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MrHiTech

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Dreidel Card Idea
« on: December 05, 2018, 06:22:25 pm »
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It’s Hanukkah, which means I have to make a Dreidel Card.

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Dreidel (Action-Gathering, cost $2)
Dreidel - Action - Gathering - $2
+1 Card
+1 Action
Spin a dreidel (or a d4). If you spun a (4) ג, Take the Coffers from the Dreidel Supply pile; ה, Take half the Coffers from the Dreidel Supply pile, rounding up; (3) ש, Put a Coffers on the Dreidel Supply pile (if you can't, take 1 debt); נ, don’t do anything. Then, if there are no Coffers on the Dreidel Supply pile, add 2 Coffers to it and each player puts a Coffer on it.
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Setup: Put 2 Coffers on the Dreidel pile.

All feedback is appreciated!
EDIT: The proper text is
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נ, don’t do anything.
, but apostrophes break the link. Who knew?
DOUBLE EDIT: Thanks to Neirai The Forgiven for better wording.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2018, 09:04:58 pm by MrHiTech »
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Neirai the Forgiven

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Re: Dreidel Card Idea
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2018, 01:37:34 pm »
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I like, but, it's way too wordy to fit on a card.

I was able to cut it down a bit, but it's still pretty busy:
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Dreidel - Action - Gathering - $2
+1 Card
+1 Action
Spin a dreidel. If you spun a ג, Take the Coffers from the Dreidel Supply pile; ה, Take half the Coffers from the Dreidel Supply pile, rounding up; ש, Put a Coffers on the Dreidel Supply pile (if you can't, take @1); נ, don’t do anything. Then, if there are no Coffers on the Dreidel Supply pile, add 2 Coffers to it and each player puts a Coffer on it.
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Setup: Put 2 Coffers on the Dreidel pile.

What I'd actually suggest is that you break it out into an event; the name is probably a bad name, but you do something like this:

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Dreidel Action - Action - $2
+1 Card
+1 Action
Trigger the Dreidel event.
If there's no Coffers on the Dreidel event, add 2 Coffers to it, and each player puts a Coffers on it.
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Setup: Add the Dreidel event to the Supply, and Put 2 Coffers on it.

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Dreidel Action - Action - $2
+1 Card
+1 Action
Trigger the Dreidel event.
If there's no Coffers on the Dreidel event, add 2 Coffers to it, and each player puts a Coffers on it.
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Setup: Add the Dreidel event to the Supply, and Put 2 Coffers on it.

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Dreidel Event - Event - $n/a
Spin a dreidel. If you spun...
ג, Take the Coffers from here
, Take half the Coffers from here, rounding up
ש, Put a Coffers here (if you can't, take @1)
(נ, don’t do anything.)

Maybe that works?
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Re: Dreidel Card Idea
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2018, 05:26:28 pm »
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Interesting concept. Always nice to create something by bringing in outside factors.

My first question is how long does it take to spin a dreidel and get a result? Even at 5 seconds this would significantly slow the game down as you have to spin for each card played. This of course may not matter to some, but if it does matter to you and people you wanna play this with, I'd suggest only spinning 1 dreidel per turn. The effects can then scale with how many dreidel cards you have in play to make grabbing them in bulk worthwhile.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2018, 05:27:49 pm by Kudasai »
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Re: Dreidel Card Idea
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2018, 05:33:44 pm »
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Well, the gentiles among us would have to use a D4 anyway.

A quick analysis with 2 Coin tokens on this as benchmark would imply an average yield of 0.5 Coffers (+2, +1, -1, 0) which seems roughly balanced at $2. Of course it is more complex and there is some interaction around Coffers with this so it is a cool idea.
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Re: Dreidel Card Idea
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2018, 05:38:45 pm »
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Interesting concept. Always nice to create something by bringing in outside factors.

My first question is how long does it take to spin a dreidel and get a result? Even at 5 seconds this would significantly slow the game down as you have to spin for each card played. This of course may not matter to some, but if it does matter to you and people you wanna play this with, I'd suggest only spinning 1 dreidel per turn. The effects can then scale with how many dreidel cards you have in play to make grabbing them in bulk worthwhile.

If the dreidel spin takes too long, you could use a D4 as a replacement. Maybe one with Hebrew letters instead of numbers, to keep the reference to the Jewish culture, without slowing Dominion down too much.



Edit: I was too slow with my idea ...
« Last Edit: December 06, 2018, 05:40:00 pm by King Leon »
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Re: Dreidel Card Idea
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2018, 08:54:44 pm »
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Well, the gentiles among us would have to use a D4 anyway.
Not necessarily. In a “set” (probably a promo set) this would probably come with a Dreidel.
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Re: Dreidel Card Idea
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2018, 02:02:34 am »
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Well, the gentiles among us would have to use a D4 anyway.
Not necessarily. In a “set” (probably a promo set) this would probably come with a Dreidel.
That's not realistic by a long shot. Some of us do print fan cards but I never go so far as to make extra tokens (gotta print them, mount them on cardboard, cut them well) or whatever extra material the cards need but rather use what is available anyway.
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