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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #275 on: October 31, 2018, 09:51:21 am »

E also seems to be trying to stay in the background. I think most of the people who have been doing a lot of talking (pps, EFHW, infang) have been doing so from a towny perspective.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #276 on: October 31, 2018, 10:02:43 am »

Would you like to tell me what your case is, Awaclus?

No.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #277 on: October 31, 2018, 10:06:15 am »

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #278 on: October 31, 2018, 10:07:56 am »

E also seems to be trying to stay in the background. I think most of the people who have been doing a lot of talking (pps, EFHW, infang) have been doing so from a towny perspective.

It feels like we are playing with like 7 people instead of 14. There are definitely some folks who’ve had very little interaction. They respond to a prod and then disappear again. E, robz, mcmc, Joseph, Dylan, Swan, and Space all seem to me to be on the fringes, perhaps allowing us to just pick on one another.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #279 on: October 31, 2018, 10:12:32 am »

E also seems to be trying to stay in the background. I think most of the people who have been doing a lot of talking (pps, EFHW, infang) have been doing so from a towny perspective.

It feels like we are playing with like 7 people instead of 14. There are definitely some folks who’ve had very little interaction. They respond to a prod and then disappear again. E, robz, mcmc, Joseph, Dylan, Swan, and Space all seem to me to be on the fringes, perhaps allowing us to just pick on one another.
Upon cursory investigation, at least 2 of those actually have more posts than you...
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #280 on: October 31, 2018, 10:21:44 am »

E also seems to be trying to stay in the background. I think most of the people who have been doing a lot of talking (pps, EFHW, infang) have been doing so from a towny perspective.

It feels like we are playing with like 7 people instead of 14. There are definitely some folks who’ve had very little interaction. They respond to a prod and then disappear again. E, robz, mcmc, Joseph, Dylan, Swan, and Space all seem to me to be on the fringes, perhaps allowing us to just pick on one another.
Upon cursory investigation, at least 2 of those actually have more posts than you...

Kind of weird of her to pick out some people who have been posting a decent amount for her arbitrary 7, but to leave me/chairs out of it.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #281 on: October 31, 2018, 10:28:07 am »

Vote: WCD
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #282 on: October 31, 2018, 11:14:27 am »

And on that note... where is Joseph? A couple of jokes, a few questions about win conditions and then... nothing. He's had more interaction with the mod than with other players.
Joseph, look, I'm still standing by you being town, but if you leave your only contribution for the day as asking about win cons, my view may start to change. My reasons for thinking you are town are only based on things which could be faked as scum.
Joseph is around. I've been keeping up but not that much to say
Was it hard to find an answer to faust's question?
Joseph, I'm trying to work out what to make of your continued avoidance of faust's question.
Like, I'm not even really that interested in the answer, I just find it very weird that you've been 'keeping up' but neglecting to answer a question that seemed pretty central to your town claim.
If you really honestly missed seeing the question, it's at #154.
Which question? Must have missed it....
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #283 on: October 31, 2018, 11:27:46 am »

Meh. Vote: WCD
I can go along with this. vote: WCD
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #284 on: October 31, 2018, 11:29:40 am »

As for chairs/hypercube, I don't agree with the cases made by Joseph (#129) and PPS (#238). Would you like to tell me what your case is, Awaclus?

What, exactly, do you disagree with? My case is concise, irrefutable, and targets precisely the sort of play we don't wish to see.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #285 on: October 31, 2018, 11:45:45 am »

And on that note... where is Joseph? A couple of jokes, a few questions about win conditions and then... nothing. He's had more interaction with the mod than with other players.
Joseph, look, I'm still standing by you being town, but if you leave your only contribution for the day as asking about win cons, my view may start to change. My reasons for thinking you are town are only based on things which could be faked as scum.
Joseph is around. I've been keeping up but not that much to say
Was it hard to find an answer to faust's question?
Joseph, I'm trying to work out what to make of your continued avoidance of faust's question.
Like, I'm not even really that interested in the answer, I just find it very weird that you've been 'keeping up' but neglecting to answer a question that seemed pretty central to your town claim.
If you really honestly missed seeing the question, it's at #154.
Which question? Must have missed it....
Look it up. #154.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #286 on: October 31, 2018, 12:33:06 pm »

E also seems to be trying to stay in the background. I think most of the people who have been doing a lot of talking (pps, EFHW, infang) have been doing so from a towny perspective.

I agree with this.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #287 on: October 31, 2018, 12:42:44 pm »

E also seems to be trying to stay in the background. I think most of the people who have been doing a lot of talking (pps, EFHW, infang) have been doing so from a towny perspective.

It feels like we are playing with like 7 people instead of 14. There are definitely some folks who’ve had very little interaction. They respond to a prod and then disappear again. E, robz, mcmc, Joseph, Dylan, Swan, and Space all seem to me to be on the fringes, perhaps allowing us to just pick on one another.
Upon cursory investigation, at least 2 of those actually have more posts than you...

Kind of weird of her to pick out some people who have been posting a decent amount for her arbitrary 7, but to leave me/chairs out of it.

I was leaving you out of it because of the replacement, and chairs obvi had real life issues.

As for the others who have had more posts than I have, fair enough, but they are concentrated in time, not over an arc of the week.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #288 on: October 31, 2018, 12:44:46 pm »

Meh. Vote: WCD
I can go along with this. vote: WCD

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #289 on: October 31, 2018, 01:11:13 pm »

E also seems to be trying to stay in the background. I think most of the people who have been doing a lot of talking (pps, EFHW, infang) have been doing so from a towny perspective.

It feels like we are playing with like 7 people instead of 14. There are definitely some folks who’ve had very little interaction. They respond to a prod and then disappear again. E, robz, mcmc, Joseph, Dylan, Swan, and Space all seem to me to be on the fringes, perhaps allowing us to just pick on one another.
Upon cursory investigation, at least 2 of those actually have more posts than you...

My list might well have some inaccuracies (I'm on my phone so limited searching ability) but my question is, is my impression correct? Does it feel like everyone is playing? More to the point, is that normal?

My whole purpose in continuing to play a game that I am not very good at is to learn how to do it better. It seems like being around infrequently and/or randomly would be better for scum. Is that right?
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #290 on: October 31, 2018, 01:39:10 pm »

I was leaving you out of it because of the replacement, and chairs obvi had real life issues.

As for the others who have had more posts than I have, fair enough, but they are concentrated in time, not over an arc of the week.

It struck me a bit like you chose the number 7, then made a list of seven people to call out. That is, it seems contrived rather than an actual analysis of the state of the game.

My list might well have some inaccuracies (I'm on my phone so limited searching ability) but my question is, is my impression correct? Does it feel like everyone is playing? More to the point, is that normal?

My whole purpose in continuing to play a game that I am not very good at is to learn how to do it better. It seems like being around infrequently and/or randomly would be better for scum. Is that right?

The level of activity seems fairly close to the other two D1's I've played here. When I reread it seemed like everyone was present in some form other than Robz.

I'm not what your second point is getting at. Are you asking us if scum!WCD should stop hanging around the thread?
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #291 on: October 31, 2018, 01:44:09 pm »


The level of activity seems fairly close to the other two D1's I've played here. When I reread it seemed like everyone was present in some form other than Robz.

I'm not what your second point is getting at. Are you asking us if scum!WCD should stop hanging around the thread?

But you said e seemed to be lurking, no? It really feels like everyone is engaged?

Ha! All I know about its being townie. I am pretty sure that if I ever do have to be scum that I will undoubtedly overcompensate.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #292 on: October 31, 2018, 01:49:07 pm »

I was leaving you out of it because of the replacement, and chairs obvi had real life issues.

As for the others who have had more posts than I have, fair enough, but they are concentrated in time, not over an arc of the week.

It struck me a bit like you chose the number 7, then made a list of seven people to call out. That is, it seems contrived rather than an actual analysis of the state of the game.


Oh, yeah. That is definitely fair. I wasn't really analyzing anything in particular. Just speaking off the cuff about my impression that it seems like only a handful of people are playing. I was trying capture my sense that the folks who were engaged just kept scrutinizing one another, but (obviously) choose my words too casually since the spirit of my comment is being ignored.
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« Reply #293 on: October 31, 2018, 01:51:36 pm »


The level of activity seems fairly close to the other two D1's I've played here. When I reread it seemed like everyone was present in some form other than Robz.

I'm not what your second point is getting at. Are you asking us if scum!WCD should stop hanging around the thread?

But you said e seemed to be lurking, no? It really feels like everyone is engaged?

Ha! All I know about its being townie. I am pretty sure that if I ever do have to be scum that I will undoubtedly overcompensate.

My impression of E was that he's maintaining some level of posting activity while not really contributing much to the discussion.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #294 on: October 31, 2018, 01:54:31 pm »

I was leaving you out of it because of the replacement, and chairs obvi had real life issues.

As for the others who have had more posts than I have, fair enough, but they are concentrated in time, not over an arc of the week.

It struck me a bit like you chose the number 7, then made a list of seven people to call out. That is, it seems contrived rather than an actual analysis of the state of the game.


Oh, yeah. That is definitely fair. I wasn't really analyzing anything in particular. Just speaking off the cuff about my impression that it seems like only a handful of people are playing. I was trying capture my sense that the folks who were engaged just kept scrutinizing one another, but (obviously) choose my words too casually since the spirit of my comment is being ignored.

Hmm, I don't find myself making extensive lists casually all that often.

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« Reply #295 on: October 31, 2018, 02:13:02 pm »

Hmm, I don't find myself making extensive lists casually all that often.

vote: WCD

That doesn’t seem like super compelling reason to lynch me, but it’s more reason than any of the other votes which are just “meh”, so I’ve got that going for me. Which is nice.
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« Reply #296 on: October 31, 2018, 03:01:00 pm »

E also seems to be trying to stay in the background. I think most of the people who have been doing a lot of talking (pps, EFHW, infang) have been doing so from a towny perspective.

It feels like we are playing with like 7 people instead of 14. There are definitely some folks who’ve had very little interaction. They respond to a prod and then disappear again. E, robz, mcmc, Joseph, Dylan, Swan, and Space all seem to me to be on the fringes, perhaps allowing us to just pick on one another.
Upon cursory investigation, at least 2 of those actually have more posts than you...

My list might well have some inaccuracies (I'm on my phone so limited searching ability) but my question is, is my impression correct? Does it feel like everyone is playing? More to the point, is that normal?

My whole purpose in continuing to play a game that I am not very good at is to learn how to do it better. It seems like being around infrequently and/or randomly would be better for scum. Is that right?

Responding specifically to italics: This just depends on the person. Some people are very good at being very active, controlling the discussion, and actively manipulating town as scum, while others do what you are suggesting and try to blend into the background and only post the bare minimum. I tend to operate under the assumption that most people's activity level is a result of irl business and so I don't look at activity level as being a worthwhile starting point for a case. A point in a more comprehensive case, sure, but not the primary one, outside of extreme cases.

I'll be back on later this evening with a lot more free time to reread the last few pages.
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« Reply #297 on: October 31, 2018, 03:01:58 pm »

E also seems to be trying to stay in the background. I think most of the people who have been doing a lot of talking (pps, EFHW, infang) have been doing so from a towny perspective.

It feels like we are playing with like 7 people instead of 14. There are definitely some folks who’ve had very little interaction. They respond to a prod and then disappear again. E, robz, mcmc, Joseph, Dylan, Swan, and Space all seem to me to be on the fringes, perhaps allowing us to just pick on one another.
Upon cursory investigation, at least 2 of those actually have more posts than you...

My list might well have some inaccuracies (I'm on my phone so limited searching ability) but my question is, is my impression correct? Does it feel like everyone is playing? More to the point, is that normal?

My whole purpose in continuing to play a game that I am not very good at is to learn how to do it better. It seems like being around infrequently and/or randomly would be better for scum. Is that right?

Responding specifically to italics: This just depends on the person. Some people are very good at being very active, controlling the discussion, and actively manipulating town as scum, while others do what you are suggesting and try to blend into the background and only post the bare minimum. I tend to operate under the assumption that most people's activity level is a result of irl business and so I don't look at activity level as being a worthwhile starting point for a case. A point in a more comprehensive case, sure, but not the primary one, outside of extreme cases.

I'll be back on later this evening with a lot more free time to reread the last few pages.

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #298 on: October 31, 2018, 03:08:41 pm »

That doesn’t seem like super compelling reason to lynch me, but it’s more reason than any of the other votes which are just “meh”, so I’ve got that going for me. Which is nice.

I have a more compelling reason to lynch you.
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« Reply #299 on: October 31, 2018, 03:14:25 pm »

That doesn’t seem like super compelling reason to lynch me, but it’s more reason than any of the other votes which are just “meh”, so I’ve got that going for me. Which is nice.

I have a more compelling reason to lynch you.

I know better than to ask you to share. But you told me that the priority is to lynch scum. If that’s true, then I’m a bad target. If you’re looking to decrease the number of townies, then lynching me is smart.
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