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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #200 on: December 17, 2018, 09:10:48 am »

I think this is quite transparent why I am voting ash
Why did you write this rather than an explanation of your vote?

well, because it's always better to withhold information to draw any kind of reactions rather than just saying things, in my opinion
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #201 on: December 17, 2018, 09:15:26 am »

I think this is quite transparent why I am voting ash
Why did you write this rather than an explanation of your vote?

well, because it's always better to withhold information to draw any kind of reactions rather than just saying things, in my opinion
So how do you think our little exchange where you withheld the information only to reveal it in literally your next post helped the town effort? I know that withholding information can be good, but I don't understand why you think that would apply in this case.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #202 on: December 17, 2018, 10:17:49 am »

I think this is quite transparent why I am voting ash
Why did you write this rather than an explanation of your vote?

well, because it's always better to withhold information to draw any kind of reactions rather than just saying things, in my opinion
So how do you think our little exchange where you withheld the information only to reveal it in literally your next post helped the town effort? I know that withholding information can be good, but I don't understand why you think that would apply in this case.

Well, my little plan was for someone to play along (that’s why there was really some rason behind my words) and maybe make ash nervous and see the reaction, but when I got a direct question, i thought it would be much better just to answer it so the point is moot.

vote: mcmc
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #203 on: December 17, 2018, 12:23:04 pm »

Right right I shouldn't blindly follow LaLight's vote on ash. vote: mcmc. See, I did better!

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #204 on: December 17, 2018, 12:45:47 pm »

I’m caught up. I agree that datswans defensiveness has felt scummy. But Faust’s post about scum wanting to not combat votes they receive is very true, it happens all the time. I don’t like how quickly the Dylan wagon grew and for the reasons. It was almost a mix of scum reads and pressure votes to reveal his datswan scum tell.

I really want to vote lalight which means he’s probably town.

Actually vote: silverspawn I don’t like his Dylan vote and his jokey “I don’t like my own case” comment is scummy.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #205 on: December 17, 2018, 12:57:09 pm »

Vote Count 1.4

ashersky (1): Jimmmmm
mcmcsalot (2): Lalight, silverspawn
Robz888 (1): Galzria
DatSwan (2): Dylan32, jotheonah
Dylan32 (3): faust, UmbrageOfSnow, Robz888
silverspawn (2): ashersky, mcmcsalot


Not Voting (1): DatSwan

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
D1 ends at 11am Czech time (5am Forum Time) on Thursday 20th December.

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #206 on: December 17, 2018, 01:46:55 pm »

Actually vote: silverspawn I don’t like his Dylan vote and his jokey “I don’t like my own case” comment is scummy.

I was not joking. I made a case questioning joth's town motviation, had a chat with him, and concluded that he just thinks differently about the game and what he said was pretty much no evidence.

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #207 on: December 17, 2018, 01:53:09 pm »

@joth, is 'he' the right pronoun?

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #208 on: December 17, 2018, 02:08:02 pm »

@joth, is 'he' the right pronoun?

It is, but thanks for asking!
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #209 on: December 17, 2018, 03:00:49 pm »

My reason for voting Dylan wasn't because of the lack of explanation for the Swan vote, it was for the shading of Robz and then throwing the vote elsewhere. (Although pressure was certainly another bonus concern.)

@mcmcsalot, faust, Joth: were you guys (pretty sure you are all guys, apologies if wrong) misunderstanding my reasoning?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #210 on: December 17, 2018, 04:16:01 pm »

My reason for voting Dylan wasn't because of the lack of explanation for the Swan vote, it was for the shading of Robz and then throwing the vote elsewhere. (Although pressure was certainly another bonus concern.)

@mcmcsalot, faust, Joth: were you guys (pretty sure you are all guys, apologies if wrong) misunderstanding my reasoning?

Your vote had a great reason and I find you towny for it. It was the following votes that I found scummy.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #211 on: December 17, 2018, 04:34:25 pm »

I’m caught up. I agree that datswans defensiveness has felt scummy. But Faust’s post about scum wanting to not combat votes they receive is very true, it happens all the time. I don’t like how quickly the Dylan wagon grew and for the reasons. It was almost a mix of scum reads and pressure votes to reveal his datswan scum tell.

I really want to vote lalight which means he’s probably town.

Actually vote: silverspawn I don’t like his Dylan vote and his jokey “I don’t like my own case” comment is scummy.

I agree with all of this except the Dylan wagon, the Dylan wagon was fine.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #212 on: December 17, 2018, 08:02:59 pm »

Looking at what seem to have been the major lynch candidates, I think mcmc and Dylan are scummyish and DatSwan is Towny.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #213 on: December 17, 2018, 08:56:12 pm »

Looking at what seem to have been the major lynch candidates, I think mcmc and Dylan are scummyish and DatSwan is Towny.

And yet your vote remains on ashersky.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #214 on: December 17, 2018, 09:51:52 pm »

Looking at what seem to have been the major lynch candidates, I think mcmc and Dylan are scummyish and DatSwan is Towny.

And yet your vote remains on ashersky.

Always a good lynch.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #215 on: December 17, 2018, 10:52:48 pm »

Vote: Jimmmmm. Never should have moved it.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #216 on: December 17, 2018, 11:38:16 pm »

Vote: Jimmmmm. Never should have moved it.

I guess you forgot to bold? Is this because you actually think I'm scum or because my last comment annoyed you?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #217 on: December 18, 2018, 03:34:11 am »

I agree with all of this except the Dylan wagon, the Dylan wagon was fine.
They can't all be the best wagon ever.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #218 on: December 18, 2018, 03:35:48 am »

My reason for voting Dylan wasn't because of the lack of explanation for the Swan vote, it was for the shading of Robz and then throwing the vote elsewhere. (Although pressure was certainly another bonus concern.)

@mcmcsalot, faust, Joth: were you guys (pretty sure you are all guys, apologies if wrong) misunderstanding my reasoning?
I don't think I was. It is still possible that Dylan's subsequent explanation of his vote convinced you that he's town even if you voted him originally for some other reason.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #219 on: December 18, 2018, 03:37:08 am »

Looking at what seem to have been the major lynch candidates, I think mcmc and Dylan are scummyish and DatSwan is Towny.
Any reason you put down mcmc as major lynch candidate and not silver (who has the same number of votes)?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #220 on: December 18, 2018, 03:40:24 am »

Anyways my vote on Dylan has outlived its usefulness. Vote: mcmc
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #221 on: December 18, 2018, 06:20:05 am »

Looking at what seem to have been the major lynch candidates, I think mcmc and Dylan are scummyish and DatSwan is Towny.
Any reason you put down mcmc as major lynch candidate and not silver (who has the same number of votes)?

No. I'll have a look at silver.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #222 on: December 18, 2018, 09:19:40 am »

I think I'm still happy with my vote on Dylan. I am realizing Umbrage is quite an under scrutinized player today.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #223 on: December 18, 2018, 09:35:23 am »

I’m caught up. I agree that datswans defensiveness has felt scummy. But Faust’s post about scum wanting to not combat votes they receive is very true, it happens all the time. I don’t like how quickly the Dylan wagon grew and for the reasons. It was almost a mix of scum reads and pressure votes to reveal his datswan scum tell.

I really want to vote lalight which means he’s probably town.

Actually vote: silverspawn I don’t like his Dylan vote and his jokey “I don’t like my own case” comment is scummy.

I agree with all of this except the Dylan wagon, the Dylan wagon was fine.

If you agree with that, it implies that you have some kind of problem with the explanation I gave above, because as I see it, the thing on me is just a point of confusion. So what's wrong with my explanation?

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #224 on: December 18, 2018, 09:53:12 am »

Vote: Jimmmmm. Never should have moved it.

I guess you forgot to bold? Is this because you actually think I'm scum or because my last comment annoyed you?

I don’t vote for people unless I think they’re scum. vote: jimmmm

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