Topic: Zendo Questions 2 (Read 103681 times)

infangthief · « **Reply #450 on:** March 19, 2019, 02:27:48 am »

Time for all No
the random crap No
that gives us people No
a starting No
point No

A No
A A No
A A A No
AAA No

Well, that’s disheartening. Time to write a long one and see how that makes this game fare. No
And a shorty No
With numbers 1234567890 No
Andweirdnesswitheverythingelse No
I will achieve a yes, I promise. No

Promise broken. No
Did we ask anything yet? No
Doubt it. No
This is soooo hard... No
But; it's really fun. No
And that makes it the best thing ever! No

Guess: Always no.
Incorrect. Counterexample:
Don't you think Elliptic Curve Cryptography's cool cool? Yes

A A A A? No

D Y T E C C C C No
Cranberry cranberry cranberry cranberry bran berry No

Don't you think Elliptic Curve No
Curve Cryptography's cool cool? No

Uncleeurope · « **Reply #451 on:** March 19, 2019, 05:29:28 am »

Elliptic curve

hhelibebcnofnena · « **Reply #452 on:** March 19, 2019, 09:25:32 am »

Just playing around with capitalization here...

D y t E C C c c?
Don't You Think Elliptic Curve Cryptography's Cool Cool?
don't you think elliptic curve cryptography's cool cool?
don't You Think elliptic curve cryptography's Cool Cool?

infangthief · « **Reply #453 on:** March 19, 2019, 09:32:56 am »

Elliptic curve No

Just playing around with capitalization here... No

D y t E C C c c? No
Don't You Think Elliptic Curve Cryptography's Cool Cool? Yes
don't you think elliptic curve cryptography's cool cool? No
don't You Think elliptic curve cryptography's Cool Cool? No

Uncleeurope · « **Reply #454 on:** March 19, 2019, 01:54:54 pm »

Don’t you think Caps Are Better than not?

Don't you Think elliptic Curve cryptography's Cool cool?

infangthief · « **Reply #455 on:** March 19, 2019, 05:57:25 pm »

Don’t you think Caps Are Better than not? No
Don't you Think elliptic Curve cryptography's Cool cool? No

hhelibebcnofnena · « **Reply #456 on:** March 19, 2019, 10:16:25 pm »

So it cares about capitalization
And also about the actual words
This is an interesting rule
But hard to get a yes out of
Let's see how sensitive it is
And to what

Don yo thin Ellipti Curv Cryptography coo coo?
Do y thi Ellipt Cur Cryptograph co co?
Don't Elliptic Curve Cryptography's?
Don Ellipti Curv Cryptography
Do Ellipt Cur Cryptograph?

scott_pilgrim · « **Reply #457 on:** March 19, 2019, 10:26:51 pm »

Don't Cryptography's?
DON'T YOU THINK ELLIPTIC CURVE CRYPTOGRAPHY'S COOL COOL?

infangthief · « **Reply #458 on:** March 20, 2019, 05:04:03 am »

So it cares about capitalization No
And also about the actual words No
This is an interesting rule No
But hard to get a yes out of No
Let's see how sensitive it is No
And to what No

Don yo thin Ellipti Curv Cryptography coo coo? No
Do y thi Ellipt Cur Cryptograph co co? No
Don't Elliptic Curve Cryptography's? Yes
Don Ellipti Curv Cryptography No
Do Ellipt Cur Cryptograph? No

Don't Cryptography's? No
DON'T YOU THINK ELLIPTIC CURVE CRYPTOGRAPHY'S COOL COOL? No

MiX · « **Reply #459 on:** March 20, 2019, 05:05:45 am »

Elliptic Cryptography's?
Curve Cryptography's?
Elliptic Curve?
Elliptic Curve Cryptography?

infangthief · « **Reply #460 on:** March 20, 2019, 05:14:07 am »

Elliptic Cryptography's? No
Curve Cryptography's? No
Elliptic Curve? No
Elliptic Curve Cryptography? Yes

Uncleeurope · « **Reply #461 on:** March 20, 2019, 08:05:38 am »

Elliptic curve Cryptography?
elliptic Curve Cryptography?
Elliptic Curve cryptography?
Elliptic CUrve Cryptography?
Elliptic cUrve Cryptography?
elliptic Curve cryptography?

infangthief · « **Reply #462 on:** March 20, 2019, 08:09:21 am »

Elliptic curve Cryptography? No
elliptic Curve Cryptography? No
Elliptic Curve cryptography? No
Elliptic CUrve Cryptography? No
Elliptic cUrve Cryptography? No
elliptic Curve cryptography? No

hhelibebcnofnena · « **Reply #463 on:** March 20, 2019, 03:55:15 pm »

Elliptic Curve Cryptography i think i might be able to put anything lowercase in here but im not sure about that lets find out?
and Elliptic maybe Curve in between Cryptography words?
Elliptic maybe the Curve first word has to be Cryptography a capital?
Dont you think Elliptic Curve Cryptographys cool cool?
D'o'n't y'o'u t'h'i'n'k E'l'l'i'p't'i'c C'u'r'v'e C'r'y'p't'o'g'r'a'p'h'y's c'o'o'l c'o'o'l?
E'l'l'i'p't'i'c C'u'r'v'e C'r'y'p't'o'g'r'a'p'h'y?
Elliptic does punctuation Curve make a difference Cryptography?

infangthief · « **Reply #464 on:** March 20, 2019, 06:22:23 pm »

Elliptic Curve Cryptography i think i might be able to put anything lowercase in here but im not sure about that lets find out? Yes
and Elliptic maybe Curve in between Cryptography words? No
Elliptic maybe the Curve first word has to be Cryptography a capital? No
Dont you think Elliptic Curve Cryptographys cool cool? Yes
D'o'n't y'o'u t'h'i'n'k E'l'l'i'p't'i'c C'u'r'v'e C'r'y'p't'o'g'r'a'p'h'y's c'o'o'l c'o'o'l? No
E'l'l'i'p't'i'c C'u'r'v'e C'r'y'p't'o'g'r'a'p'h'y? No
Elliptic does punctuation Curve make a difference Cryptography? No

hhelibebcnofnena · « **Reply #465 on:** March 20, 2019, 09:20:14 pm »

Just like the previous guess, this is only to rule something out:

Guess: If it contains the string "Elliptic Curve Cryptography", it is yes, otherwise no.

infangthief · « **Reply #466 on:** March 21, 2019, 04:05:09 am »

Quote from: hhelibebcnofnena on March 20, 2019, 09:20:14 pm

Just like the previous guess, this is only to rule something out:

Guess: If it contains the string "Elliptic Curve Cryptography", it is yes, otherwise no.

Correct. Your turn.

silverspawn · « **Reply #467 on:** March 21, 2019, 04:09:32 am »

Aren't these eliptic curvues the basis for some kind of abelian group which has better properties than Z_p with only have of its elements? That was mentioned in the class on cryptography I took the past semester but it didn't go into detail.

silverspawn · « **Reply #468 on:** March 21, 2019, 04:09:56 am »

*~~have~~ -> half

infangthief · « **Reply #469 on:** March 21, 2019, 04:34:16 am »

Quote from: silverspawn on March 21, 2019, 04:09:32 am

Aren't these eliptic curvues the basis for some kind of abelian group which has better properties than Z_p with only have of its elements? That was mentioned in the class on cryptography I took the past semester but it didn't go into detail.

That sounds about right. Though I think the number of elements tends to be close to p, not half of p. The number of x-coordinates is close to half of p, but each valid x-coordinate occurs in two points of the curve.
I think it is cool that a seemingly innocuous sounding concept like 'scalar multiplication' of points on the curve leads to a cryptographically secure group. And you can visualise it all nicely on a graph (which doesn't look anything like an ellipse by the way). And you can casually throw in a 'point at infinity' which makes it all work. And... well after this rule I think everyone should go and find out about elliptic curve cryptography.

silverspawn · « **Reply #470 on:** March 21, 2019, 07:10:53 am »

That was supposed to read "better than [Z_p with only half of its elements]". I think you had to take a subgroup of Z_p that was always exactly half the size because otherwise one bit of information was leaking... right?

silverspawn · « **Reply #471 on:** March 21, 2019, 07:11:30 am »

And even then it was somehow supposed to be less awesome than the eliptic curve thing though our prof didn't tell us why

hhelibebcnofnena · « **Reply #472 on:** March 21, 2019, 09:02:05 am »

Quote from: infangthief on March 21, 2019, 04:05:09 am

Quote from: hhelibebcnofnena on March 20, 2019, 09:20:14 pm
Just like the previous guess, this is only to rule something out:

Guess: If it contains the string "Elliptic Curve Cryptography", it is yes, otherwise no.
Correct. Your turn.

Wait, actually?
I didn't think it was actually the rule; I was just trying to get some variation so I could get a better lead.
But I'll take it.

I have a rule.

MiX · « **Reply #473 on:** March 21, 2019, 09:44:34 am »

Well that rule was uh...
Something.
I hope I helped!
Not really too focused on this
Got other things on my mind (wink).
Is winking allowed?
Well, too late now!
Or is it...
No?
Hmm

hhelibebcnofnena · « **Reply #474 on:** March 21, 2019, 09:54:27 am »

Well that rule was uh... Yes
Something. No
I hope I helped! Yes
Not really too focused on this Yes
Got other things on my mind (wink). Yes
Is winking allowed? Yes
Well, too late now! Yes
Or is it... Yes
No? Yes
Hmm No

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