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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1025 on: January 15, 2019, 07:57:36 am »

all in all, looking especially at D2, I am pretty set on Jimmmmm being scum. Mad propz to UoS if you are one.

vote: Jimmmmm

Well that was a quick LyLo vote.

I want to stick to my guns.

I have no basic idea how mcmc's kill would be profitable to scum. The only possible explanation is that you are one. If UoS would be one, he would kill you and let me and mcmc vote for each other to win. You, on the other hand, after dealing with Dylan came up townie on a first level and might've had a plan so you and UoS who were townreading each other would just simply mislynch me and game over you're MVP. I am still afraid that's what would happen
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1026 on: January 15, 2019, 08:09:54 am »

all in all, looking especially at D2, I am pretty set on Jimmmmm being scum. Mad propz to UoS if you are one.

vote: Jimmmmm

Well that was a quick LyLo vote.

I want to stick to my guns.

I have no basic idea how mcmc's kill would be profitable to scum. The only possible explanation is that you are one. If UoS would be one, he would kill you and let me and mcmc vote for each other to win. You, on the other hand, after dealing with Dylan came up townie on a first level and might've had a plan so you and UoS who were townreading each other would just simply mislynch me and game over you're MVP. I am still afraid that's what would happen

Honestly I thought it was likely that UoS killed mcmc because I had labelled you as a likely third scum.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1027 on: January 15, 2019, 08:11:49 am »

So... there's no way you'll unvote and give us a chance at a proper Day before UoS shows up?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1028 on: January 15, 2019, 08:12:08 am »

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1029 on: January 15, 2019, 08:12:26 am »

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1030 on: January 15, 2019, 08:12:32 am »

all in all, looking especially at D2, I am pretty set on Jimmmmm being scum. Mad propz to UoS if you are one.

vote: Jimmmmm

Well that was a quick LyLo vote.

I want to stick to my guns.

I have no basic idea how mcmc's kill would be profitable to scum. The only possible explanation is that you are one. If UoS would be one, he would kill you and let me and mcmc vote for each other to win. You, on the other hand, after dealing with Dylan came up townie on a first level and might've had a plan so you and UoS who were townreading each other would just simply mislynch me and game over you're MVP. I am still afraid that's what would happen

Honestly I thought it was likely that UoS killed mcmc because I had labelled you as a likely third scum.

I don't understand your reasoning, can you elaborate?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1031 on: January 15, 2019, 08:13:18 am »

ah sorry, got it
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1032 on: January 15, 2019, 08:14:42 am »

why did you label me as a third scum by the way? I don't think I ever saw a reasoning for it
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1033 on: January 15, 2019, 08:15:49 am »

all in all, looking especially at D2, I am pretty set on Jimmmmm being scum. Mad propz to UoS if you are one.

vote: Jimmmmm

Well that was a quick LyLo vote.

I want to stick to my guns.

I have no basic idea how mcmc's kill would be profitable to scum. The only possible explanation is that you are one. If UoS would be one, he would kill you and let me and mcmc vote for each other to win. You, on the other hand, after dealing with Dylan came up townie on a first level and might've had a plan so you and UoS who were townreading each other would just simply mislynch me and game over you're MVP. I am still afraid that's what would happen

Honestly I thought it was likely that UoS killed mcmc because I had labelled you as a likely third scum.

I don't understand your reasoning, can you elaborate?

When asked for my most likely scum team (after Dylan's claim, but I think before his lynch), I said Dylan and joth, and named you as a likely third. I was expecting to be killed last Night, and my first instinct for the reason behind the mcmc kill is that UoS thought I would be likely to vote for you.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1034 on: January 15, 2019, 08:17:44 am »

why did you label me as a third scum by the way? I don't think I ever saw a reasoning for it

To be perfectly honest, I can't remember. I was planning to re-read you both from scratch Today before voting. Hang on, I'll have a look.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1035 on: January 15, 2019, 08:18:23 am »

Also, my first post Today was hoping to bait UoS into being too eager to vote for you.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1036 on: January 15, 2019, 08:23:08 am »

Also, my first post Today was hoping to bait UoS into being too eager to vote for you.

so you could win, right?

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1037 on: January 15, 2019, 08:24:06 am »

Also, my first post Today was hoping to bait UoS into being too eager to vote for you.

so you could win, right?

To try to test my theory about the mcmc kill.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1038 on: January 15, 2019, 08:26:31 am »

the more I think that you are trying to divert my attention from you the more I think you are scum, actually. But I will wait just in case.

given that you really was sure I am a third scum, mcmc's kill is reasonable from UoS as well, But he still has the whole game of being townie. But ok, I'll wait.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #1039 on: January 15, 2019, 08:29:46 am »

I think it's really stupid for scum to try to set up faust and Swan and it works for us in a really good way, PoE is strong with this one. Also I thought silver was scum pretty probably, so I like the kill. I have a couple more days of low activity, hope I'll be more active after, sorry

I think naming you as third was for this post, but it was more instinct than anything. I think scum does a fair bit of trying to appear as Town trying to analyse scum kills, moreso than Town spends time analysing kills. "I thought silver was scum pretty probably, so I like the kill" particularly seems more like the former than the latter.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1040 on: January 15, 2019, 08:32:54 am »

the more I think that you are trying to divert my attention from you the more I think you are scum, actually. But I will wait just in case.

How am I trying to divert attention from me, and why is that scummy? Self preservation at LyLo is not a scum tell.


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given that you really was sure I am a third scum, mcmc's kill is reasonable from UoS as well, But he still has the whole game of being townie. But ok, I'll wait.

I definitely wasn't sure you're the third scum.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1041 on: January 15, 2019, 08:39:20 am »

the more I think that you are trying to divert my attention from you the more I think you are scum, actually. But I will wait just in case.

How am I trying to divert attention from me, and why is that scummy? Self preservation at LyLo is not a scum tell.


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given that you really was sure I am a third scum, mcmc's kill is reasonable from UoS as well, But he still has the whole game of being townie. But ok, I'll wait.

I definitely wasn't sure you're the third scum.

Yeah, sorry, not sure, but you thought that and I think that's one of the explanations for the kill, that's what I meant

I just feel like you're decepting me into thinking UoS is scum. I don't say self-preservation is a scumtell, it's just how I feel
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1042 on: January 15, 2019, 08:40:39 am »

talking about vote counts, I noticed UoS, Joth and Dylan being on the same wagon a fair amount of times, I don't think scumteam would do something that reckless. Even taking wifom into account
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1043 on: January 15, 2019, 08:40:53 am »

could you say how often do you bus your scum partners?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1044 on: January 15, 2019, 08:42:00 am »

I just feel like you're decepting me into thinking UoS is scum. I don't say self-preservation is a scumtell, it's just how I feel

How? How have I responded differently than I would as Town worried that UoS will swoop in and hammer?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1045 on: January 15, 2019, 08:44:26 am »

well, you seem less nervous and more calculating than I would expect from town who thinks they're going to lose just here and now
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1046 on: January 15, 2019, 08:45:25 am »

like, after my vote, you did 5 posts only in the last one asking calmly to unvote.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1047 on: January 15, 2019, 08:56:21 am »

5 one-sentence posts is more calculating than nervous?

I didn't really ask you to unvote. Given how early in the Day you voted, I kind of assumed you wouldn't. I started making a post voting for you, but was too worried that the game was over as soon as UoS arrived, so I double checked whether you were firm on your vote.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1048 on: January 15, 2019, 09:09:06 am »

You know how I feel about "that's too crazy for scum to do" arguments coming from a suspect, but man. Scum had us at a flawless MyLo. If I'm scum then Dylan's claim completely guaranteed that the next lynch would be on scum. Joth and I then rallied against each other, basically ensuring that the next lynch would be on scum.

I mean, there's bussing and there's self-destruction. By voting for me you are arguing that I threw away the chance to win the game then and there TWICE just for the chance to win at the very last opportunity.

I understand the irony of this post if I was scum (I'm not!). But just understand what you're arguing for if you vote for me. How many scum teams in the history of forum Mafia do you think have been on the cusp of a flawless victory but decided "Let's get all of us but one killed so that last one gets lots of Town cred!"

That would be crazy.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1049 on: January 15, 2019, 10:24:08 am »

At that point Joth and Dylan were practically universally scumread, so yeah, i see the irony of doing this if you’re scum. Scums didn’t have us then, we had two unfortunate mislynches, but we had masons both alive, some other people being townread (say, UoS) so well...
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