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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1150 on: January 19, 2019, 02:01:21 pm »

From Adventure Time Mafia
I am pretty sure we had wagons on 2 scums, and I would not do this to bus my partner, because why would i?

This is kind of hilarious in light of LaLight's self-meta opinions of his own play.

But yeah of course, this was an argument for WCD, i tried to play on her newbiness at the time
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1151 on: January 19, 2019, 02:01:59 pm »

We have little over 48 hours. I will be practically completely unavailable tomorrow, but will be here on monday
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1152 on: January 19, 2019, 04:28:21 pm »

Sorry, snow storm coming in, other stuff to do today, getting back to this tomorrow.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1153 on: January 20, 2019, 04:24:31 pm »

FYI the deadline is at 8am for me. I intend to have my vote down before I go to bed tonight. I may be on again in the morning before deadline, but no promises.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1154 on: January 20, 2019, 06:59:35 pm »

As long as you're still planning to vote LL, I'm fine with that, basically leaves the decision on me, which is where it felt like it would end up anyway at the beginning of the day.

Sorry, I've spent what little time I had for this today reading old games, but haven't really posted any more about them. I'm throwing myself into trying to meta-read LaLight.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1155 on: January 20, 2019, 09:12:42 pm »

LaLight, why didn't you mention Samurai Jack Mafia?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1156 on: January 20, 2019, 11:37:00 pm »

LaLight, why didn't you mention Samurai Jack Mafia?

Oh well, totally forgot. It was a very weird game anyway, both of them actually. The first one was my first town MVP, the second one was won by RNG
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1157 on: January 21, 2019, 02:44:38 am »

I once swore to myself I would never forum mafia at 3 AM, but here we are:

If Jimm were scum it would be sooooooo tempting for scum to NK Swan on N1 (they're going to have to do it sooner or later anyway) and then scum!Jimmmmmmmm can counterclaim the other mason with a reasonable chance of trading 1 for 1 (but doesn't have to if it doesn't make sense in that situation)

Ash NK had to be PR hunting + fear.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1158 on: January 21, 2019, 02:48:46 am »

I once swore to myself I would never forum mafia at 3 AM, but here we are:

If Jimm were scum it would be sooooooo tempting for scum to NK Swan on N1 (they're going to have to do it sooner or later anyway) and then scum!Jimmmmmmmm can counterclaim the other mason with a reasonable chance of trading 1 for 1 (but doesn't have to if it doesn't make sense in that situation)

Ash NK had to be PR hunting + fear.

Why would he trade 1 to 1 on D2?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1159 on: January 21, 2019, 02:51:48 am »

Also for the record, my wallposts to myself have been useful to myself, so :p

LL: why would faust being outed as the mason partner on D2 be part of scum's plans? Especially in they hypothetical where the N1 kill was Swan instead?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1160 on: January 21, 2019, 02:56:58 am »

Also for the record, my wallposts to myself have been useful to myself, so :p

LL: why would faust being outed as the mason partner on D2 be part of scum's plans? Especially in they hypothetical where the N1 kill was Swan instead?

Sorry, I don't get it. Why do you think outing faust is a scumplan? What do you mean?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1161 on: January 21, 2019, 03:00:21 am »

I mean if Swan is killed, Jimmmmm claims Mason, and the only good thing out of 1v1 is taking down faust?

Especially given this:

Vote: Jimmmmm

No one would believe Jimmmmm is the partner
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1162 on: January 21, 2019, 03:02:52 am »

Honestly there's no reason to explain this to you, it's an argument for you being scum, so it's either wrong or you won't agree with it if it's right.

But anyway! That's not what I think. I'm saying that I wasn't saying that hypothetical scum!Jimmmmm would trade 1-for-1 on D2, I'm saying that if Swan were the N1 kill then scum!Jimmmm always has that option, and other Mason isn't likely to claim until L-1, and depending on the circumstances it could be very advantageous for scum!Jimmmm to counterclaim mason at that point in the game.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1163 on: January 21, 2019, 03:08:29 am »

Honestly there's no reason to explain this to you, it's an argument for you being scum, so it's either wrong or you won't agree with it if it's right.

But anyway! That's not what I think. I'm saying that I wasn't saying that hypothetical scum!Jimmmmm would trade 1-for-1 on D2, I'm saying that if Swan were the N1 kill then scum!Jimmmm always has that option, and other Mason isn't likely to claim until L-1, and depending on the circumstances it could be very advantageous for scum!Jimmmm to counterclaim mason at that point in the game.

ah, ok. Still, DS voted for Jimmmmm on D1, so it's not really an option, given how faust interacted with DS.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1164 on: January 21, 2019, 03:28:02 am »

So D1 would lead you to think no one would believe Jimmm was Swan's mason partner?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1165 on: January 21, 2019, 03:44:37 am »

So D1 would lead you to think no one would believe Jimmm was Swan's mason partner?

Compared to faust? I definitely don’t think so
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1166 on: January 21, 2019, 03:48:43 am »

Okay, cool

Vote: LaLight

Hammer is all yours, Jimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1167 on: January 21, 2019, 03:49:06 am »

noted
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1168 on: January 21, 2019, 03:51:03 am »

oh i see

vote: UoS
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1169 on: January 21, 2019, 03:53:41 am »

This looks like UoS has more information than me and doesn't really want to share it... How does this even make sense for town?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1170 on: January 21, 2019, 03:59:03 am »

it just looks like "here, obvious proof that LL is scum, can't you see that". I hope it doesn't work
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1171 on: January 21, 2019, 03:59:38 am »

Overall I didn't see UoS being the last scum. I am surprised. This is a good play from you
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #1172 on: January 21, 2019, 04:06:57 am »

The reason for mcmcs' death, which I didn't see until I finished the reread:
So here is my concern. I know I’m town, I know swan is town, I’m operating under the assumption jimm is town (if not amazing gambit by Dylan mvp). So either one of umbrage/lalight are bussing joth or they are hoping to god jimm or me hammers this for the win.

Woah I just reread lalight he has literally been pushing for my lynch the entire game.

Rereading umbrage now but I don’t think lalight and umbrage are partners and I honk lalight looks more like a bussing partner than umbrage.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1173 on: January 21, 2019, 04:10:37 am »

The other thing is that back at that point in the game, I only worked out faust + Swan by POE with a scrap of a napkin. It was something you could see, but it wasn't obvious, no one else acted like it was obvious, scum were already playing up Jim + Swan conspiracy theories at the end of D1. But you could work it out if you sat down and looked through the options on N1, and that can become fixed in your mind as something more obvious than it was.

That, and it reads to me like LaLight hasn't been looking at D1 as closely as you'd expect of town here.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1174 on: January 21, 2019, 04:14:53 am »

Overall I didn't see UoS being the last scum. I am surprised. This is a good play from you

Why? How has he played a good game? (Sorry if you've said that already.)
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