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Teaser
« on: September 21, 2018, 04:31:04 pm »
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Prepare to be teased.

Renaissance has:
- 25 kingdom cards, 25 sideways cards, 12 wooden cubes, 6 playmats, and 35 tokens
- three Treasures, two Attacks, two Duration cards, and one Reaction
- fifteen uses for tokens
- sixteen uses of "trash"
- a card with a word in quotation marks on it
- a card with only 3 words on it; a card with only 4 words on it
- three ways to play Actions in your Buy phase
- a way to take a turn after the game would otherwise be over
- a trasher you can't turn off
- something that cares about shuffling
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2018, 04:34:07 pm »
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Intriguing! I'm guessing the wooden cubes track Project progress, and the trasher you can't turn off is an Artifact. Actions in the Buy phase is probably Project/Artifact shenanigans.
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2018, 04:38:25 pm »
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We've never had any wood whatsoever in Dominion so far, right?
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2018, 04:40:57 pm »
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We've never had any wood whatsoever in Dominion so far, right?

RIP Woodcutter. (But also no, just metal, plastic, and cardboard.)
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2018, 04:46:23 pm »
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25 kingdom cards

Does that mean no Victory cards?

25 sideways cards

I'm betting for the return of Events, Landmarks, or States.

12 wooden cubes

For artefacts, I'm guessing.

6 playmats, and 35 tokens

Coffer mats and coin tokens?

- a card with only 3 words on it; a card with only 4 words on it

Probably something with projects and artefacts, like "Build a project" or "Take an Artefact token." Perhaps on a treasure, because aren't words?

three ways to play Actions in your Buy phase

Guessing these will be card-specific, like Action-Treasure or Action-Reaction cards. I highly doubt we're just getting an "play an action" on a Treasure or something. Seems like a prime target for rules hazards.
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2018, 04:47:08 pm »
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- something that cares about shuffling

A Stash-like thing, maybe? I'm thinking a Project (or Artifact) that says something like "When you discard ____, you may instead set it aside; put it anywhere in your deck the next time you shuffle."
« Last Edit: September 21, 2018, 04:48:47 pm by vishwathg »
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2018, 04:55:16 pm »
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25 kingdom cards

Does that mean no Victory cards?

By my count, yes. But a Project or Artifact might still give ways to score, like a Landmark, e.g. "When scoring, +1VP per Coin token in your Coffers."

6 playmats, and 35 tokens

Coffer mats and coin tokens?

And Action tokens?

- a card with only 3 words on it; a card with only 4 words on it

Probably something with projects and artefacts, like "Build a project" or "Take an Artefact token." Perhaps on a treasure, because aren't words?

Treasures usually say "When you play this", which will eat up those words. If Artifacts are sideways cards, then "Take an Artifact" could be an Action card.
« Last Edit: September 21, 2018, 07:11:11 pm by crlundy »
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2018, 06:18:00 pm »
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Don't forget the name of the card and its type. That leaves room for only 1 or 2 words in the card's actual effect. My guess for the 3-word card would be:

(cardname)

$1
+1 Coffers

Treasure

which would probably cost around $4. But it seems a little boring, not much you can do with 3 words.
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2018, 06:36:20 pm »
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We've never had any wood whatsoever in Dominion so far, right?

Technically, cardboard is made out of wood.
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2018, 07:22:43 pm »
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The 15 uses for tokens thing is really exciting; I was hoping for more stuff like Butcher and this sounds like it. I wonder if this counts their regular uses as well.

I'm guessing one of the ways to play action cards in your buy phase is an on-gain or on-buy effect.

With sixteen uses of "trash" wouldn't there be sixteen words in quotation marks?

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Re: Teaser
« Reply #10 on: September 21, 2018, 08:35:43 pm »
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We've never had any wood whatsoever in Dominion so far, right?

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Re: Teaser
« Reply #11 on: September 21, 2018, 09:21:37 pm »
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The trasher you can't turn off, it would be wild if it was trashing from the top of your deck instead of your hand. I wonder if it's an actual deck thinner and not in the vein of "Remodel Province into Province".
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #12 on: September 21, 2018, 09:50:31 pm »
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We could still have new victory cards, cards can have multiple types, we could have an action-attack-victory, or a reaction-victory
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #13 on: September 21, 2018, 10:27:44 pm »
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We could still have new victory cards, cards can have multiple types, we could have an action-attack-victory, or a reaction-victory

We're assuming 300 cards, 25*11 (including randomizers) plus 25 for the sideways cards makes 300. There can't be any Victory cards since those are 12 copies per pile in games with more than two players.
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #14 on: September 21, 2018, 10:47:59 pm »
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Cubes to track project progress makes sense.  There are probably 2 cubes per player because projects follow the same selection rules as landmarks/events, and there can be at most two projects in play at a time.

If there were an artifact that simply said, everyone must trash a card at the beginning of each turn, would that work?  Hmmm... no that would be devastating with Militia.

35 tokens seems like kind of a small number if some of those are coin tokens and some are action tokens.  I was thinking there could be a card that simply says +2 or +3 action tokens, but it seems like the action tokens would run out really quickly.
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2018, 05:21:50 am »
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Don't forget the name of the card and its type. That leaves room for only 1 or 2 words in the card's actual effect. My guess for the 3-word card would be:

(cardname)

$1
+1 Coffers

Treasure

which would probably cost around $4. But it seems a little boring, not much you can do with 3 words.
DXV doesn't so Silver+ for $4. Make it +2 Coffers at a price of $5.
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2018, 08:53:46 am »
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Don't forget the name of the card and its type. That leaves room for only 1 or 2 words in the card's actual effect. My guess for the 3-word card would be:

(cardname)

$1
+1 Coffers

Treasure

which would probably cost around $4. But it seems a little boring, not much you can do with 3 words.
DXV doesn't so Silver+ for $4. Make it +2 Coffers at a price of $5.

A treasure that gave +2 Coffers would look boring compared to Butcher.
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2018, 12:09:22 pm »
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I'm not sure Donald was including the name of the card and the type. Because then why not include the illustrator? And then you already have more than three words.

Edit: or where it says "Dominion" on the back.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2018, 12:10:55 pm by J Reggie »
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2018, 12:20:23 pm »
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- a trasher you can't turn off

Let me guess:
Pyre
Type: Project

Stage 1: $3
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Stage 2: $4
4 VP
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Stage 3: $5
4 VP
At the begin of each of your turns, trash a card from your discard pile. If you do: +1 Coffers.

- a card with only 3 words on it; a card with only 4 words on it

Wait, there was a card with only one word: Trash, but all other cards contained at least the four words "Illustration", "Rio", "Grande" and "Games" ... I cannot imagine what type of card it will be.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2018, 12:30:26 pm by King Leon »
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2018, 09:50:48 pm »
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There can't be any Victory cards since those are 12 copies per pile in games with more than two players.
Then again, Dame Josephine is a Victory card in a 10-card pile. Renaissance may throw similar curveballs; I hope it does!
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2018, 06:26:55 am »
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Don't forget the name of the card and its type. That leaves room for only 1 or 2 words in the card's actual effect. My guess for the 3-word card would be:

(cardname)

$1
+1 Coffers

Treasure

which would probably cost around $4. But it seems a little boring, not much you can do with 3 words.
DXV doesn't so Silver+ for $4. Make it +2 Coffers at a price of $5.

A treasure that gave +2 Coffers would look boring compared to Butcher.
Butcher is rarely used as a payload card so I fail to see the huge similarity. It's like with Festival vs. Conclave. These two cards are even more similar yet feel and play very differently.

I am sure though that any Treasure that yields Coin tokens has an extra twist.
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2018, 01:38:52 pm »
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As of the first day of previews, we have seen:

- 5/25 kingdom cards, 0/25 sideways cards, 0/12 wooden cubes, 0/6 playmats, and 0/35 tokens
- 0/3 Treasures, 0/2 Attacks, 0/2 Duration cards, and 0/1 Reaction
- 0/15 uses for tokens
- 2/16 uses of "trash"
- no card with a word in quotation marks on it
- no card with only 3 words on it; a card with only 4 words on it (Scholar)
- 0/3 ways to play Actions in your Buy phase
- no way to take a turn after the game would otherwise be over, unless you count returning Experiments? I'm sure that's not what it's supposed to be though.
- no trasher you can't turn off
- nothing that cares about shuffling

So not much yet, but it's still fun to do this. We'll probably see a lot more of these once the previews get into the on-theme cards.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2018, 01:51:21 pm by J Reggie »
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2018, 01:39:36 pm »
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Scholar is the card with 4 words.
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Re: Teaser
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2018, 01:50:42 pm »
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Scholar is the card with 4 words.

Oh cool. I will update accordingly. I guess I was right about only counting the card text.

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Re: Teaser
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2018, 03:40:48 pm »
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Scholar is the card with 4 words.

Hmm, disappointed that "+7" doesn't count as either 1 or 2 words. It means that we've had several cards with only 1-3 words on them before, which makes the whole prospect of having a card with only 3 words less exciting.
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