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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2011, 08:19:23 am »
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I like Stone Age very much. It includes a nice balance between luck and strategy. Looking forward to the expansion.
Stone Age has a very pretty board. :)

Also, it's very simple (every round you can choose from the same actions), but challenging enough. You also have to pay attention to your opponents. You can't let one opponent grab all of the cards for example.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2011, 08:27:16 am »
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I like Stone Age very much. It includes a nice balance between luck and strategy. Looking forward to the expansion.
I won't begrudge you liking Stone Age. But I will recommend Troyes for you a something I think is a much better dice-rolling worker placement game! Here's how I'd rank that genre:

1. Troyes (A)
2. Kingsburg, with at least the soldier token expansion (B-)
3. Stone Age (C+)
4. Alien Frontiers (C-)
5. Kingsburg without the soldier token expansion (D)
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2011, 03:46:08 pm »
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Hey rrenaud I think you would like 7 wonders, its a fun fast paced multi player game with little setup
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2011, 03:54:36 pm »
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Hey rrenaud I think you would like 7 wonders, its a fun fast paced multi player game with little setup
...with the replay value of tic-tac-toe :(

(To be fair I found it super fun for about 8-10 plays.)
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2011, 05:15:45 pm »
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Hey rrenaud I think you would like 7 wonders, its a fun fast paced multi player game with little setup
...with the replay value of tic-tac-toe :(

(To be fair I found it super fun for about 8-10 plays.)

hey i said it was a fun game, not a great game, ive only played with 5 people
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2011, 05:48:43 pm »
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Yeah my point is after those 8-10 plays it stopped being fun at all :P Once you figure it out it's about 95% determined by the initial shuffle plus the competence of your neighbors.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2011, 01:13:56 pm »
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I was introduced to Nefarious during Spiel in Essen. And So far I have not grown tired of it, and it doesn't seem to get very boring any time soon. I've mostly played two-player games, but I prefer playing three or more players.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2011, 01:38:34 pm »
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I saw the Nefarious boot at Essen, but €35 for some cards seemed a lot although I bet it's a great game.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2011, 02:00:13 pm »
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I bet neither I nor my girlfriend (the one who ended up buying it) would have bought it if we hadn't played it first.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #34 on: November 18, 2011, 01:42:59 am »
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i demo'd a dice/deck building game today called quarriors, pretty fun, don't like that its only a 4pl game  ;)
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #35 on: November 18, 2011, 06:54:55 am »
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Sentinels of the Multiverse is a co-operative game that's worth a few plays. Each player is a superhero with their own deck of cards that represent a specialist set of powers and gadgets and whatever else superheroes do . Each turn you play cards, use powers, draw cards. There are also villain turns where the villain plays the top card from his/her deck and environment turns where random events turn up. There is a fair bit of flavour in all the decks, there's something to think about with the card play and interactions, it's still quite simple (but needs house rules as a result), and it's a bit of fun.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #36 on: November 18, 2011, 05:05:36 pm »
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I really like a lot of the games mentioned in this post. Puerto Rico especially is exceptionally well balanced and really fun. I played it with a group of friends fairly obsessively before discovering Dominion.

I have to mention Galaxy Trucker, which is really fun, and a lot of the game play is based in real time. You build a space ship and then go on trucking missions. The game is fairly luck dependent, but it has some deep strategy and lots of puzzle solving so strong players usually end up ahead of their competitors. It takes under an hour to play and it's a really fresh board game idea. I can't recommend it enough.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #37 on: November 21, 2011, 12:19:01 am »
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Having played it at BGG.CON, I must say Eminent Domain is the first deckbuilding game that I think deserves mention in the same breath as Dominion*. I certainly won't say it's as good, but it's a very worthy game in its own right. It takes elements from Dominion, Race for the Galaxy, and Glory to Rome, and it synthesizes them in a rather clever way that makes for an excellent strategy game. As an added bonus, it has a really simple ruleset, with the only real learning complexity coming from having to read through the level 2 and 3 Tech cards. (The level 1 Techs are just improvements on the basic Role cards' action abilities.)

1) Each turn, you may play a card from your hand (Technology or Role card) as an action.
2) Then you must choose a Role card you will lead, taking from the supply and putting it in front of you. You may boost it with similar cards to increase its effect. When you're done, you (usually) discard all the cards, including the new Role card that it added to your deck.  Other players in turn may follow on the role you've led, playing similar cards to execute a weaker version of the role.
3) Then you may discard any remaining hand cards you like, keeping others in hand, and draw up to your hand limit (5 by default).

Roles do things like discovering new planets and adding them to your tableau ("Empire"), amassing ships or colonies to conquer or settle the planets you've discovered, researching new technologies (cards added to your deck or your Empire), and producing & trading goods on your planets. VPs derive from settled/conquered planets, advanced techs acquired, and chips received for traded goods. Many planets give various bonuses like increasing your hand size or automatically boosting the effect of one of the Roles.

In short: You build a tableau which is worth points and can be used to churn more points by goods production and trading (like Race for the Galaxy) via a Role selection and Lead/Follow mechanic (like Glory to Rome) using a hand drawn from a deck you build during the game (like Dominion). The novel mechanic is that choosing a Role adds a copy of that Role card to your deck (whereas researching techs is more akin to Dominion's Buy mechanic). Technologies encourage clever card combinations like you might see in other card-based games. The really unique strategic element I've noticed so far is that Eminent Domain can reward you for building one engine, then tearing it down mid-game and building a new one. As a simple example, in one game I churned a full-bore Colonization engine until I had something like 7 Planets settled, then trashed all my Colonization role cards while rebuilding my deck into a Produce/Trade engine that I churned for VP chips until the end of the game. Alternately, I've seen very successful single-engine strategies, like one where somebody got a crazy combination of techs that allowed them to eventually conquer some 15+ Planets by the end of the game, ignoring Production entirely.


The only thing that worries me after about 6 plays is that it won't seem quite as fresh after 60. Every game uses the same Technology and Role cards, with the only thing really cajoling you to pursue different strategies from game to game being your random draws of Planet cards. OTOH, I suspect once a group of players becomes really experienced with it, there may not be any extra turns to dally around forcing a Tech strategy you like in spite of Planet draws that are pushing you toward doing something else. And of course, in 3p and 4p games (which is where it really shines to begin with), the Lead/Follow mechanic means it's critical to adapt to what your opponents are doing.


*Noting that there are some other superb card-based strategy games like Race that are not deckbuilding games.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #38 on: November 21, 2011, 09:12:45 am »
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Imperial.

It isn't a card game, but it's a really good investment game cloaked as a war game with immense re-playability.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2011, 10:51:37 am »
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I'm surprised no one's mentioned Sirlin's copycat game, Puzzle Strike.  It's a "fixed" version of Dominion. (" ")

Guess it goes to show what a failure it is
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #40 on: November 21, 2011, 11:05:01 am »
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I played Ascension a couple weeks ago and was dazzled by how it somehow managed to combine every aspect I hate about Dominion into a standalone game.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #41 on: November 21, 2011, 01:18:09 pm »
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Imperial.

It isn't a card game, but it's a really good investment game cloaked as a war game with immense re-playability.
If you like Imperial... come to the dark side of 18xx 8)

Or on an opposite note, Hamburgum is another excellent Rondel game.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #42 on: November 21, 2011, 04:32:01 pm »
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I played Ascension a couple weeks ago and was dazzled by how it somehow managed to combine every aspect I hate about Dominion into a standalone game.

If that's a comparison, it goes too far..
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #43 on: November 21, 2011, 04:45:11 pm »
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I'm surprised no one's mentioned Sirlin's copycat game, Puzzle Strike.  It's a "fixed" version of Dominion. (" ")

Guess it goes to show what a failure it is
There's nothing "fixed" about puzzle strike.  Really annoying is such an annoying card that we destroyed the chips out of hatred after our first game.  This was using a recommended set!  That said, the game's marginally fun, although you're really limited to playing big money because you start with 3 actions in your deck and the action chips are super weak in general.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #44 on: November 21, 2011, 04:53:00 pm »
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Actually the dominating strategy is Combine in the base set.  Really Annoying is removed from the recommended set in the updated rules, but you have to download those, so >_>
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #45 on: December 02, 2011, 05:35:30 pm »
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The game i like most (together with Dominion) is Agricola. Anyone here playing at play-agricola.com?

I also like Puerto Rico, Battlestar Galactica and lots of other games, but none as much as my 2 favourites.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2011, 06:00:43 pm »
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The game i like most (together with Dominion) is Agricola. Anyone here playing at play-agricola.com?
No, but I am playing at Boite a Jeux.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2011, 09:22:43 am »
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The game i like most (together with Dominion) is Agricola. Anyone here playing at play-agricola.com?

I have it bookmarked, and I'll get there eventually; definitely a top 5 game for me. Lately my non-Dominion obsession has been Brass (on brass.orderofthehammer.com).
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #48 on: December 06, 2011, 12:53:36 pm »
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The game i like most (together with Dominion) is Agricola. Anyone here playing at play-agricola.com?

I have it bookmarked, and I'll get there eventually; definitely a top 5 game for me. Lately my non-Dominion obsession has been Brass (on brass.orderofthehammer.com).
In this post we find mentioned my all-time top 3 board games ;D

There was about a month some time ago that I was continuously in 10 concurrent games on orderofthehammer. I had to limit it to 10 at a time since otherwise I would spend like 3+ hours a day at work contemplating Brass moves.
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Re: What other games are as good as Dominion?
« Reply #49 on: December 06, 2011, 05:58:34 pm »
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Yeah, I've only just started playing regularly on there, and I'm limiting myself to two or three concurrent right now... haven't even cracked 10 total yet.
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