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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #350 on: December 19, 2018, 03:38:35 pm »

Vote Count 1.7

DatSwan (4): Dylan32, Galzria, jotheonah, Robz888
Dylan32 (2): UmbrageOfSnow, Jimmmmm
silverspawn (2): ashersky, mcmcsalot
mcmcsalot (1): LaLight
Jimmmmm (1): silverspawn
Galzria (2): faust, DatSwan

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
D1 ends at 11am Czech time (5am Forum Time) on Thursday 20th December. That's in a little under 13.5 hours.

Note on vote counts: EFHW is not using my vote counter, but I'll run the final count for D1. I have plenty of variations on "Jimmmmm" on the alias list. I want to make it very clear that typos in usernames risk them not being counted (I may or may not have already allowed them), and that this is a good thing because allowing players too much leeway in how to announce their votes makes the game less inclusive for players who don't have the same meta history or cultural references to work with.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #351 on: December 19, 2018, 03:47:35 pm »

No lynching would be terrible.

If it were up to me, somebody would get DS to L-1 soon, so we can give him time to claim, and give ourselves an end of day option.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #352 on: December 19, 2018, 03:48:50 pm »

The Jimmmmm lynch seems eminently viable. Maybe too viable.

The people that have voted Jimmm, and in order are:

Faust (57)
Joth (61)
Joth (224) (intent at 215, bad formatting)
Silver (243)
Swan (275)
Robz (313)

And then I just said that I would to get a lynch.

I believe the highest his wagon has been is 3.

So that's six players. Assuming they're all still feeling it, we would need to convince one of UoS, LaLight,  Dylan, mcmc, and ashersky to go along.

So yeah. Super doable.

I was going to say that this should worry us because easy lynches are town lynches, but I talked myself out of it. I'm in. And I'm about to drop off availability-wise so I'll move my vote now.

vote: Jimmmmm
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #353 on: December 19, 2018, 03:51:06 pm »

The Jimmmmm lynch seems eminently viable. Maybe too viable.

The people that have voted Jimmm, and in order are:

Faust (57)
Joth (61)
Joth (224) (intent at 215, bad formatting)
Silver (243)
Swan (275)
Robz (313)

And then I just said that I would to get a lynch.

I believe the highest his wagon has been is 3.

So that's six players. Assuming they're all still feeling it, we would need to convince one of UoS, LaLight,  Dylan, mcmc, and ashersky to go along.

So yeah. Super doable.

I was going to say that this should worry us because easy lynches are town lynches, but I talked myself out of it. I'm in. And I'm about to drop off availability-wise so I'll move my vote now.

vote: Jimmmmm

No lynching would be terrible.

If it were up to me, somebody would get DS to L-1 soon, so we can give him time to claim, and give ourselves an end of day option.

D1 ends at 11am Czech time (5am Forum Time) on Thursday 20th December. That's in a little under 13.5 hours.

13.5 hours is still plenty of time. If you prefer DatSwan to Jimmm, I would suggest staying on DatSwan.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #354 on: December 19, 2018, 03:57:25 pm »

The Jimmmmm lynch seems eminently viable. Maybe too viable.

The people that have voted Jimmm, and in order are:

Faust (57)
Joth (61)
Joth (224) (intent at 215, bad formatting)
Silver (243)
Swan (275)
Robz (313)

And then I just said that I would to get a lynch.

I believe the highest his wagon has been is 3.

So that's six players. Assuming they're all still feeling it, we would need to convince one of UoS, LaLight,  Dylan, mcmc, and ashersky to go along.

So yeah. Super doable.

I was going to say that this should worry us because easy lynches are town lynches, but I talked myself out of it. I'm in. And I'm about to drop off availability-wise so I'll move my vote now.

vote: Jimmmmm

No lynching would be terrible.

If it were up to me, somebody would get DS to L-1 soon, so we can give him time to claim, and give ourselves an end of day option.

D1 ends at 11am Czech time (5am Forum Time) on Thursday 20th December. That's in a little under 13.5 hours.

13.5 hours is still plenty of time. If you prefer DatSwan to Jimmm, I would suggest staying on DatSwan.

In a vacuum, it's plenty of time. Given the speed at which this game has been moving, it's a very short time. Also consider that many of us will be asleep for the last 6 or so of those 13 hours.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #355 on: December 19, 2018, 04:02:17 pm »

The Jimmmmm lynch seems eminently viable. Maybe too viable.

The people that have voted Jimmm, and in order are:

Faust (57)
Joth (61)
Joth (224) (intent at 215, bad formatting)
Silver (243)
Swan (275)
Robz (313)

And then I just said that I would to get a lynch.

I believe the highest his wagon has been is 3.

So that's six players. Assuming they're all still feeling it, we would need to convince one of UoS, LaLight,  Dylan, mcmc, and ashersky to go along.

So yeah. Super doable.

I was going to say that this should worry us because easy lynches are town lynches, but I talked myself out of it. I'm in. And I'm about to drop off availability-wise so I'll move my vote now.

vote: Jimmmmm

No lynching would be terrible.

If it were up to me, somebody would get DS to L-1 soon, so we can give him time to claim, and give ourselves an end of day option.

D1 ends at 11am Czech time (5am Forum Time) on Thursday 20th December. That's in a little under 13.5 hours.

13.5 hours is still plenty of time. If you prefer DatSwan to Jimmm, I would suggest staying on DatSwan.

In a vacuum, it's plenty of time. Given the speed at which this game has been moving, it's a very short time. Also consider that many of us will be asleep for the last 6 or so of those 13 hours.

Your second point has some validity - my argument against the first would require you to skim the last 20 or so most recent games, where you'll find that like, 20% of D1 posts come within the 3-4 hours leading up to deadline (or at least, it definitely feels that way). Point being, a slow 6.75 real life days says nothing about how the last .25 will go.

Still, yes - deadline is 2:00am for me, and 5:00am for others here. While I'll likely be up/around, there may be a few people that are not.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #356 on: December 19, 2018, 04:04:44 pm »

I'll move back to vote: DatSwan for a few more hours, Galz. For you. I really need to go now for irl stuff, but I'll probably check back in around 7 or 8 pm forum time. Hopefully ... things of some kind will happen.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #357 on: December 19, 2018, 04:06:23 pm »

Just reread Jimmmmm. I could move, and would like that more than some of the other options that have been mentioned, but would rather stay on DatSwan.

I'll be off and on this evening, but won't be on at all in the morning.

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #358 on: December 19, 2018, 04:23:57 pm »

The total and complete lack of interest in Dylan has me itching to lynch Dylan more and more.

That said, I'd prefer DerSwan to Jimmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, so

Vote: DatSwan
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #359 on: December 19, 2018, 04:36:39 pm »

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #360 on: December 19, 2018, 04:59:21 pm »

I still like silver lynch the best but doesn’t look to be going anywhere I don’t like the jimm wagon but would vote datswan or galzria
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #361 on: December 19, 2018, 05:00:38 pm »

Actually vote: datswan L-1

Claim time.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #362 on: December 19, 2018, 05:15:29 pm »

Yeah I was gonna do it anyways at L-2 so we have time...
you all suck! (just kidding)

I am a Mason. I am not claiming my partner. We should lynch Galz.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #363 on: December 19, 2018, 05:25:34 pm »

Ok. Well, the prior for masons is roughly 45%. scum could fake claim but probably won't. I also don't think DatSwan was guaranteed to be lynched.

So we shouldn't lynch him for sure. Maybe go Jim instead?

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #364 on: December 19, 2018, 05:27:05 pm »

Jimm would be my second choice at this point.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #365 on: December 19, 2018, 05:28:13 pm »

actually Galz-Robz-Jimm in that order.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #366 on: December 19, 2018, 05:29:53 pm »

Ok. Well, the prior for masons is roughly 45%. scum could fake claim but probably won't. I also don't think DatSwan was guaranteed to be lynched.

So we shouldn't lynch him for sure. Maybe go Jim instead?

Jimmm could happen. It should be noted that if scum were going to fakeclaim Mason, this is exactly how they would do so - by refusing to announce their partner so as to not incriminate another player.
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TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #367 on: December 19, 2018, 05:32:42 pm »

Vote: Jimmmm
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #368 on: December 19, 2018, 05:37:33 pm »

Ok. Well, the prior for masons is roughly 45%. scum could fake claim but probably won't. I also don't think DatSwan was guaranteed to be lynched.

So we shouldn't lynch him for sure. Maybe go Jim instead?

Jimmm could happen. It should be noted that if scum were going to fakeclaim Mason, this is exactly how they would do so - by refusing to announce their partner so as to not incriminate another player.


Yeah, but any sensible town would do it like this, too.

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #369 on: December 19, 2018, 05:42:58 pm »

Ok. Well, the prior for masons is roughly 45%. scum could fake claim but probably won't. I also don't think DatSwan was guaranteed to be lynched.

So we shouldn't lynch him for sure. Maybe go Jim instead?

Jimmm could happen. It should be noted that if scum were going to fakeclaim Mason, this is exactly how they would do so - by refusing to announce their partner so as to not incriminate another player.


Yeah, but any sensible town would do it like this, too.

Yes, which is why I’m not insisting on trying to lynch him anyway. The claim itself, in this manner, is neither scummy nor townie.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #370 on: December 19, 2018, 05:45:13 pm »

What are the chances of a 3M roll? If there’s a UB in play that did NOT auto-convert to Mason, should they claim and we lynch Swan?
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #371 on: December 19, 2018, 05:49:10 pm »

Okay, Vote: Jimmmm

Note to DatSwan: you should stop giving reads if you wish to preserve your partner's anonymity (unless you're doing a fake out).
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #372 on: December 19, 2018, 05:51:47 pm »

What are the chances of a 3M roll?

Not conditioning on the mason claim, three M it's 1,458%. Three or more M is 1,585%.

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #373 on: December 19, 2018, 05:54:54 pm »

If there’s a UB in play that did NOT auto-convert to Mason, should they claim and we lynch Swan?

Good question. I think they answer is yes, they should claim.

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #374 on: December 19, 2018, 05:55:02 pm »

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