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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #100 on: December 13, 2018, 07:22:57 pm »

Vote Count 1.1

ashersky (1): Jimmmmm
mcmcsalot (1): LaLight
Jimmmmm (2): faust, jotheonah
jotheonah (1): silverspawn
silverspawn (2): UmbrageOfSnow, Robz888
Robz888 (1): Galzria

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D1 ends at 11am Czech time (5am Forum Time) on Thursday 20th December.

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #101 on: December 13, 2018, 08:00:54 pm »

Wow ton of talking so far - i mean all about nonsense obviously but that is to be expected.

Lots of people i have not played with before - hello to all!
Great to have you! Feel free to call me Swan, and i am a “he”. Looks like Galz covered the twinsie claim so that’s that

People i have played with before - good to see you.

I will have limited access from Jan 3 - Jan 8. I will be around holiday time.

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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #102 on: December 13, 2018, 08:29:31 pm »

I'd argue that liking early wagons is indeed pro-town and not based-on-nothing or scum-indicative.

Can you (and Jimmmm I guess) explain this perspective?

To get the game going. But if you talk about it it ruins it.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #103 on: December 14, 2018, 02:51:48 am »

I'd argue that liking early wagons is indeed pro-town and not based-on-nothing or scum-indicative.

Can you (and Jimmmm I guess) explain this perspective?

To get the game going. But if you talk about it it ruins it.
I think joth has done significantly more to get the game going than you so far.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #104 on: December 14, 2018, 03:04:13 am »

I'll be here soon.

I must warn you guys that my level of activity will be much lower than usual, you could notice that in games I was modding. Little bit life changing events

Talking about metas and me reading everything, I have usually quite bad reads. So far nothing really rubbed me in a wrong way, but I will reread everything closely at some time today
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #105 on: December 14, 2018, 09:07:16 am »

I’m caught up, joth and silver looks strongly like town v town.


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Their “woah lots going on” feels like scum surprised by the amount of discussion vs town. Town is likely to be excited and specific versus scum who would be general and dismissive.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #106 on: December 14, 2018, 09:12:44 am »

Caught up.

I will be exclusively phone posting this game and probably be accessing once a day.  So that’s that. If I have more time on. Particular day, I’ll try to contribute more.

I like the action so far, feels very three years ago.  All the usual scum vibes from too jokey Galz, too friendly Robz, and too quiet Jimmmmmmm that we usually expect.

That said, Faust is scum here. Meta/serious vote.

vote: faust
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #107 on: December 14, 2018, 09:13:31 am »

Also good to see mom salon!
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #108 on: December 14, 2018, 09:26:48 am »

I'd argue that liking early wagons is indeed pro-town and not based-on-nothing or scum-indicative.

Can you (and Jimmmm I guess) explain this perspective?

To get the game going. But if you talk about it it ruins it.

See, this makes no sense to me. If a wagon is to be any use at all, it's so that it can be analyzed. To analyze a wagon usefully, you have to know who got on it for what reasons, so you can determine who's scum. So even accepting that early wagons are useful, I would think that a wagon that you don't discuss -- or that discussion would "ruin" -- would completely negate that usefulness.

Also, I should officially say now that the game is going: I will be V/LA from December 20th to December 29th, on my honeymoon in Germany. There may be a few times I can check in, but the priority has to be quality time with the wife! Hopefully, based on the schedule, some portion of that time will be night, which should mitigate the impact.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #109 on: December 14, 2018, 10:34:44 am »

I’m caught up, joth and silver looks strongly like town v town.
Can you explain what gives you this impression?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #110 on: December 14, 2018, 10:35:25 am »

Also, I should officially say now that the game is going: I will be V/LA from December 20th to December 29th, on my honeymoon in Germany. There may be a few times I can check in, but the priority has to be quality time with the wife! Hopefully, based on the schedule, some portion of that time will be night, which should mitigate the impact.
Cool! Where in Germany will you be?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #111 on: December 14, 2018, 10:38:35 am »

Also, Vote: Robz for hating D1 and never participating. D1 is as useful, and often moreso than almost any other day as it establishes the baseline for the rest of the game to follow.
And the baseline you seek to establish is policy voting?

He's given me no reason to believe he's not scum. That can be said of others, too, mind you - but as Robz won't play D1 unless given a reason, yes, I'm perfectly content with that vote right now.

Fair, but I am intending to play this day 1 anyway. I’m going to surprise you!

vote: josh for asking this question too early. Smells like scared scum.

Vote: silverspawn since I don’t believe this is scummy and Joth is far more easily explained as energetic returning player than scared scum.

For some reason this feels as alittlebitscummy!Robz. I can't point exactly why
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #112 on: December 14, 2018, 10:39:43 am »

I’m caught up, joth and silver looks strongly like town v town.


vote: datswan
Their “woah lots going on” feels like scum surprised by the amount of discussion vs town. Town is likely to be excited and specific versus scum who would be general and dismissive.

This as well seems a little forced
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #113 on: December 14, 2018, 10:41:11 am »

oh, caught up. I thought there's much more, don't know why. I sense a lot of undercover things by many players, that's cool, but talking about them would ruin it. This is really quite a lineup.

I think I'll stick to my mcmcsalot vote making it less random. Also eager to see what Robz is going to present this D1
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #114 on: December 14, 2018, 10:43:51 am »

I will be strongly VLA from 30th to 2 (though will be posting) and less VLA till 9th, then no VLA at all
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #115 on: December 14, 2018, 10:48:43 am »

Also, I should officially say now that the game is going: I will be V/LA from December 20th to December 29th, on my honeymoon in Germany. There may be a few times I can check in, but the priority has to be quality time with the wife! Hopefully, based on the schedule, some portion of that time will be night, which should mitigate the impact.
Cool! Where in Germany will you be?
Munich! I'm open to sightseeing suggestions via PM. :)
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #116 on: December 14, 2018, 10:51:21 am »


That said, Faust is scum here. Meta/serious vote.

vote: faust

What makes you say that? I was reading slight town on faust.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #117 on: December 14, 2018, 11:08:40 am »

I’m caught up, joth and silver looks strongly like town v town.
Can you explain what gives you this impression?

It is a semantic argument where both players are kind of restating their own opinions without addressing/breaking down the other persons argument which I think is towny. Scum argues with the intent of painting the other player as scummy and they are arguing to get to a point of information.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #118 on: December 14, 2018, 11:09:12 am »

I’m caught up, joth and silver looks strongly like town v town.


vote: datswan
Their “woah lots going on” feels like scum surprised by the amount of discussion vs town. Town is likely to be excited and specific versus scum who would be general and dismissive.

This as well seems a little forced

But do you disagree with my thought?
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #119 on: December 14, 2018, 11:15:41 am »

I’m caught up, joth and silver looks strongly like town v town.


vote: datswan
Their “woah lots going on” feels like scum surprised by the amount of discussion vs town. Town is likely to be excited and specific versus scum who would be general and dismissive.

This as well seems a little forced

But do you disagree with my thought?

I do, actually. There was a lot of posts, when he came, No matter what alignment a person is, they could say woah it's a lot of posts for numerous reasons. Why would scum be surprised about the amount of townies discussion? There's more town people than there's scums. Even given that town would be more specific which is also not really true, or it would be really easy to catch scums.

All in all looks like you tried to develop a read out of nowhere
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #120 on: December 14, 2018, 12:00:18 pm »

Mcmc is doing his "I am town" analysis of other players, which is good. It means he's town!
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #121 on: December 14, 2018, 12:00:38 pm »

Look at me, starting conversations of my own volition. I think I should just get the MVP nod right now.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #122 on: December 14, 2018, 01:46:23 pm »

Look at me, starting conversations of my own volition. I think I should just get the MVP nod right now.

It feels weird not scumreading you and it's making me uncomfortable.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #123 on: December 14, 2018, 08:05:29 pm »


That said, Faust is scum here. Meta/serious vote.

vote: faust

What makes you say that? I was reading slight town on faust.

A “slight town” reading on Faust is exactly what scum!faust exudes, actually.

Also, I think that while he can always be abrasive, there town!abrasive and scum!abrasive modes that he can’t necessarily control.

I also generally pay attention to how many “?” he has in his posts. The more the scummmier.
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Re: M120: Czech Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #124 on: December 14, 2018, 08:15:01 pm »

We really have to give Faust a day 1 pass, at any rate. Let’s not do scum’s job for them. If he’s alive tomorrow—something that quite literally almost never happens—I’ll reconsider.
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