

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #184 on: January 15, 2019, 01:06:51 am »

Nope I'm just trying to create conversation. I know why I'm voting for him (the main reason is wagon placement as explained) but I'm wondering why e is voting for him

A better way to create conversation would be to explain why you aren't scum.

ok now it's your turn

It's still pretty early in the game and so the only really noteworthy things I have done was voting Galz and asking you to explain why you're town, both of which are pro-town things to do.

How do you know it is pro town to vote Galz?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #185 on: January 15, 2019, 01:14:52 am »

Nope I'm just trying to create conversation. I know why I'm voting for him (the main reason is wagon placement as explained) but I'm wondering why e is voting for him

A better way to create conversation would be to explain why you aren't scum.

How is that possible at this point?

I wanna make it clear I am NOT white knighting Mal, but scrutinizing Awaclus.

It is Day 1, there is literally no information than the information that you know about yourself.
There haven't been any flips, claims, or even moderately large wagons.

How is one supposed to prove their town-i-ness at this point? What exactly are you expecting of them?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #186 on: January 15, 2019, 01:20:41 am »

someone mentioned earlier in the game that "skum just wants to make it look like they are skum hunting for credit".

asking questions like these pretty much meet that criteria imo

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #187 on: January 15, 2019, 01:54:42 am »

How do you know it is pro town to vote Galz?

There was a small wagon on Galz and I made it one vote larger. That's always pro town. Are you implying that I scumslipped that Galz is my scumbuddy?

How is that possible at this point?

Are you even reading the thread? There have been two examples of this already, by mail-mi and me, respectively.

I wanna make it clear I am NOT white knighting Mal, but scrutinizing Awaclus.

It is Day 1, there is literally no information than the information that you know about yourself.
There haven't been any flips, claims, or even moderately large wagons.

How is one supposed to prove their town-i-ness at this point?

Well, I suppose it would be difficult to do unless you are actually town. Vote: DatSwan

someone mentioned earlier in the game that "skum just wants to make it look like they are skum hunting for credit".

asking questions like these pretty much meet that criteria imo

No it doesn't, this is significantly more useful than what you are doing.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #188 on: January 15, 2019, 02:29:37 am »

Apologies all, for the not posting until now thing.  Crazy busy + sort of forgot about the game.

Caught up, not a lot of content for 8 pages of posts.  Had the same scumread on mail-mi that everyone else had. Awaclus is reading as very Awaclusian. Robz is his normal D1 snore.

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #189 on: January 15, 2019, 02:35:58 am »

I'm always up for an ashersky plan.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #190 on: January 15, 2019, 04:56:03 am »

How do you know it is pro town to vote Galz?

There was a small wagon on Galz and I made it one vote larger. That's always pro town. Are you implying that I scumslipped that Galz is my scumbuddy?

How is that possible at this point?

Are you even reading the thread? There have been two examples of this already, by mail-mi and me, respectively.

I wanna make it clear I am NOT white knighting Mal, but scrutinizing Awaclus.

It is Day 1, there is literally no information than the information that you know about yourself.
There haven't been any flips, claims, or even moderately large wagons.

How is one supposed to prove their town-i-ness at this point?

Well, I suppose it would be difficult to do unless you are actually town. Vote: DatSwan

someone mentioned earlier in the game that "skum just wants to make it look like they are skum hunting for credit".

asking questions like these pretty much meet that criteria imo

No it doesn't, this is significantly more useful than what you are doing.

1) im implying that making a wagon one vote larger is not neccisarilly always pro town (especially if your meta as skum is to love the bus).

2) Reading just fine. I also do NOT think  that you, malmi, or anyone has done anything to come off as towny this far.

3) You didnít answer my question - instead you avoided it with a random omg is Vote. Another pro town thing tho Iím sure...

4) the last time i had this conversation with you you self hammered yourself for the town loss... so Iím just gonna drop this topic.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #191 on: January 15, 2019, 05:32:23 am »

vote: joth
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« Reply #192 on: January 15, 2019, 06:12:52 am »

1) im implying that making a wagon one vote larger is not neccisarilly always pro town (especially if your meta as skum is to love the bus).

2) Reading just fine. I also do NOT think  that you, malmi, or anyone has done anything to come off as towny this far.

3) You didnít answer my question - instead you avoided it with a random omg is Vote. Another pro town thing tho Iím sure...

4) the last time i had this conversation with you you self hammered yourself for the town loss... so Iím just gonna drop this topic.

1) Making a wagon one vote larger is necessarily always pro town, unless the vote leads to a town lynch.

2) It doesn't matter what you think, it matters what mail-mi thinks about himself and what I think about myself.

3) I didn't answer your question because that was the second time you asked the exact same question and I already answered it in item 2.

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #193 on: January 15, 2019, 07:23:29 am »

1) im implying that making a wagon one vote larger is not neccisarilly always pro town (especially if your meta as skum is to love the bus).

2) Reading just fine. I also do NOT think  that you, malmi, or anyone has done anything to come off as towny this far.

3) You didnít answer my question - instead you avoided it with a random omg is Vote. Another pro town thing tho Iím sure...

4) the last time i had this conversation with you you self hammered yourself for the town loss... so Iím just gonna drop this topic.

1) Making a wagon one vote larger is necessarily always pro town, unless the vote leads to a town lynch.

2) It doesn't matter what you think, it matters what mail-mi thinks about himself and what I think about myself.

3) I didn't answer your question because that was the second time you asked the exact same question and I already answered it in item 2.

4) That self-hammer was way better than having town give away valuable information before ultimately lynching me anyway.

1) how do you know that wagon was not going to lead to a town lynch?

2) incorrect

3) fair enough

4) agree to to disagree.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #194 on: January 15, 2019, 07:26:24 am »

1) how do you know that wagon was not going to lead to a town lynch?

2) incorrect

1) Because we're not even close to the deadline yet.
2) No, it's correct.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #195 on: January 15, 2019, 08:39:54 am »

2) It doesn't matter what you think, it matters what mail-mi thinks about himself and what I think about myself.

I like this line of thought. Especially in light of this:

Also I should clarify, when I said ďI agreeĒ I meant I agree that mail-mi is seeming townie. Not that I was being scummy! I of course was and am being extremely pro-town.

You can claim to be extremely town (well, you're either town or you aren't, so the extreme value there is pretty simple to determine), but calling yourself extremely pro-town at this point rings like a bad joke.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #196 on: January 15, 2019, 08:56:51 am »

2) It doesn't matter what you think, it matters what mail-mi thinks about himself and what I think about myself.

I like this line of thought. Especially in light of this:

Also I should clarify, when I said ďI agreeĒ I meant I agree that mail-mi is seeming townie. Not that I was being scummy! I of course was and am being extremely pro-town.

You can claim to be extremely town (well, you're either town or you aren't, so the extreme value there is pretty simple to determine), but calling yourself extremely pro-town at this point rings like a bad joke.

I agree with what hypercube says about Joth here. That post doesn't ring right

Also unvote hypercube is seeming townier to me. What vote count is Joth at?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #197 on: January 15, 2019, 08:57:03 am »

Nah, it was a good joke. Iím also very funny.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #198 on: January 15, 2019, 09:06:39 am »

Also I'm extremely busy today (rl day) so don't expect much from me
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #199 on: January 15, 2019, 11:07:15 am »

Vote Count 1.2

Robz888 (2): Galzria, jotheonah
mail-mi (1): SpaceAnemone
jotheonah (3): Robz888, hypercube, LaLight
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Awaclus (1): DatSwan
DatSwan (1): Awaclus

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #200 on: January 15, 2019, 11:59:50 am »

vote: joth
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #201 on: January 15, 2019, 12:02:08 pm »

Apologies all, for the not posting until now thing.  Crazy busy + sort of forgot about the game.

Caught up, not a lot of content for 8 pages of posts.  Had the same scumread on mail-mi that everyone else had. Awaclus is reading as very Awaclusian. Robz is his normal D1 snore.

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #202 on: January 15, 2019, 12:28:15 pm »

At the risk of sounding scummy given that she is my sister irl, I don't get the wagon on joth right now. He's being sarcastic and flippant, but that's just his style. All of his observations seem genuine to me.

Day one is hard, there's so little concrete to go on. I'm eager to hear ashersky's secret plan to fight inflation (have we done West Wing Mafia yet? that could be fun.)

Anyway, this little fight between DatSwan and Awaclus doesn't look great for either of them, but DatSwan comes out of it looking a little more jumpy and defensive, which is often how I feel early on as scum, so for now, vote: DatSwan
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #203 on: January 15, 2019, 12:39:18 pm »

The Datswan/Awaclus thing is totally null as far as town/scum reads for either of them.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #204 on: January 15, 2019, 12:44:38 pm »

Hypercube is a much better D1 lynch here. Because amazing D1 case is why. That I can detail later. Like after dinner.

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« Reply #205 on: January 15, 2019, 12:45:18 pm »

I look forward to hearing your case after dinner. Because I admit I am grasping at straws right now.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #206 on: January 15, 2019, 12:55:32 pm »

The Datswan/Awaclus thing is totally null as far as town/scum reads for either of them.

It feels a bit manufactured I think. I am certain that Awaclus would go around asking people to argue why they're town regardless of his alignment. Maybe he would select who he asks that question to differently, but that's a different matter. Swan doesn't agree that this is productive, and uses that as an excuse to scumread Awaclus and start a big argument that I assume most people aren't paying too much attention to. I'm not sure that it means something, but I'm not sure that it means nothing either.

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« Reply #207 on: January 15, 2019, 12:59:09 pm »

unvote

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« Reply #208 on: January 15, 2019, 01:01:07 pm »

Hypercube is a much better D1 lynch here. Because amazing D1 case is why. That I can detail later. Like after dinner.

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« Reply #209 on: January 15, 2019, 02:09:00 pm »

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #210 on: January 15, 2019, 05:20:04 pm »

The thing that strikes me about play so far is that there are so many unvotes. I feel like that's not normal. Why not just move your vote around if you decide you no longer like who you're voting for?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #211 on: January 15, 2019, 05:21:13 pm »

At the risk of sounding scummy given that she is my sister irl, I don't get the wagon on joth right now. He's being sarcastic and flippant, but that's just his style. All of his observations seem genuine to me.

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #212 on: January 15, 2019, 05:23:46 pm »

I'm always up for an ashersky plan.

Does that mean you feel they're always pro-town? I feel like some of the ones I've observed have been of pretty questionable town utility.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #213 on: January 15, 2019, 05:26:26 pm »

(Also just moved to Germany so I am now forum time+6)

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« Reply #214 on: January 15, 2019, 05:39:51 pm »

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #215 on: January 15, 2019, 05:56:47 pm »

Hi friends-

Apologies for the absence, first day of classes and all. I'm caught up now, and continue to be rather flummoxed. The Awa/Swan conversation is funny to me, but rather null in terms of alignment. The Joth wagon doesn't seem to be based on much, but maybe that's enough... I have zero firm sense of anything, but we're only about midway through the day so maybe that's okay.

Other than the folks who have been absent thus far, the least explanation of thinking seems to be e. So, we will all wait for after dinner and for folks to get caught up, or maybe for a Ashersky plan, or some more to think about than our current conversations, because like Glooble I feel like there is nothing real going on here that's illuminating.  Maybe we need new and improved Day 1 Robz to new and improve this day!

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #216 on: January 15, 2019, 06:05:45 pm »

Does that mean you feel they're always pro-town? I feel like some of the ones I've observed have been of pretty questionable town utility.

Well, I don't think they're always pro-town, but they're pro-town pretty often especially because ashersky tries to make them that way even when he's scum.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #217 on: January 15, 2019, 06:10:35 pm »

The thing that strikes me about play so far is that there are so many unvotes. I feel like that's not normal. Why not just move your vote around if you decide you no longer like who you're voting for?

I vote for people if they seem scummy, and then if they seem less scummy but thereís no one else who seems especially scummy I just unvote. Thatís mostly only true on Day 1 though.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #218 on: January 15, 2019, 10:06:31 pm »

At the risk of sounding scummy given that she is my sister irl, I don't get the wagon on joth right now. He's being sarcastic and flippant, but that's just his style. All of his observations seem genuine to me.

Day one is hard, there's so little concrete to go on. I'm eager to hear ashersky's secret plan to fight inflation (have we done West Wing Mafia yet? that could be fun.)

Anyway, this little fight between DatSwan and Awaclus doesn't look great for either of them, but DatSwan comes out of it looking a little more jumpy and defensive, which is often how I feel early on as scum, so for now, vote: DatSwan

I was the one pointing fingers in this - how does that come off as defensicve?
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« Reply #219 on: January 15, 2019, 10:09:06 pm »

The thing that strikes me about play so far is that there are so many unvotes. I feel like that's not normal.

I voted for Robz because I really didn't like his vote on me, honestly. Not like in an OMGUS way, but in a "there's no way Robz actually believes that scum!me would vote mail-mi the way I did, he knows me too well." But then I reread and thought about and I realized it was kind of silly. Because I've been away so long. And Robz is striking me as generally towny here. So I unvoted.

Why not just move your vote around if you decide you no longer like who you're voting for?

...Because I don't have any scumreads?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #220 on: January 16, 2019, 12:57:15 am »

I am going the crew of just re read again and really struggling to find jumping off points...

Love to hear the E! case or the Ashes plan plzzz
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #221 on: January 16, 2019, 03:07:29 am »

The hypercube case:

1) he had the whole "I read the setup and noticed a hated/loved mechanic of some sort likely exists" post

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #222 on: January 16, 2019, 05:03:31 am »

The hypercube case:

1) he had the whole "I read the setup and noticed a hated/loved mechanic of some sort likely exists" post

2) then has the "if I were scum I wouldn't have pointed it out" post

3) the other wagons are all bad

And there you have it. Best of the best for D1 cases

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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #223 on: January 16, 2019, 05:27:54 am »

So, we will all wait for after dinner and for folks to get caught up, or maybe for a Ashersky plan

So.. is it pro-town just to wait for Ash's plan? Are you even aware of the kinds of things these Ashersky-plans of his tend to involve?

Characteristic one: he announces to the thread that he has a plan, but then waits ages to post it, building expectation. In games like this, it has a very real risk of stalling all the genuine worthwhile conversation in the thread because too many people buy into the cult of the Ashersky plan and don't want to put their own effort in when they hope someone else is going to come along and do it for them.

I think it's not very pro-town of him to do the hint-and-run routine in the first place, but it's certainly not pro-town for the rest of us to let multiple comments along the lines of "let's wait for Ashersky's plan" go by and not have at least a little rant about it ;-)

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« Reply #224 on: January 16, 2019, 05:31:38 am »

Ashersky explicitly stated he wouldn't reveal his plan until very late D1.

1) there is absolutely no reason to wait for a plan
2) people who state they are waiting for said plan are attempting to be artificially townie, and thus are scummy
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #225 on: January 16, 2019, 05:33:14 am »

re you even aware of the kinds of things these Ashersky-plans of his tend to involve?

They tend to involve scum losing, even if he himself is scum. (See villager mafia)
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #226 on: January 16, 2019, 05:37:16 am »

2) people who state they are waiting for said plan are attempting to be artificially townie, and thus are scummy

I can buy into this. vote: Glooble
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #227 on: January 16, 2019, 06:36:04 am »

2) people who state they are waiting for said plan are attempting to be artificially townie, and thus are scummy

I can buy into this. vote: Glooble

All I said was ďIím eager to hear this planĒ. Nothing about waiting for it. I then proceeded to make an unrelated vote in the same post.
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« Reply #228 on: January 16, 2019, 06:37:54 am »

(Also just moved to Germany so I am now forum time+6)

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Moved as in for the next 3 years. So somewhat long term
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« Reply #229 on: January 16, 2019, 06:41:55 am »

2) people who state they are waiting for said plan are attempting to be artificially townie, and thus are scummy

I can buy into this. vote: Glooble

All I said was ďIím eager to hear this planĒ. Nothing about waiting for it. I then proceeded to make an unrelated vote in the same post.

Yeah, add hypercube's non sequitur vote on Glooble to the reasons they are scum
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #230 on: January 16, 2019, 06:47:02 am »

Ashersky explicitly stated he wouldn't reveal his plan until very late D1.

1) there is absolutely no reason to wait for a plan
2) people who state they are waiting for said plan are attempting to be artificially townie, and thus are scummy

Agreed.

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« Reply #231 on: January 16, 2019, 06:47:52 am »

Err, forgot the space. vote: ashersky
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #232 on: January 16, 2019, 06:48:30 am »

2) people who state they are waiting for said plan are attempting to be artificially townie, and thus are scummy

I can buy into this. vote: Glooble

All I said was ďIím eager to hear this planĒ. Nothing about waiting for it. I then proceeded to make an unrelated vote in the same post.

You didn't seem very convinced in your Swan vote, surrounding it with equivocation about how there's too little to go on etc.. I don't think scum would actually just sit there and refuse to do anything until Ash comes up with a plan. I've been scumreading Glooble for a little while now; she seems to be playing a very conservative game, being around without actually moving things along too much.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #233 on: January 16, 2019, 06:54:58 am »

I like vote: Glooble
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #234 on: January 16, 2019, 07:33:16 am »

So, we will all wait for after dinner and for folks to get caught up, or maybe for a Ashersky plan

So.. is it pro-town just to wait for Ash's plan? Are you even aware of the kinds of things these Ashersky-plans of his tend to involve?

Characteristic one: he announces to the thread that he has a plan, but then waits ages to post it, building expectation. In games like this, it has a very real risk of stalling all the genuine worthwhile conversation in the thread because too many people buy into the cult of the Ashersky plan and don't want to put their own effort in when they hope someone else is going to come along and do it for them.

I think it's not very pro-town of him to do the hint-and-run routine in the first place, but it's certainly not pro-town for the rest of us to let multiple comments along the lines of "let's wait for Ashersky's plan" go by and not have at least a little rant about it ;-)

(I was going to go into more characteristics of the plans, but I'm at work, and now my breakfast-coffee is over, I need to get back to analysis of real data!)

Ah, thanks for the background. I wasn't arguing that we wait for the plan...especially since I can't see how there is any utility in a "plan" at this point with all the unknowns and so few knowns. I was really more trying to summarize the line of comments in the thread that were about catching up, checking in, reading, and getting back to it after dinner-- which I found amusing because it reminded me of being a kid and getting to play outside until the streetlights came on.

I appreciate that mail-mi, hyper, and glooble are so active. Of them, vote: glooble seems the most productive current course of action.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #235 on: January 16, 2019, 07:38:30 am »

This wagon is me pretty obviously being pushed by hypercube to derail the wagon on her.

vote: hypercube

I was already leaning that direction anyway and now itís looking like classic misdirection.

Still suspicious of ashersky though.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #236 on: January 16, 2019, 07:49:17 am »

This wagon is me pretty obviously being pushed by hypercube to derail the wagon on her.

vote: hypercube

I was already leaning that direction anyway and now itís looking like classic misdirection.

Still suspicious of ashersky though.

At the time I voted for you, E was the only person voting for me; there's nothing to derail there. It seems like you might be a bit afraid of people voting for you though!
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« Reply #237 on: January 16, 2019, 07:52:52 am »

This wagon is me pretty obviously being pushed by hypercube to derail the wagon on her.

vote: hypercube

I was already leaning that direction anyway and now itís looking like classic misdirection.

Still suspicious of ashersky though.

How are you suspicious of ashersky? Why?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #238 on: January 16, 2019, 08:25:33 am »

Ashersky explicitly stated he wouldn't reveal his plan until very late D1.

1) there is absolutely no reason to wait for a plan
2) people who state they are waiting for said plan are attempting to be artificially townie, and thus are scummy

Agreed.

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« Reply #239 on: January 16, 2019, 08:26:16 am »

Because of eís point. Saying you have a plan but you wonít reveal it u til the end of the day seems like a good way to slow down scumhunting.

I am afraid of people voting for me for very pro-town reasons which will become clear if the wagon on me reaches that point.
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« Reply #240 on: January 16, 2019, 08:26:29 am »

This wagon is me pretty obviously being pushed by hypercube to derail the wagon on her.

vote: hypercube

I was already leaning that direction anyway and now itís looking like classic misdirection.

Still suspicious of ashersky though.

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Town points for Glooble
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« Reply #241 on: January 16, 2019, 08:34:16 am »

I am afraid of people voting for me for very pro-town reasons which will become clear if the wagon on me reaches that point.

There's some lexical ambiguity here. Are you saying you are afraid for reasons which will become clear or people are voting for you for reasons that will become clear?
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« Reply #242 on: January 16, 2019, 08:34:50 am »

The former.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #243 on: January 16, 2019, 08:37:07 am »

Ashersky explicitly stated he wouldn't reveal his plan until very late D1.

1) there is absolutely no reason to wait for a plan
2) people who state they are waiting for said plan are attempting to be artificially townie, and thus are scummy

This is correct. 2.7ís post before this one was scummy, but this is normal 2.7.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #244 on: January 16, 2019, 08:39:27 am »

I am afraid of people voting for me for very pro-town reasons which will become clear if the wagon on me reaches that point.

There's some lexical ambiguity here. Are you saying you are afraid for reasons which will become clear or people are voting for you for reasons that will become clear?

Itís also a very nothing statement, especially in RMM. I mean, voting for a town PR is bad, so we can all say the same thing. Seems like an empty chaff discharge to me.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #245 on: January 16, 2019, 08:42:43 am »

The hypercube case:

1) he had the whole "I read the setup and noticed a hated/loved mechanic of some sort likely exists" post

2) then has the "if I were scum I wouldn't have pointed it out" post

3) the other wagons are all bad

And there you have it. Best of the best for D1 cases

I didnít like something here. Not sure what.

Contents-wise, point 2 could be a thing. Depends on how noobish said player is, if scum discussed N0, and if scum has a player that is affected.  Especially with the last possibility, pointing it out via voting rule gets you town points plus protects scum who would be affected.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #246 on: January 16, 2019, 08:45:27 am »

I am afraid of people voting for me for very pro-town reasons which will become clear if the wagon on me reaches that point.

There's some lexical ambiguity here. Are you saying you are afraid for reasons which will become clear or people are voting for you for reasons that will become clear?

Itís also a very nothing statement, especially in RMM. I mean, voting for a town PR is bad, so we can all say the same thing. Seems like an empty chaff discharge to me.

On that topic, we should talk about claims. I'm not sure it makes sense to autoclaim at R1 when everyone has a power role. I think maybe you should only claim if you think your role is exceptionally powerful? But it's also not really clear to me that the power level of roles is even knowable without more context. I certainly have no idea if mine is powerful or not.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #247 on: January 16, 2019, 08:47:52 am »

Also, for the record, hating on ashersky plans is just a hipster contrarianism thing to do. As Awaclus points out subconsciously, the efficacy of ashersky plans notwithstanding, the airing of, discussion of, and sometimes demolishing of ashersky plans is always pro-town. And generally they are pro-town regardless of my own alignment.

If you want to complain about ashersky plans, the correct way is to say it has zero bearing on my alignment so I deserve no town points for them. Unfortunately, I often do get scum points if I donít have one, so partly this is all your fault.

Separate to this, using waiting for the plan as an excuse to not otherwise engage is not an acceptable action.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #248 on: January 16, 2019, 08:49:23 am »

I am afraid of people voting for me for very pro-town reasons which will become clear if the wagon on me reaches that point.

There's some lexical ambiguity here. Are you saying you are afraid for reasons which will become clear or people are voting for you for reasons that will become clear?

Itís also a very nothing statement, especially in RMM. I mean, voting for a town PR is bad, so we can all say the same thing. Seems like an empty chaff discharge to me.

On that topic, we should talk about claims. I'm not sure it makes sense to autoclaim at R1 when everyone has a power role. I think maybe you should only claim if you think your role is exceptionally powerful? But it's also not really clear to me that the power level of roles is even knowable without more context. I certainly have no idea if mine is powerful or not.

Stock answer: Leave it up to individual players.

Better answer: generally the choice between being lynched and outing your power is an easy one to make.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #249 on: January 16, 2019, 08:52:23 am »

Ashersky: can you tell us why you can't reveal your plan until late day one without revealing your plan?
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #250 on: January 16, 2019, 08:53:38 am »

I wasn't really aware of the meta re:ashersky plans, having been out of the loop for several years. In a vacuum, teasing a plan seemed scummy. I see now that I was missing important context.
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #251 on: January 16, 2019, 09:03:04 am »

I like e's hypercube case, definitely willing to go back to her if that's what ends up happening. Still like my joth vote rn
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Re: RMM51: Imperial Radch Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #252 on: January 16, 2019, 09:38:45 am »