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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #275 on: March 10, 2019, 05:30:55 pm »

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to ask this or not, but can you tell us whether the even/odd thing is specified in the rule or a by-product of the rest of the rule? Also, I'm going to try working on this again. I had given up, but I think taking a few days break could have helped.
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« Reply #276 on: March 10, 2019, 05:35:14 pm »

rather, the answer to that if infang answers.

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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #277 on: March 11, 2019, 04:59:59 am »

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to ask this or not, but can you tell us whether the even/odd thing is specified in the rule or a by-product of the rest of the rule? Also, I'm going to try working on this again. I had given up, but I think taking a few days break could have helped.

"Odd number of words => yes" is a consequence of the rule, without being explicitly stated in the rule. I mean, obviously the rule can be stated in various ways, but the simplest form does not refer to odd/even number of words.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #278 on: March 11, 2019, 05:20:43 am »

22 22 No
more more more more Yes
repetition repetition repetition repetition Yes
because because because because Yes
why not why not Yes
just checking just checking Yes
test 1 2 3 test 1 2 3 Yes
test 1 2 3 Yes

three sevens to one Yes
three sevens four hundred No

(just to verify again these can't be right!) No

Ok so Yes
here have Yes
many question Yes
which I Yes
think ought Yes
to come Yes
out yes Yes

and here No
questions that No
do not No
I hope No

(put it in spoilers, I'm going to crack this without help) Yes

I have No
the same No
idea, but No
I think Yes
I am No
wrong, however Yes
I forgot No
what my Yes
second idea Yes
was. So No
now I'm No
sad. I Yes
can't end No
these with No
an even Yes
amount of Yes
words. Yes

Put what in spoilers? No

that Yes

rather, the answer to that if infang answers. Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #279 on: March 11, 2019, 05:21:57 am »

List of all questions which have even numbers of words. "Odd number of words => yes" has been previously established.

Let a brother play with his punctuation, man. No
It must be intriguing and exciting, or else...? No

Sweeet, thanks! Yes
A lot of things need to be learned: like which questions pass? Yes
________.....? No
? No
??? No
! No

let there be light.? Yes

? No
test test? Yes
test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test? Yes
test test test test test test test test? Yes

let there ? be light Yes
in heaven to ? divide Yes
? the day ? from the Yes
it be ? for ???!! signs!!? for s!easons Yes

of this? Yes
because of? No
...? No
Maybe because of this? No
Maybe...because of? Yes

Does it have to do with the whole sentence or just part of it? No
Will this help us find out? Yes

this of because Maybe? No
This of because maybe? No
Of because maybe this? No
of because? No

A Lot Of very --- questions are? Yes
But; hmm? Yes

of because? No
of of because because? No
maybe because? Yes
of maybe? No
of maybe maybe because? Yes

m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s? Yes
Maybe because of this hello there my name is insert name here? Yes

because because of of? No
because because because of of of? No
of of? Yes
because because? Yes
because because because because of of of of? No

of of? Yes
because of of of? Yes

more speculatively No
maybe these will all No
resolve differently? Yes

then again maybe not No
still let some ambiguity inside Neapolitans No
when words fail let randomness win! Yes

now finally Yes
some actual Yes
no things Yes
Zen Micro! Yes
seven never laughs cold Yes

maybe because? Yes
s o m e t h i n g s o m e t h i n g? Yes
m a y b e b e c a u s e o f t h i s ? Yes
maybe tends to miss. No
agdjqry of? No

Does that mean I need to count how many letters are in each question before asking? Yes
maybedoes ntwork? No

It's the other way around, wow.. Yes
And it's words not letters I feel stupid. No
Maybe...because of...this...? Yes
abcef ouse? No
______________.... is one word, right? Or is it zero? No
Hmmmmm... I ran out of things to do. No
I need more answers. Yes

Well, before things did "Yes", now they do "No". Awkward. No
maybe o? Yes
ayb o? Yes
may o? Yes
may f? Yes
y f? Yes
letters letters? Yes
yof yof? Yes
things; things;? Yes
abc, abc,? Yes
Even: Even:? Yes
A lot of things need to be which: like learned questions pass? Yes
like learned questions pass? No
like which questions pass? No
A lot of things need to be which? No
A lot of things? No
need to be learned? Yes
lot of? No
A things? No
to learned? No
questions pass? No

because because of of No
because because of of?? No
because because because of of of No
because because because of of of?? No
of of Yes
of of?? Yes
because because Yes
because because?? Yes
because because because because of of of of No
because because because because of of of of?? No

repetition repetition Yes
of of Yes
words words Yes
to to Yes
verify verfiy Yes
suspicions suspicions Yes

for for Yes
for form No
for fort No
for fork No
for forks Yes
for forms Yes
for forming Yes
for forking Yes
fort for No
fort fork Yes
fort form Yes
fort forms No
forming forming Yes
forming formed No
forming forms Yes

one four three sevens hundred thousand? No
to one four three sevens hundred? No
to one four three? No
three sevens four hundred? No
to three sevens hundred? No
to four sevens thousand? Yes
three sevens to one? Yes
three three hundred thousand? Yes
four four hundred sevens? Yes
to to one three? No
to one one four? Yes
to to three four? Yes

333 4444 55555 666666 7777777 88888888? No
22 333 4444 55555 666666 7777777? No
22 333 4444 55555? No
5555 666666 4444 7777777? No
22 55555 666666 7777777? No
22 4444 666666 88888888? No
55555 666666 22 33? No
55555 55555 7777777 88888888? No
4444 4444 7777777 666666? No
22 22 333 4444? No
22 333 333 4444? No
22 22 55555 4444? No

Yeah, I know... sorry? Yes

sssss ddddd yyyyyyy hhhhhhhh? Yes
ffff oooo ppppppp tttttt? Yes
ll ww mmm aaaaa? No
nn qqq eee rrrr? Yes
zz xx ccccc vvvv? Yes

I need more answers Yes
I need more answers. Yes

22 22 No
more more more more Yes
repetition repetition repetition repetition Yes
because because because because Yes
why not why not Yes
just checking just checking Yes
test 1 2 3 test 1 2 3 Yes

three sevens to one Yes
three sevens four hundred No

(just to verify again these can't be right!) No

Ok so Yes
here have Yes
many question Yes
which I Yes
think ought Yes
to come Yes
out yes Yes

and here No
questions that No
do not No
I hope No

I have No
the same No
idea, but No
I think Yes
I am No
wrong, however Yes
I forgot No
what my Yes
second idea Yes
was. So No
now I'm No
sad. I Yes
can't end No
these with No
an even Yes
amount of Yes

Put what in spoilers? No

rather, the answer to that if infang answers. Yes
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #280 on: March 11, 2019, 06:18:56 am »

I think?
I might know that?
But maybe I wrong?
Am Me genius am?
I doubt it lots?

Am I allowed to just pop in here like this or do I have to sign up or something.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #281 on: March 11, 2019, 06:27:50 am »

Am I allowed to just pop in here like this or do I have to sign up or something.

Go ahead
Have fun with us
You're a smart guy
You can help, right?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #282 on: March 11, 2019, 06:41:58 am »

I think? Yes
I might know that? Yes
But maybe I wrong? Yes
Am Me genius am? Yes
I doubt it lots? Yes

Am I allowed to just pop in here like this or do I have to sign up or something. Yes
And yes, you can pop in. Posting is signing up. If you become the oracle, please make sure you are familiar with the setup; there are some restrictions/advice on the type of rules allowed.

Go ahead No
Have fun with us No
You're a smart guy Yes
You can help, right? No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #283 on: March 11, 2019, 06:53:39 am »


Am I allowed to just pop in here like this or do I have to sign up or something. Yes


Double checking that woulda been nice?

I may need to double check something myself?

I知 closer
Than I would have
Thought I
Woulda imagined

This incorrect
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« Reply #284 on: March 11, 2019, 07:02:42 am »

Double checking that woulda been nice? Yes

I may need to double check something myself? No

I知 closer Yes
Than I would have Yes
Thought I Yes
Woulda imagined Yes

This incorrect No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #285 on: March 11, 2019, 07:06:31 am »

Does adjacency matter a single mite?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #286 on: March 11, 2019, 07:11:06 am »

I think I知 on the verge of making a guess.

I just need a
Few things clarified beforehand
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #287 on: March 11, 2019, 07:15:52 am »

Does adjacency matter a single mite? Yes

I think I知 on the verge of making a guess. No

I just need a No
Few things clarified beforehand No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #288 on: March 11, 2019, 07:27:37 am »

I think Im on the verge of making a guess
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« Reply #289 on: March 11, 2019, 07:30:26 am »

I think Im on the verge of making a guess No
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« Reply #290 on: March 11, 2019, 07:36:13 am »

I a just need
Few clarified things beforehand
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #291 on: March 11, 2019, 07:48:27 am »

Same clarity makes no difference after this point

I知 sleepy so I will nappy nap now, Hopefully this will wait for me.
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« Reply #292 on: March 11, 2019, 08:58:56 am »

I a just need No
Few clarified things beforehand No

Same clarity makes no difference after this point Yes

I知 sleepy so I will nappy nap now, Hopefully this will wait for me. No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #293 on: March 11, 2019, 04:02:47 pm »

Ok so
Ok so Ok so
Ok so ok so
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« Reply #294 on: March 11, 2019, 04:09:05 pm »

la la la la la la la la la la la la la!
lalala lalala lalala lalala!
lalalala lalalala lalalala lalala!
lala lala lala lala lala lala!
lalal lalal lalal lalal!
lalal lalal lalal lalal lalal!
lalalalal lalalalal lalalalal lalalalal!
lalalalalalal lalalalalalal lalalalalalal lalalalalalal!
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #295 on: March 11, 2019, 05:39:24 pm »

I think
I know half of what it is easily
Because I can predict

What is a yes
And what is a no

But first

Testing testing
Testings testings
Testings testing
Testing testing testings testing
Testing testings testing testings
Testing testing testings testings
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #296 on: March 11, 2019, 05:52:57 pm »

Guess: if it's even, the number of letters (including question mark) must not be prime
This could be completely wrong, but it worked for a bunch of them.
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #297 on: March 11, 2019, 09:39:26 pm »

I understand, and it's hard being the person with the rule when it all goes quiet. Like, my last rule had a gap of about a month with no questions. I knew it wasn't too hard, but had I just made it too boring for people to want to play? Forum silence is hard. Really glad when you turned up and solved it!
I realise that the rules in the OP say 72/96 hours and the game's over. Maybe we should be ready to enforce that. But probably with a 'prod' first, so that folk can get back on to it if they want to, like in this case.

I think this is a really important point that's sort of hard to understand if you haven't been the rule master before. It's easy to think of the master as just being a black box that gives you the information you request whenever you feel like it, but my experience has been that I spend the whole time wondering if I've made the rule too easy, too hard, too boring, etc. I think the reality is that long silences usually have nothing to do with the rule itself, they just sort of happen at random if everyone gets busy at the same time and then forgets about the thread, but I think that also makes it stressful for the master.

So maybe the solution is to just encourage anyone passing by who notices that the thread has been dead for a while to bump it, even if they have no "good" questions to ask?
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #298 on: March 12, 2019, 05:37:30 am »

Ok so Yes
Ok so Ok so Yes
Ok so ok so Yes

la la la la la la la la la la la la la! Yes
lalala lalala lalala lalala! Yes
lalalala lalalala lalalala lalala! Yes
lala lala lala lala lala lala! Yes
lalal lalal lalal lalal! Yes
lalal lalal lalal lalal lalal! Yes
lalalalal lalalalal lalalalal lalalalal! Yes
lalalalalalal lalalalalalal lalalalalalal lalalalalalal! Yes

I think Yes
I know half of what it is easily Yes
Because I can predict Yes

What is a yes No
And what is a no Yes

But first Yes

Testing testing Yes
Testings testings Yes
Testings testing No
Testing testing testings testing Yes
Testing testings testing testings No
Testing testing testings testings No
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Re: Zendo Questions 2
« Reply #299 on: March 12, 2019, 05:43:07 am »

Guess: if it's even, the number of letters (including question mark) must not be prime
This could be completely wrong, but it worked for a bunch of them.
Incorrect Counterexample:
Is an infangthief dangerous? No
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