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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #300 on: March 12, 2019, 05:52:33 am »

Another page-top, time for the full list.
List of all questions which have even numbers of words. "Odd number of words => yes" has been previously established.

Let a brother play with his punctuation, man. No
It must be intriguing and exciting, or else...? No

Sweeet, thanks! Yes
A lot of things need to be learned: like which questions pass? Yes
________.....? No
? No
??? No
! No

let there be light.? Yes

? No
test test? Yes
test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test test test? Yes

let there ? be light Yes
in heaven to ? divide Yes
? the day ? from the Yes
it be ? for ???!! signs!!? for s!easons Yes

of this? Yes
because of? No
...? No
Maybe because of this? No
Maybe...because of? Yes

Does it have to do with the whole sentence or just part of it? No
Will this help us find out? Yes

this of because Maybe? No
This of because maybe? No
Of because maybe this? No
of because? No

A Lot Of very --- questions are? Yes
But; hmm? Yes

of because? No
of of because because? No
maybe because? Yes
of maybe? No
of maybe maybe because? Yes

m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s? Yes
Maybe because of this hello there my name is insert name here? Yes

because because of of? No
because because because of of of? No
of of? Yes
because because? Yes
because because because because of of of of? No

of of? Yes
because of of of? Yes

more speculatively No
maybe these will all No
resolve differently? Yes

then again maybe not No
still let some ambiguity inside Neapolitans No
when words fail let randomness win! Yes

now finally Yes
some actual Yes
no things Yes
Zen Micro! Yes
seven never laughs cold Yes

maybe because? Yes
s o m e t h i n g s o m e t h i n g? Yes
m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s ? Yes
maybe tends to miss. No
agdjqry of? No

Does that mean I need to count how many letters are in each question before asking? Yes
maybedoes ntwork? No

It's the other way around, wow.. Yes
And it's words not letters I feel stupid. No
Maybe...because of...this...? Yes
abcef ouse? No
______________.... is one word, right? Or is it zero? No
Hmmmmm... I ran out of things to do. No
I need more answers. Yes

Well, before things did "Yes", now they do "No". Awkward. No
maybe o? Yes
ayb o? Yes
may o? Yes
may f? Yes
y f? Yes
letters letters? Yes
yof yof? Yes
things; things;? Yes
abc, abc,? Yes
Even: Even:? Yes
A lot of things need to be which: like learned questions pass? Yes
like learned questions pass? No
like which questions pass? No
A lot of things need to be which? No
A lot of things? No
need to be learned? Yes
lot of? No
A things? No
to learned? No
questions pass? No

because because of of No
because because of of?? No
because because because of of of No
because because because of of of?? No
of of Yes
of of?? Yes
because because Yes
because because?? Yes
because because because because of of of of No
because because because because of of of of?? No

repetition repetition Yes
of of Yes
words words Yes
to to Yes
verify verfiy Yes
suspicions suspicions Yes

for for Yes
for form No
for fort No
for fork No
for forks Yes
for forms Yes
for forming Yes
for forking Yes
fort for No
fort fork Yes
fort form Yes
fort forms No
forming forming Yes
forming formed No
forming forms Yes

one four three sevens hundred thousand? No
to one four three sevens hundred? No
to one four three? No
three sevens four hundred? No
to three sevens hundred? No
to four sevens thousand? Yes
three sevens to one? Yes
three three hundred thousand? Yes
four four hundred sevens? Yes
to to one three? No
to one one four? Yes
to to three four? Yes

333 4444 55555 666666 7777777 88888888? No
22 333 4444 55555 666666 7777777? No
22 333 4444 55555? No
5555 666666 4444 7777777? No
22 55555 666666 7777777? No
22 4444 666666 88888888? No
55555 666666 22 33? No
55555 55555 7777777 88888888? No
4444 4444 7777777 666666? No
22 22 333 4444? No
22 333 333 4444? No
22 22 55555 4444? No

Yeah, I know... sorry? Yes

sssss ddddd yyyyyyy hhhhhhhh? Yes
ffff oooo ppppppp tttttt? Yes
ll ww mmm aaaaa? No
nn qqq eee rrrr? Yes
zz xx ccccc vvvv? Yes

I need more answers Yes
I need more answers. Yes

22 22 No
more more more more Yes
repetition repetition repetition repetition Yes
because because because because Yes
why not why not Yes
just checking just checking Yes
test 1 2 3 test 1 2 3 Yes

three sevens to one Yes
three sevens four hundred No

(just to verify again these can't be right!) No

Ok so Yes
here have Yes
many question Yes
which I Yes
think ought Yes
to come Yes
out yes Yes

and here No
questions that No
do not No
I hope No

I have No
the same No
idea, but No
I think Yes
I am No
wrong, however Yes
I forgot No
what my Yes
second idea Yes
was. So No
now I'm No
sad. I Yes
can't end No
these with No
an even Yes
amount of Yes

Put what in spoilers? No

rather, the answer to that if infang answers. Yes

I think? Yes
I might know that? Yes
But maybe I wrong? Yes
Am Me genius am? Yes
I doubt it lots? Yes

Go ahead No
Have fun with us No
You're a smart guy Yes
You can help, right? No

Double checking that woulda been nice? Yes

I may need to double check something myself? No

I’m closer Yes
Than I would have Yes
Thought I Yes
Woulda imagined Yes

This incorrect No

Does adjacency matter a single mite? Yes

I think I’m on the verge of making a guess. No

I just need a No
Few things clarified beforehand No

I think Im on the verge of making a guess No

I a just need No
Few clarified things beforehand No

Same clarity makes no difference after this point Yes

I’m sleepy so I will nappy nap now, Hopefully this will wait for me. No

Ok so Yes
Ok so Ok so Yes
Ok so ok so Yes

lalala lalala lalala lalala! Yes
lalalala lalalala lalalala lalala! Yes
lala lala lala lala lala lala! Yes
lalal lalal lalal lalal! Yes
lalalalal lalalalal lalalalal lalalalal! Yes
lalalalalalal lalalalalalal lalalalalalal lalalalalalal! Yes

I think Yes
I know half of what it is easily Yes
Because I can predict Yes

What is a yes No

But first Yes

Testing testing Yes
Testings testings Yes
Testings testing No
Testing testing testings testing Yes
Testing testings testing testings No
Testing testing testings testings No

Guess: if it's even, the number of letters (including question mark) must not be prime
Incorrect Counterexample:
Is an infangthief dangerous? No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #301 on: March 12, 2019, 06:26:48 am »

Guess: if the median is an interger.

I can specify it but...it's this and you know it
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #302 on: March 12, 2019, 06:30:44 am »

Let's specify...first you order the words of a question (words have letters, that's all you're counting) by size, say, shortest first. Then you go to the middle 2, add their letters and divide by 2. If said number is an integer (or if the original sum is even) it passes. Thus all odd word questions pass, since you add a word to itself.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #303 on: March 12, 2019, 06:36:01 am »

Guess: if the median is an interger.
Correct! We have a winner. Median number of letters per word exists and is an integer.

Your turn :)
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #304 on: March 12, 2019, 06:39:41 am »

Having played Zendo before with this rule helped   :P

Thanks!
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #305 on: March 12, 2019, 07:20:46 am »

I have a rule
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #306 on: March 12, 2019, 09:01:30 am »

Has your rule got anything to do with leopards?
Their spots?
Their tails?
The things they eat?
The habitats in which they live?
Does it make any difference if we're referring here to leopards which live in Africa or Asia?
What about snow leopards?
Are there more similarities between leopards and snow leopards than between two arbitrarily chosen species of the Panthera genus?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #307 on: March 12, 2019, 09:02:04 am »

Is it a rule?
Rule?
A?
AA?
ABC?
123?
bla bla bla bla?
Those are some short words but maybe long words will work better because sometimes that happens and let's see if it's the case?
Or maybe this long word will work but it also could be a little difficult to parse because sometimes long words are like that and if so sorry?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #308 on: March 12, 2019, 09:26:39 am »

Has your rule got anything to do with leopards? Yes
Their spots? No
Their tails? No
The things they eat? Yes
The habitats in which they live? No
Does it make any difference if we're referring here to leopards which live in Africa or Asia? No
What about snow leopards? Yes
Are there more similarities between leopards and snow leopards than between two arbitrarily chosen species of the Panthera genus? No
Is it a rule? Yes
Rule? Yes
A? Yes
AA? Yes
ABC? Yes
123? Yes
bla bla bla bla? Yes
Those are some short words but maybe long words will work better because sometimes that happens and let's see if it's the case? Yes
Or maybe this long word will work but it also could be a little difficult to parse because sometimes long words are like that and if so sorry? No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #309 on: March 12, 2019, 09:51:02 am »

Theirspots?
Theirtails?
Fromwhaticantellhowlongitisdoesntmakemuchofadifference?
Exceptmaybesinglewordsaremaybeconsistentlyyes?
Butwedonthaveenoughdataforthat?
Samplesizetoosmall?
Sorry if this is too hard to parse...
Well, mostly. I can't figure out the rules if I don't have data, so not really.
Yes, those were both questions. (and so is this.)
Maybe having other punctuation at the end does something, but maybe it doesn't!
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #310 on: March 12, 2019, 10:25:28 am »

Theirspots? Yes
Theirtails? Yes
Fromwhaticantellhowlongitisdoesntmakemuchofadifference? Yes
Exceptmaybesinglewordsaremaybeconsistentlyyes? Yes
Butwedonthaveenoughdataforthat? Yes
Samplesizetoosmall? Yes
Sorry if this is too hard to parse... No
Well, mostly. I can't figure out the rules if I don't have data, so not really. Yes
Yes, those were both questions. (and so is this.) Yes
Maybe having other punctuation at the end does something, but maybe it doesn't! Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #311 on: March 12, 2019, 11:18:05 am »

Maybe
Number of
Words has something
To do with it
Given that all questions with
One word seem to be yes.
a
a a
a a a
a a a a
a a a a a
a a a a a a
a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a a a a a a
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #312 on: March 12, 2019, 12:35:20 pm »

Guess: if the median is an interger.
Correct! We have a winner. Median number of letters per word exists and is an integer.

Your turn :)

I knew it was going to be something simple that was about the length somehow. I had figured out that odd numbered sentences are always true, and two-word sentences are true iff they have the same parity. But that rule just refused to generalize to more than 2 words!

I think it was a fine rule, though.

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #313 on: March 12, 2019, 12:51:09 pm »

Maybe Yes
Number of No
Words has something No
To do with it Yes
Given that all questions with Yes
One word seem to be yes. No
a Yes
a a No
a a a No
a a a a Yes
a a a a a No
a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a Yes
a a a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a a a a a No

I knew it was going to be something simple that was about the length somehow. I had figured out that odd numbered sentences are always true, and two-word sentences are true iff they have the same parity. But that rule just refused to generalize to more than 2 words! Yes

I think it was a fine rule, though. No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #314 on: March 12, 2019, 01:18:03 pm »

Guess: either the number of words, or the number of letters has to be a square number.

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #315 on: March 12, 2019, 01:22:08 pm »

Guess: either the number of words, or the number of letters has to be a square number.

You are an absolute god. Absolutely correct! Did you actually count the letters?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #316 on: March 12, 2019, 01:28:34 pm »

Thanks :-) I have an awesome program installed that replaces the default notepad. Among other things, it shows me column numbers. So all I had to do was copy it in there and delete the whitespaces.

The a a a a questions made it possible. 1 - 4 - 9 was instantly noticeable.

I have a rule.

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #317 on: March 12, 2019, 01:31:32 pm »

Using programs is obviously cheating
But then again, manually counting is worse
Am I supposed to make questions?
I wish I was master for at least one day
But now I can ask things!
Like, am I supposed to ask questions?
And if so, which?
These?
I sure hope so.
Does 1 exist?
What about 0?
Philosophy is very useless, am I right?
Thingsexistsometimes.
A n d s o m e d o n ' t
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #318 on: March 12, 2019, 01:35:23 pm »

Using programs is obviously cheating No
But then again, manually counting is worse No
Am I supposed to make questions? No
I wish I was master for at least one day No
But now I can ask things! No
Like, am I supposed to ask questions? No
And if so, which? No
These? Yes
I sure hope so. No
Does 1 exist? Yes
What about 0? No
Philosophy is very useless, am I right? No
Thingsexistsometimes. Yes

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« Reply #319 on: March 12, 2019, 01:35:48 pm »

A n d s o m e d o n ' t  No

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #320 on: March 12, 2019, 01:42:59 pm »

Hmmmmm
What?
Are you kidding me?
1
2
3
4
11
22
33
44
111
333
4444
55555
one
four
one one one one
four four four four
three three three
three three three three three
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« Reply #321 on: March 12, 2019, 01:53:57 pm »

Hmmmmm Yes
What? Yes
Are you kidding me? No
1 Yes
2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes
11 Yes
22 Yes
33 Yes
44 Yes
111 Yes
333 Yes
4444 Yes
55555 Yes
one Yes
four Yes
one one one one No
four four four four No
three three three No
three three three three three No

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« Reply #322 on: March 12, 2019, 04:28:19 pm »

Is it?
Can it?
Does it?
Would it?
Should it?
Might it?
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« Reply #323 on: March 12, 2019, 04:36:30 pm »

Yay, my questions helped last time!
I think I would have noticed the 1 - 4 - 9 square numbers thing too if I had gotten here in time.
I
sense
another
one
word
is
always
yes
thing
here.
Let's try what I did last time:
a
a a
a a a
a a a a
a a a a a
a a a a a a
a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a a a
a a a a a a a a a a a
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« Reply #324 on: March 12, 2019, 04:44:11 pm »

Using programs is obviously cheating No
But then again, manually counting is worse No
Am I supposed to make questions? No
I wish I was master for at least one day No
But now I can ask things! No
Like, am I supposed to ask questions? No
And if so, which? No
These? Yes
I sure hope so. No
Does 1 exist? Yes
What about 0? No
Philosophy is very useless, am I right? No
Thingsexistsometimes. Yes

Hmmmmm Yes
What? Yes
Are you kidding me? No
1 Yes
2 Yes
3 Yes
4 Yes
11 Yes
22 Yes
33 Yes
44 Yes
111 Yes
333 Yes
4444 Yes
55555 Yes
one Yes
four Yes
one one one one No
four four four four No
three three three No
three three three three three No

Is it? Yes
Can it? No
Does it? Yes
Would it? Yes
Should it? Yes
Might it? Yes

Yay, my questions helped last time! No
I think I would have noticed the 1 - 4 - 9 square numbers thing too if I had gotten here in time. No
I Yes
sense Yes
another Yes
one Yes
word Yes
is Yes
always Yes
yes Yes
thing Yes
here. Yes
Let's try what I did last time: No
a Yes
a a No
a a a No
a a a a No
a a a a a No
a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a  No
a a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a a No
a a a a a a a a a a a No
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