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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1125 on: November 28, 2018, 07:28:17 pm »

Vote: EFHW

I did some re-reading and stuff but not very much came out of it.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1126 on: November 28, 2018, 08:13:07 pm »

I'm just having trouble figuring out how I can be scummy but the post towny. If you think I might be legit scumhunting, wouldn't that weaken your scumread on me? Cheerfully voting for me and calling the post not scummy feels like a real contradiction.

The effort put into the post itself did slightly weaken my SR on you. This was due to the fact that he content itself I was against, but just because I disagree with it doesn't mean it MUST be skummy.  When the IC jumped on, that was that was an unbiased conf!town outsider agreeing with my thoughts. So yeah, I "happily" jumped on.

However, more importantly, you have over 130 posts this game. Even if this singular post was the "towniest that ever towned" type of post... I still, as I stated, would of thought you were skum. The fact that you are jumping to question to question regarding meaningless details and ignoring my responses along the way kind of just solidifies my opinion.
I was looking to see if you are scum. But I don't think hyper would have bussed you. So, yeah.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1127 on: November 28, 2018, 08:18:35 pm »

Awaclus has taken a stand on me. That makes his flip a bit more helpful, and mine, too, I guess.

vote: Awaclus.

If I thought fang was going to flip scum, I'd be fine with being lynched and being IC tomorrow. But even though I convinced myself for a short time that he was scum, I think I don't really believe that he is.

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1128 on: November 28, 2018, 11:28:07 pm »

Deadline is in 15 hours btw everyone.
I am gonna do some stuff now, then sleep... but I will be on for 3 hours+ up to DL.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1129 on: November 28, 2018, 11:38:15 pm »

Reread WCD, and I just don't see a WCD/Hypercube team.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1130 on: November 28, 2018, 11:49:12 pm »

Since there aren't many posts by Awaclus, with VCA he ended D1 on mcmc instead of Robz (+ for off town); he was on WCD instead of hypercube (- for being off scum); he was the first to park his vote on fang and then disappear for most of the day, never moving his vote as the wagon built up and put him on guillotine, so if fang flips scum, I'd feel a bitter better about Awaclus being town (ignoring how strong I'd feel about EFHW being scum anyway) unless he decided he was better off busing and going it alone.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1131 on: November 29, 2018, 12:01:56 am »

Reread mcmc. Still think he's town.  Rational, and even though I didn't agree with everything he said during the game and has a couple moments where his reads were now clearly wrong (he scumread Space pretty hard), they sounded like they were usually actually built on cases more than what some other people have done this game, so it seems like he had genuinely been scumhunting rather than just manipulating. I could re-evaluate that if fang flips town, cuz he was pretty vocal in pushing a fang/EFHW partner narrative that I actually didn't remember. He actually tentatively called it D1.  Probably not a good lynch for today, although if he was actually going to be more active like earlier in the game, he would make a good IC if he was on the chopping block with scum!fang and town!mcmc.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1132 on: November 29, 2018, 12:07:15 am »

So I have a meeting for the few hours leading right up to the deadline, and I hate mornings in general, so I can't promise I'll be up in time to spend time on here before it, so I guess I have to Vote: EFHW now.  Since I do think fang is going to flip scum, I'm fine still going with EFHW for today because I think she would actually make a really good IC tomorrow if she's town.  She's been obviously polarizing this game, and it's likely affected how open some people (self included) are to her theories, so being able to confidently listen tomorrow in the event I'm wrong about that partnership is worth doing this today rather than waiting. Besides, noone else really stuck out as super scummy after rereading, so I don't have anyone else that I'd rather put on guillotine today anyway.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1133 on: November 29, 2018, 02:31:17 am »

So I have a meeting for the few hours leading right up to the deadline, and I hate mornings in general, so I can't promise I'll be up in time to spend time on here before it, so I guess I have to Vote: EFHW now.  Since I do think fang is going to flip scum, I'm fine still going with EFHW for today because I think she would actually make a really good IC tomorrow if she's town.  She's been obviously polarizing this game, and it's likely affected how open some people (self included) are to her theories, so being able to confidently listen tomorrow in the event I'm wrong about that partnership is worth doing this today rather than waiting. Besides, noone else really stuck out as super scummy after rereading, so I don't have anyone else that I'd rather put on guillotine today anyway.
I agree with most of this.
I think EFHW is scum and if I'm wrong then hopefully she can be a good IC for us tomorrow.
Vote: EFHW
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1134 on: November 29, 2018, 02:51:25 am »

Only if fang is scum.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #1135 on: November 29, 2018, 03:06:14 am »

Vote count 4.4

EFHW (4): DatSwan, Awaclus, Joseph2302, Dylan32
Awaclus (1): EFHW
Not voting (4): WestCoastDidds, mcmcsalot, pingpongsam, infangthief

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1136 on: November 29, 2018, 03:44:31 am »

Request prod on PPS
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #1137 on: November 29, 2018, 03:45:56 am »

Vote count 4.4

EFHW (3): DatSwan, Awaclus, Joseph2302
Awaclus (1): EFHW
Not voting (5): Dylan32, WestCoastDidds, mcmcsalot, pingpongsam, infangthief

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LaLight, I believe Dylan is also voting for EFHW.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1138 on: November 29, 2018, 03:53:18 am »

So as much as it would have been nice for the vig to have been able to shoot me today and cut through all of the 'if fang is scum, if fang is town' talk... I actually think it would be even more useful tomorrow.
I won't be around, but if EFHW's on the block and you don't know her alignment, that's going to be rough.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #1139 on: November 29, 2018, 04:07:05 am »

Vote count 4.4

EFHW (3): DatSwan, Awaclus, Joseph2302
Awaclus (1): EFHW
Not voting (5): Dylan32, WestCoastDidds, mcmcsalot, pingpongsam, infangthief

infangthief is on the guillotine.
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LaLight, I believe Dylan is also voting for EFHW.

Fixed, thank you.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1140 on: November 29, 2018, 06:14:39 am »

Go on, vote: EFHW. Sorry EFHW.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1141 on: November 29, 2018, 06:16:18 am »

Damn. Hope she’s scum but after today not so sure. Had a dream about the game last night, probably while being prodded. McMc and Awaclus were the scums.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1142 on: November 29, 2018, 06:18:41 am »

It started raining and I was getting wet out here on the guillotine.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1143 on: November 29, 2018, 06:24:01 am »

Good morning....

That was the hammer, then? I think so. Well, I’m interested in seeing the flip. But the longer Lalight takes to see it, the better. 5 am is too early for a deadline in my book!
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1144 on: November 29, 2018, 06:42:12 am »

Thread Locked

Good morning....

That was the hammer, then? I think so. Well, I’m interested in seeing the flip. But the longer Lalight takes to see it, the better. 5 am is too early for a deadline in my book!

Sorry.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #1145 on: November 29, 2018, 06:43:04 am »

Vote count 4.final

EFHW (5): DatSwan, Awaclus, Joseph2302, Dylan32, infangthief
Awaclus (1): EFHW
Not voting (3): WestCoastDidds, mcmcsalot, pingpongsam

EFHW is on the guillotine.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D4!)
« Reply #1146 on: November 29, 2018, 06:45:13 am »

infangthief was lynched. He was Town Doctor, a Mafia Lengthy Roleblocker.

Night 4 starts now and ends in 48 hours, 1st of December, 7am FT.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #1147 on: December 01, 2018, 10:44:21 am »

pingpongsam was killed. They was Mafia Roleblocker, a Town Impatient Vigilante


Day 5 starts now!

Vote count 5.0

Not voting (7): Dylan32, DatSwan, Joseph2302, Awaclus, WestCoastDidds, EFHW, mcmcsalot

EFHW is on the guillotine.
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day 5 ends Saturday, 8th of December, at 7am

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D5!)
« Reply #1148 on: December 01, 2018, 11:56:57 am »


Its always a little sad to be doing the dance of awesome scum lynching in my living room all alone. Two days later my enthusiasm has waned, but I am still pretty pumped that Fang flipped scum. Bye, PPS! You'll be missed. I'm also glad to know that EFHW is town.

As far as the interaction between Hyper and Fang, here is what I saw as relevant:

Scum one Hyper

449- says it would be nice to have Swan around more
464 vote space

D2
Votes EFHW for hopping around between Robz and WCD at end of D1
553 says he need to reread fang, seems scummy but was town before
576 votes efhw
656 Vote swan
682- says he will not vote fang
720- votes WCD (as a response to 718, this is the beginning exchange where he gets lynched)

And then his buddy Fang

331 Defends chairs/hyper
351 Vote Joseph
365 starts buddying efhw
last person get on Robz wagon

D2
581 WCD reread
627 takes Swan to task for the logic of his Joseph vote
632 buddy EFHW some more
647 votes DatSwan
649 votes WCD (at its largest, this wagon was Hyper, Fang, Awaclus, and EFHW)
729- tries to stop the Hyper wagon (from an outside angle) by arguing my reasons for moving off EFHW are specious.

D3
Early day 3- Hyper dies
862- defends EFHW
863- throws shade on DatSwan
885- won't lynch Joseph
887- responds to Mcmc questions
932- vote Awaclus
958- Says EFW is town
1009- says his scum pool is Awa, DatSwan, Dylan, Mcmc, votes DatSwan

D4 (on guillotine)
1075 Votes awaclus
1082 Votes WCD
1121 Unvotes WCD
1137 corrects LL to make sure EFHW is at L-1
1140 Hammers EFHW (Her wagon is EFHW (5): DatSwan, Awaclus, Joseph2302, Dylan32, infangthief)

From this, it looks like DatSwan, WCD, and Awaclus were getting the most votes from them so I am putting them aside for now. I appreciated Dylan's interactions in D4. At the final votes he was on EFHW (D1), Fang (solo vote D2), Fang lynch (3rd of 5 votes D3), EFHW (D4). The fang votes have him in the town camp for me.

Joseph gets a vote from Hyper but is defended by Fang. At the final votes he was on Robz (D1), Hyper lynch (5th of 7 votes D2), EFHW (D3), EFHW mislynch (3rd of 5 D4).  His vote was critical to the hyper wagon, but he seems more town than not to me.

Which leaves, Mcmcsalot. There is very little interaction between the scum with Mcmc, and since he spent most of the game on EFHW, I'd like to hear how is is thinking about things now, and what you all are thinking about him.



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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D5!)
« Reply #1149 on: December 01, 2018, 12:12:51 pm »

I did a different VCA, using Space's data. This is just the data, no conclusions yet:

Day 2 - 7 needed to lynch

WCD: fang and hyper were both on her from 720-792. Her wagon maxed out at 5 at 740 (Joseph joined).

Dylan stayed on fang for all of Day 2.

Joseph voted EFHW and WCD for most of Day 2. 744 he moved to hyper (6th on wagon) and stayed there.

mcmc stayed on EFHW all day 2.

Awaclus voted Dylan at 601 (2nd on wagon). at 722 he joined fang, hyper and EFHW on WCD (4th on wagon). Didn't move again.

DatSwan voted fang at 552 (3rd on wagon). at 595 he moved to Joseph (1st on wagon). 738 moved to hyper, 4th on wagon.
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