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[pingpongsam]

Oh, and Space looks like town for once.

[Awaclus]

Vote: pps

[infangthief]

The main problem with the plan is that scum hunting will be ruined for today.

This.

So you suggest the town should do scum's work for them...?

And this.

I'm convinced. It just seemed worth exploring the implications of the day 1 lynch living longer than the night 1 kill, and faust's reputation for being the night 1 kill seemed a good place to explore it.
I think WCD was totally justified in saying it depended whether faust was up for it or not. That matched my original mindset. But yes, changed my mind now.

We should lynch faust iff we think he's scum.

[infangthief]

Anyway, infang, what do you make of Joseph so far?

I've found some of his posts so far quite interesting. But nothing that I want to pursue there, for now at least. I think he's likely to be town.

[Dylan32]

Hey everybody! Good to be back in a game for the first time in almost a year.

vote: EFHW

infang and WestCoast, nice to meet you guys (well, meet through this mostly anonymous, virtual world in which we find ourselves). If and only if the games are over, how did your first games here on f.ds go for you?

[infangthief]

Oh, and Space looks like town for once.

And I disagree with you there.
Thanks Space for helping me with timezone considerations, so we're '4 or 5' hours ahead. But do you have any game content for us?
I know that's a bit harsh when some people have barely even posted (ooh, ppe hi Dylan!), but still, not quite sure why the absence of content related to the game makes pps think you're towny.

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[infangthief]

Hey everybody! Good to be back in a game for the first time in almost a year.

vote: EFHW

infang and WestCoast, nice to meet you guys (well, meet through this mostly anonymous, virtual world in which we find ourselves). If and only if the games are over, how did your first games here on f.ds go for you?

Hi, good to meet you.

My first day of my first game went like this:
1. I said some things.
2. Several people found me quite towny.
3. I got a bit arrogant.
4. I got a bit lynched.

Hoping that 1 and 2 happen here and 3 and 4 don't...

[mcmcsalot]

Drunk AMA about to hit yall with some early game responses.

[mcmcsalot]

Also Vote: mcmc for lynching me last game

Wait what game was that! it's been too long for me so I have forgotten my last mafia game. Was it a good lynch or a bad one?

[mcmcsalot]

My recommendation is that we should be treating an "on guillotine" player as an "on guillotine" player.

There's a certain point later in the game where they could become an IC though

Because the town win condition is to have 2 mafia dead + 1 on the guillotine.
So if we have 2 mafia dead, if we guillotine someone and the game doesn't end, then they must be town

This is a really gfood point, town points for joseph

[mcmcsalot]

A note should be made on claims and this mechanic: Fakeclaims become viable earlier. Say you have two competing claims. In standard mafia you can just lynch one, if they're scum, lynch the other. Here you lynch one, next Day you don't know whether they are scum. So either you need to wait an additional Day (which is problematic if you enter MyLo that way), or you lynch both for a guaranteeed 1-1 trade.

Also good point, per usual faust points for faust

[mcmcsalot]

I'm 'he', I'm in UK, 4 hours ahead of forum time.

Wait, which UK are you in? I'm in the one that's 5 hours ahead of forum time, at least for today...

I use they/them as a pronoun by preference :-)

Nice to meet you!

Sounds like we're in the same one. My UK is 5 hours ahead at the moment, but 4 hours ahead from tomorrow (Sunday) onwards. Seemed simplest to just say that.

Though an alternative UK sounds nice. I'd consider emigrating.

Nice to meet you too.

wait are there two uk time zones or is this a daylight-savings-time oddity?

[mcmcsalot]

A note should be made on claims and this mechanic: Fakeclaims become viable earlier.

Partly just being a pedant, but why is this important (for town...) to note this here, right now, rather than later?

Space being all spacey, hi space!

[mcmcsalot]

Sounds like we're in the same one. My UK is 5 hours ahead at the moment, but 4 hours ahead from tomorrow (Sunday) onwards. Seemed simplest to just say that.

It doesn't stay at a 4-hour gap for long before forum time changes its clocks to match, though. Possibly 1 calendar week?

I do think it helps to have timezones be considered when thinking about people's play around deadlines. Sometimes I worry about being scumread based on not being active at the deadline if I'm the only player in an EU timezone and it's night for us. We've got faust (Germany) and Awaclus (Finland) here, plus Joseph as another brit, so we're not badly off for now. And of course our mod is in Russia, but as far as I can tell, he needs virtually no sleep and is all-seeing at almost any time of day :-P

Though an alternative UK sounds nice. I'd consider emigrating.

I love my nice little over-educated left-wing bubbles of this UK. Can we detach a few of them and remain in the EU? :-)

I am upset at how uneducated I am, no-one start stating metric computations please

[mcmcsalot]

I have a suggestion, and I might in fact be semi-serious about this.
I understand you have a track record of being killed first night. So how about we lynch you day 1? The set-up says the on-guillotine player cannot be night-killed. So if we lynch you day 1 then that guarantees that we benefit from your insight for day 1 AND day 2.

You'd be ok with that wouldn't you...?

This is just a super bad idea. We should lynch faust iff we think he's scum.

agreed scum points to fang

[mcmcsalot]

Hi again!


Slightly busy weekend with a 10k race I just finished this morning, I will be able to comment on stuff and things probably later today or tomorrow

ooooh look at you and your facny feet what a greeeeat accomplishment...(*stuffs more pasta into face) I used to run 10K's as a warm up!!


*but really I didn't I'm a grat captain and a terrible runner ask the robz

[mcmcsalot]

Hi everyone!

Sorry for getting here late....life and stuff. But definitely not a 10k race of any sort. Anyway, like most, I’ll be more regularly present after the weekend.

Hi, Thief! It’s so good to see you again. I’m glad you’re playing! Like Thief, I’m newish (3 games). I think I’ve played with about half of you now. Unlike Thief, I’m in Texas and a she. And my jokes are always pretty bad.

Yeah, the US goes back to Standard time next weekend, so the 4 hour difference would be short lived. But the alterna UK that stays in the EU sounds like a smashing idea.

I’m 100% not down with lynching Faust to keep him around longer, unless it’s he thinks it’s a good idea.

great points and I think i'm less uneducated about the time situation then I originally thought also Hi WCD!!!

[mcmcsalot]

Hey everybody! Good to be back in a game for the first time in almost a year.

vote: EFHW

infang and WestCoast, nice to meet you guys (well, meet through this mostly anonymous, virtual world in which we find ourselves). If and only if the games are over, how did your first games here on f.ds go for you?

Vote: Dylan for playing the non-informative nice guy scum role who doesn't remember how to intro

[SpaceAnemone]

wait are there two uk time zones or is this a daylight-savings-time oddity?

I was going to respond along the lines of "lol, it's all one timezone" (after all, the british isles are oriented pretty well to minimise their coverage of different longitudes), then I remembered Gibraltar, and did some googling. Turns out we have nine different timezones.

Anyway, mainland UK definitely is all in one zone, and our clocks change from BST (British Summer Time) to GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) tonight, and then for a week we're at FT+4 instead of our usual FT+5, until you guys across the pond catch up.

Also:

Partly just being a pedant, but why is this important (for town...) to note this here, right now, rather than later?

Space being all spacey, hi space!

Good to see you, Mcmc! Was it the word "pedant" that gave me away? :-P

[pingpongsam]

Hey everybody! Good to be back in a game for the first time in almost a year.

vote: EFHW

infang and WestCoast, nice to meet you guys (well, meet through this mostly anonymous, virtual world in which we find ourselves). If and only if the games are over, how did your first games here on f.ds go for you?

Vote: Dylan for playing the non-informative nice guy scum role who doesn't remember how to intro

Vote: Dylan

[SpaceAnemone]

Oh, and Space looks like town for once.

And I disagree with you there.
Thanks Space for helping me with timezone considerations, so we're '4 or 5' hours ahead. But do you have any game content for us?
I know that's a bit harsh when some people have barely even posted (ooh, ppe hi Dylan!), but still, not quite sure why the absence of content related to the game makes pps think you're towny.

PPS was my first ever scumbuddy, and I have a feeling he has correctly scumread me one time since? He's a reads guy in exactly all the ways I'm definitely not. Usually I disagree with him and his strategies totally, but I'll give him and his read a pass this time because it seems good :-P

BTW, I have a posted VLA in effect till Wednesday, so I'm actually rather more present than I'd expected to me!

[Joseph2302]

I'm 'he', I'm in UK, 4 hours ahead of forum time.

Wait, which UK are you in? I'm in the one that's 5 hours ahead of forum time, at least for today...

I use they/them as a pronoun by preference :-)

Nice to meet you!

Sounds like we're in the same one. My UK is 5 hours ahead at the moment, but 4 hours ahead from tomorrow (Sunday) onwards. Seemed simplest to just say that.

Though an alternative UK sounds nice. I'd consider emigrating.

Nice to meet you too.

wait are there two uk time zones or is this a daylight-savings-time oddity?

Daylight savings being different in UK to US

[faust]

Time situation will become more messed up in the future as the EU moves to abolish daylight savings time. I have no idea whether the UK will follow along, and given the current state of affairs I assume noone else does either.

[faust]

Hey everybody! Good to be back in a game for the first time in almost a year.

vote: EFHW

infang and WestCoast, nice to meet you guys (well, meet through this mostly anonymous, virtual world in which we find ourselves). If and only if the games are over, how did your first games here on f.ds go for you?

Hi, good to meet you.

My first day of my first game went like this:
1. I said some things.
2. Several people found me quite towny.
3. I got a bit arrogant.
4. I got a bit lynched.

Hoping that 1 and 2 happen here and 3 and 4 don't...

This is definitely the best setup to get a bit lynched.

[faust]

So here is what I think: Joseph is scum. The whole asking for win conditions stuff doesn't strike me as something Joseph would do usually, but it is a way for him to be active without being very useful and at the same time it is designed to suggest to us that he's oh so townie because he doesn't know scum's win condition.

Vote: Joseph