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Author Topic: M119: Towny Mafia (Game Over!)  (Read 140743 times)

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #125 on: October 27, 2018, 09:34:49 pm »

So here is what I think: Joseph is scum. The whole asking for win conditions stuff doesn't strike me as something Joseph would do usually, but it is a way for him to be active without being very useful and at the same time it is designed to suggest to us that he's oh so townie because he doesn't know scum's win condition.

Vote: Joseph

Occam’s Razor or something. Either he is not so clever, transparent manipulative scum or he had very much the same response I did when reading my role PM that detailed the town wincon that caused me to consider A) what does scum’s look like and B) whether knowledge of town win on could be a towntell. I’m leaning toward the latter.

Also, this looks like standard MO for scum Faust as he uses whatever is handy for smearing as many potential targets as early as possible.

Vote: faust
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #126 on: October 28, 2018, 09:48:38 am »

The EU is abolishing daylight savings time? I had no idea!
I’d much rather stay on DST all year. I like the sun in the evenings in the summer. But y’all are further north so I guess that isn’t as important.

Dylan, I’ve played two newbie games (12 and 13)....we won one and lost another (Chairs and scum!Lalight lynched me while I was at the dentist! The horror!) and then I just played the Dirk Gently game. I was a survivor who didn’t survive. I ask a lot of questions, and suffer mire from a lack of confidence than arrogance. (Scum got Fang lynched in his first game because he was playing well).

I’m off to wine tasting day. So, like Mcmc (Hi! Good to see you!)...drunk ama daytime version is in the offing! Happy Sunday friends!
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #127 on: October 28, 2018, 09:49:01 am »

Voting Faust D1 when we could lynch him later after the lack of NK proves he isn’t scum is scummy. vote: pps

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #128 on: October 28, 2018, 10:51:47 am »

So here is what I think: Joseph is scum. The whole asking for win conditions stuff doesn't strike me as something Joseph would do usually, but it is a way for him to be active without being very useful and at the same time it is designed to suggest to us that he's oh so townie because he doesn't know scum's win condition.

Vote: Joseph
Not true. I didn't notice that they were on the other link.
Genuine mistake
But it should be obvious that I'm town since I knew the town win condition word for word but not the scum one.....
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #129 on: October 28, 2018, 10:52:57 am »

Voting Faust D1 when we could lynch him later after the lack of NK proves he isn’t scum is scummy. vote: pps
Vote: chairs
Seems like you're setting faust up to get guillotined D2
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #130 on: October 28, 2018, 11:33:21 am »

Maybe I'll try being a bit more direct. Pingpongsam, why does Space seem town to you this time?
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #131 on: October 28, 2018, 11:36:26 am »

Also, this looks like standard MO for scum Faust as he uses whatever is handy for smearing as many potential targets as early as possible.
MO is a new one for me.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #132 on: October 28, 2018, 11:52:35 am »

Voting Faust D1 when we could lynch him later after the lack of NK proves he isn’t scum is scummy. vote: pps
Vote: chairs
Seems like you're setting faust up to get guillotined D2

Eh, I was leaning towards D4 if he survives that long since I’d he is town he is incredibly useful (and as such I don’t expect town!faust to survive that long)

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #133 on: October 28, 2018, 11:54:06 am »

There's been a couple of things that seem backwards.

First faust:
Say you have two competing claims. In standard mafia you can just lynch one, if they're scum, lynch the other.
Surely if the first one is scum you don't lynch the other?

Now chairs:
Voting Faust D1 when we could lynch him later after the lack of NK proves he isn’t scum is scummy. vote: pps
How can surviving a night prove that someone isn't scum?

Or is it me who's got it backwards? Anyway, not sure that saying such things is necessarily scummy, just find it a bit odd that we've had two things like that now.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (N0!)
« Reply #134 on: October 28, 2018, 12:00:41 pm »

Vote count 1.1

Joseph2302 (2): SpaceAnemone, faust
Robz888 (1): EFHW
pingpongsam (2): Awaclus, chairs
EFHW (1): Dylan32
Dylan32 (1): mcmcsalot
faust (1): pingpongsam
chairs (1): Joseph2302
Not voting (5): 2.71828....., DatSwan, WestCoastDidds, Robz888, infangthief

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Day 1 ends Friday, 2nd of November, at 10am
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #135 on: October 28, 2018, 12:08:40 pm »

There's been a couple of things that seem backwards.

First faust:
Say you have two competing claims. In standard mafia you can just lynch one, if they're scum, lynch the other.
Surely if the first one is scum you don't lynch the other?

Now chairs:
Voting Faust D1 when we could lynch him later after the lack of NK proves he isn’t scum is scummy. vote: pps
How can surviving a night prove that someone isn't scum?

Or is it me who's got it backwards? Anyway, not sure that saying such things is necessarily scummy, just find it a bit odd that we've had two things like that now.

Faust is an extremely capable player as both Town and Mafia. This frequently leads to him being prime night kill real estate when he is Town in any game where a different strong night kill choice does not exist.

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #136 on: October 28, 2018, 12:13:41 pm »

Vote: chairs
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #137 on: October 28, 2018, 12:14:21 pm »

Infangthief has both things correct.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #138 on: October 28, 2018, 12:52:48 pm »

Infangthief has both things correct.

This comment from Awaclus confused me, since I read fang's post more like two questions than any definitive truth statements. I think he's right about the two things being accidental reversals of what it means, though... the fact I didn't notice just shows how much my reading of this stuff is influenced by the prior belief that certain people post sensible things :-(
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #139 on: October 28, 2018, 01:21:16 pm »

This comment from Awaclus confused me, since I read fang's post more like two questions than any definitive truth statements.

It's a combination of definitive truth statements and asking whether or not the statements are actually true. I answered the question by confirming that they were.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #140 on: October 28, 2018, 03:54:07 pm »

Maybe I'll try being a bit more direct. Pingpongsam, why does Space seem town to you this time?

Gut read only. Mainly, I always think Space is scum and I’m not getting that feel this time. Space is usually way more analytical and buddying with people. They seem pretty much like uninformed town right now though.

MO was short for modus operandi.

Vote: chairs
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #141 on: October 28, 2018, 04:12:13 pm »

Hi everyone.

This setup is actually fairly straightforward in terms of roles. I don't think there anything to be gained by claiming stuff. We want to leave more time than usual for claims at L-1 since there can be no fakeclaims. So anyone who hammers someone without letting them claim should always immediately be the next one up for lynching.

I agree in concept, disagree in saying that person must always be lynched the next day no matter what.  extenuating circumstances exist.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #142 on: October 28, 2018, 04:28:33 pm »

Faust, Awaclus, and mcmc are town by order of confidence.

Joseph and pps both feel scummy.

infangthief also feels like town.

And I am all caught up.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #143 on: October 28, 2018, 04:30:13 pm »

My recommendation is that we should be treating an "on guillotine" player as an "on guillotine" player.

I especially agree with this.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #144 on: October 28, 2018, 05:08:12 pm »

(Scum got Fang lynched in his first game because he was playing well).
Thank you for your kind words. Though I'm not sure that I can claim to have played all that well, given that most of the town wanted my lynch at the end of day 1.
Your posts have reminded me though that I have every intention of being nice in these games, but somehow, I don't know, it's like all the worst comes out of me instead. Anyone else find that?
I'll try harder to be nice. Happy Sunday!
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #145 on: October 28, 2018, 05:16:49 pm »

Maybe I'll try being a bit more direct. Pingpongsam, why does Space seem town to you this time?

Gut read only. Mainly, I always think Space is scum and I’m not getting that feel this time. Space is usually way more analytical and buddying with people. They seem pretty much like uninformed town right now though.

MO was short for modus operandi.

Vote: chairs

Thanks, that's helpful. ooo Latin.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #146 on: October 28, 2018, 05:41:57 pm »

Did I miss something about chairs?
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #147 on: October 28, 2018, 05:52:54 pm »

Maybe I'll try being a bit more direct. Pingpongsam, why does Space seem town to you this time?

Gut read only. Mainly, I always think Space is scum and I’m not getting that feel this time. Space is usually way more analytical and buddying with people. They seem pretty much like uninformed town right now though.
In between your town read post and fang's question,  Space has a bunch of fluffy posts, nothing serious.  Your explanation doesn't fit her play.

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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #148 on: October 28, 2018, 05:54:12 pm »

*their play. Sorry.
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Re: M119: Towny Mafia (D1!)
« Reply #149 on: October 28, 2018, 09:00:57 pm »

I'm back, caught up. Didn't get a lot out of that, ingfangthief seems townie for asking town-ish questions. Joseph, too, for once.
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