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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #925 on: November 15, 2018, 06:02:28 pm »

For my bourbon-loving friends...this weekend I’m going to the Garrison Brothers distillery where we help with the bottling and labeling. Fingers crossed for awesome!

Swan isn’t contributing much, but when he does it feels town. Same with Dylan. I’m interested in others reads of them.

My plan for while I’m gone is to read EFHW and Fang more carefully.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #926 on: November 15, 2018, 06:06:22 pm »

Sorry, work has been crazy this week.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #927 on: November 15, 2018, 08:38:33 pm »

Sorry, work has been crazy this week.

Same here, should come up for air early after noon tomorrow.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #928 on: November 16, 2018, 04:14:11 am »

For my bourbon-loving friends...this weekend I’m going to the Garrison Brothers distillery where we help with the bottling and labeling. Fingers crossed for awesome!

Swan isn’t contributing much, but when he does it feels town. Same with Dylan. I’m interested in others reads of them.

My plan for while I’m gone is to read EFHW and Fang more carefully.

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1) Totally fair I have been playing catch up all game.
2) Do you live in TX? Have you been there before? It is AMAZING!! I did a brief marketing consultation stint with a company that GBD contracted a while ago and they brought us out and gave us a tour and it is just so freeking cool! You for sure are gonna have a good time.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #929 on: November 16, 2018, 04:25:41 am »

yeah so brief re read on 2.7 and its finding combined with Space having no result on them puts them at unlynchable status for me today. Just stating because they were previously put in my potential lynch pool.

Nothing crazy in the re read (before someone asks)... just nothing damning either.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #930 on: November 16, 2018, 04:32:54 am »

@fang: Have you played mafia other places?
No. Well, a few games of real life mafia 15 years ago, if that counts.

Well this is more indicative of fang defending efhw as a partner or at least coached scum!fang when it comes to the idea that fang could be buddying efhw to look like a partner on purpose.

... I mean or it could be skum!fang being coached by anyone.... why does it have to be EFHW? EFHW could just be inquiring as town.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #931 on: November 16, 2018, 06:23:45 am »

Finished my reread of EFHW. Got some questions to do with end of day 2:

1.
I think EFHW has continued to be very reasonable, on the whole.

But I think this could do with some more explanation:
Scum!me would have voted WCD.
I should have said would have stayed on WCD. I agree with DatSwan's conclusion that WCD is town. Scum!me would have been happy on her wagon.
Are you saying that scum!you would have been happy staying on WCD while your partner hypercube went on to be lynched?

2.
Though at the cost of quasi- IC'ing Space. I have to recheck the setup, but from memory I  think only scum have targeting roles and their incentives are set up to have each of them target someone. Why didn't you tell us your result sooner?
I wish I had thought of this sooner.
Why?

3.
Damn, okay. I'm the tracker.

If we're going to let the hyper wagon fall apart, at least lynch me instead. That gets us a D3 IC, plus e who I tracked the first night.

I think hyper's choice of naming me as his target was a little too convenient, so there's a decent chance they're rolecopped me and I'm dead tonight anyway.
What do you think of the comment Space made about rolecopping?
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #932 on: November 16, 2018, 12:07:52 pm »

Vote: Awaclus

Early day 2 I did a reread and concluded that he'd been very reasonable, helpful even, on day 1. More so than in NM13, when he was town. So yes, town. And I think a few people stated they found him towny.

Since then... next to nothing. Get a towny read and then no need to engage any more? Sounds like an effective scum play.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #933 on: November 16, 2018, 12:50:12 pm »

Vote: Awaclus

Early day 2 I did a reread and concluded that he'd been very reasonable, helpful even, on day 1. More so than in NM13, when he was town. So yes, town. And I think a few people stated they found him towny.

Since then... next to nothing. Get a towny read and then no need to engage any more? Sounds like an effective scum play.

Awaclus is Awaclus. The case on him needs to show partnering with scum or strongly suspected scum, I think.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #934 on: November 16, 2018, 12:50:59 pm »

That said Awaclus is a busser. Takes one to know one, lol.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #935 on: November 16, 2018, 12:52:24 pm »

In answer to fang:
1. I had lots of cover for being on that wagon. I had expressed scum reads on WCD and would be safer from suspicion on that wagon than on any other besides Hyper's.
2. I would have suggested that the tracker claim regardless of result bc their target would be close to IC.
3. I see how their theory about being rolecopped led them to claim. I don't see much motivation for hyper to use his rolecop target as his fakeclaim target, though.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #936 on: November 16, 2018, 12:55:10 pm »

3. Continued ... It was his bad luck that Space was tracker and was online. I figured he was hoping the real tracker would be away and unable to counterclaim.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #937 on: November 16, 2018, 01:03:04 pm »

Vote: Awaclus

Early day 2 I did a reread and concluded that he'd been very reasonable, helpful even, on day 1. More so than in NM13, when he was town. So yes, town. And I think a few people stated they found him towny.

Since then... next to nothing. Get a towny read and then no need to engage any more? Sounds like an effective scum play.

I'd like to point out that by "since then...", you mean "since Renaissance was released".
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D2!)
« Reply #938 on: November 16, 2018, 04:19:59 pm »

Vote count 3.2

EFHW (3): mcmcsalot, Joseph2302, Dylan32
pingpongsam (1): pingpongsam
infangthief (1): Awaclus
Awaclus (1): infangthief
Not voting (4): 2.71828....., DatSwan, WestCoastDidds, EFHW

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #939 on: November 17, 2018, 07:57:18 am »

Vote: Dylan
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #940 on: November 17, 2018, 08:24:29 am »

Looking at the last vote count I can’t help but think Awaclus and fang have distancing votes on each other while town does the dirty work.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #941 on: November 17, 2018, 05:11:01 pm »

In answer to fang:
1. I had lots of cover for being on that wagon. I had expressed scum reads on WCD and would be safer from suspicion on that wagon than on any other besides Hyper's.
2. I would have suggested that the tracker claim regardless of result bc their target would be close to IC.
3. I see how their theory about being rolecopped led them to claim. I don't see much motivation for hyper to use his rolecop target as his fakeclaim target, though.

You are saying some bizarre things. Especially your answer to number 2.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #942 on: November 17, 2018, 06:01:29 pm »

In answer to fang:
1. I had lots of cover for being on that wagon. I had expressed scum reads on WCD and would be safer from suspicion on that wagon than on any other besides Hyper's.
2. I would have suggested that the tracker claim regardless of result bc their target would be close to IC.
3. I see how their theory about being rolecopped led them to claim. I don't see much motivation for hyper to use his rolecop target as his fakeclaim target, though.

You are saying some bizarre things. Especially your answer to number 2.
Is that a question?
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #943 on: November 17, 2018, 07:03:42 pm »

I think fang could be trying to set up a switch to my wagon. PPS, do you actually have scumreads on fang and Awaclus?
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #944 on: November 17, 2018, 07:34:43 pm »

This is pretty much a prod dodge, as it is the weekend. Did a Joseph re read though in that time though. Nothing came from it that I haven't already said - pretty much now that we know Hypercube was skum, I find it unlikely that Joseph is also skum.

Additionally, I have re-enforced my opinion that if EFHW is skum, Joseph is probably town. And I am thinking we find skum in EFHW at this point, so Joseph is pretty much off my list.

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #945 on: November 17, 2018, 07:35:46 pm »

I am gonna finish my last 2 reads tomorrow, I will post what I find relevant on Monday sometime.

I don't want to put an L-1 out there this early, but you can consider my vote on EFHW.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #946 on: November 17, 2018, 09:57:23 pm »

Voting for EFHW is silly. I know I am already any IC, but when EFHW flips town I will be even more conf!town.

Someone please just make a case better than "EFHW is playing well"

Like, just read Dylan. 3rd on EFHW, feels the need to "build a case" and is just so conveniently voting a popular wagon. So scummy. If Dylan flips town I will consider voting efhw tomorrow.

Also, several drinks in (lost count).  More later
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #947 on: November 17, 2018, 11:28:25 pm »

I lied don't have anything else for tonight. I just strongly object to lynching EFHW
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #948 on: November 18, 2018, 09:32:10 am »

Good morning, folks!

Swan, I am in Texas! About an hour away from GBD between San Antonio and Austin. I had been there before, but nit to help with production. It was awesome. The owner was there yesterday just hanging out and chatting. So cool. Plus, bourbon.

So, this morning I have been rereading the interactions with Hypercube. Over the course of chairs/hyper he voted for PPS, EFHW, WCD, Space, Swan, and Joseph with some degree of regularity. I think as a new scum, it’s likely that set of folks is town.

He doesn’t vote for Dylan, Awaclus, e, or Fang much or engage with them. So, I’m thinking about that set of folks more seriously. I need to read more carefully, but for right now vote: Dylan
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D3!)
« Reply #949 on: November 18, 2018, 11:19:46 am »

I never got an answer to this:

Why isn't e on the probably town list?

What has fang done to be on your would lynch list?

What have I done to rate a "really want to lynch"?

You just made a string of posts, mostly calling Datswan and Joseph scummy. Then you townread them and apparently randomly scum read me and fang. Really wanting to lynch me is pretty strong feelings. Based on what? There has to be more than my "all alone as town" comment.

You and fang were scummy earlier, and nothing has really changed my mind.
But how were we scummy? PPS and mcmc have their reasons (that are wrong, but they're putting some thought into it). You just say "you're scummy". Do you have details in mind or are you using them for cover and hopping on a popular wagon?
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