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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1125 on: January 19, 2019, 06:39:22 am »

nonsense. I always interact with my scum partners if i am scum, look at any of my last 3-4 games or basically at any of my games. I actually do think that not interacting with your partners is such a poor play I create interactions that are scummy. and also:

Also LaLight hammers his scum partner EVERY time, so that should have been a huge scum tell.  Well played LaLight

I didn’t hammer!

True, I guess I should just say busses!

this was just the last game before this one. if those two were my partners, I would vote dylan the same minute he claimed cop and I would vote both of them a lot throughout the game. I am positive town points are much more valuable than living partner. Sometimes I shoot myself to the leg with this, but this just always happens.

This is a poor defense from someone as aware of metas as you. The fact that you're arguing that you always bus as scum demonstrates that you're self-aware enough to try to play against your scum meta. If you, someone who was clearly thinking and talking about metas at the start of the game, bussed in your last 3-4 scum games, why on earth would you do it again this game?

because i am well aware and sure that creating zero interactions with your partners just instantly outs you. This just happened in the last M game before this one. Meta is one thing, poor play is another one
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1126 on: January 19, 2019, 06:40:34 am »

I am not self aware enough to just radically change my style the way it will look organically.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1127 on: January 19, 2019, 06:42:05 am »

I just don't know which is scummier: you for making this case or UoS for saying this is convincible
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1128 on: January 19, 2019, 06:47:23 am »

I am not self aware enough to just radically change my style the way it will look organically.

Are you saying you weren't aware at the start of the game that your scum meta was to bus etc, or that you'd be unable to not interact with your teammates?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1129 on: January 19, 2019, 06:48:05 am »

because i am well aware and sure that creating zero interactions with your partners just instantly outs you. This just happened in the last M game before this one. Meta is one thing, poor play is another one

By your logic, you are instantly outed.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1130 on: January 19, 2019, 06:48:10 am »

I am not self aware enough to just radically change my style the way it will look organically.

Are you saying you weren't aware at the start of the game that your scum meta was to bus etc, or that you'd be unable to not interact with your teammates?

I'd be unable to not interact with them, I think this is superdumb thing to do
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1131 on: January 19, 2019, 06:49:02 am »

because i am well aware and sure that creating zero interactions with your partners just instantly outs you. This just happened in the last M game before this one. Meta is one thing, poor play is another one

By your logic, you are instantly outed.

I am town though.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1132 on: January 19, 2019, 06:49:23 am »

creating zero interactions with your partners just instantly outs you.

I just don't know which is scummier: you for making this case

These two statements contradict.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1133 on: January 19, 2019, 06:52:17 am »

creating zero interactions with your partners just instantly outs you.

I just don't know which is scummier: you for making this case

These two statements contradict.

no, they don't. I see that you've made a lackluster case based on no interactions between me and known scums to paint me scummier.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1134 on: January 19, 2019, 06:53:08 am »

creating zero interactions with your partners just instantly outs you.

I just don't know which is scummier: you for making this case

These two statements contradict.

I see why you think this from your point of view though. Argh
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1135 on: January 19, 2019, 06:54:13 am »

there's basically nothing i can say that won't be the quote of my QT to convince you you're wrong here and town!me would definitely have less interactions with scums in this game than scum!me
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1136 on: January 19, 2019, 06:54:24 am »

But it is so
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1137 on: January 19, 2019, 07:11:11 am »

there's basically nothing i can say that won't be the quote of my QT to convince you you're wrong here and town!me would definitely have less interactions with scums in this game than scum!me

Why would you want to convince me?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1138 on: January 19, 2019, 07:13:12 am »

there's basically nothing i can say that won't be the quote of my QT to convince you you're wrong here and town!me would definitely have less interactions with scums in this game than scum!me

Why would you want to convince me?

Because atm I am talking with you and there is a non-zero probability that you are town
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1139 on: January 19, 2019, 07:15:35 am »

there's basically nothing i can say that won't be the quote of my QT to convince you you're wrong here and town!me would definitely have less interactions with scums in this game than scum!me

Why would you want to convince me?

Because atm I am talking with you and there is a non-zero probability that you are town

As I've learned Today, making the case on yourself to by Town at LyLo doesn't always do much. If you're Town, convince me that Umbrage is scum or Umbrage that I am scum (preferably the former).
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1140 on: January 19, 2019, 09:36:16 am »

I've said it before, but this sort of thing is a big scumtell for me. I think scum makes kills trying to be unpredictable, thinking that Townies will see them and think "Why that kill??". But mostly I think Townies just see the kill, think "Not me, okay" and carry on with the game.

I do this all the time as town, for the record. Also I feel like I'm more likely to think "why was it not me?"
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1141 on: January 19, 2019, 09:45:05 am »

Do either of you remember examples of games where LaLight was
a) caught scum fighting while freaking out?
b) town about to be mislynched in LYLO?

Felt like I got a pretty genuine reaction out of him either way there.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1142 on: January 19, 2019, 09:45:37 am »

Do either of you remember examples of games where LaLight was
a) caught scum fighting while freaking out?
b) town about to be mislynched in LYLO?

Felt like I got a pretty genuine reaction out of him either way there.

There was never a precedent for b
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1143 on: January 19, 2019, 09:46:10 am »

It's notable to me that LaLight didn't OMGUS Jimmmmm, I feel like a lot of players would have. Maybe because I threw in a comment and it felt more like a ganging up?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1144 on: January 19, 2019, 09:48:46 am »

Can you please give me a couple games where you were alive in LYLO, as each alignment, LaLight?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1145 on: January 19, 2019, 09:49:14 am »

talking about a) if i understood you correctly, there was huge mess in RMM40 (Stranger Things) where I was scum and I freaked out as hell
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1146 on: January 19, 2019, 09:50:02 am »

Can you please give me a couple games where you were alive in LYLO, as each alignment, LaLight?

Last one was Newbie Mafia Adventure Time as scum, and I don't remember the town one. At least 3-person LyLo is a really new thing to me
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1147 on: January 19, 2019, 09:50:57 am »

Thank you
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1148 on: January 19, 2019, 10:10:55 am »

From Adventure Time Mafia
I am pretty sure we had wagons on 2 scums, and I would not do this to bus my partner, because why would i?

This is kind of hilarious in light of LaLight's self-meta opinions of his own play.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1149 on: January 19, 2019, 10:11:59 am »

Okay, I clearly need moar coffee.
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